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December 5th, 2011 at 8:24 PM | Not as mad as he is about teenage pregnancies (Score:5 Normal)
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Buc_So_Nasty24 Cullen Christian 
 
RT @KevinHartJokes RT @TheLindaMiIani You're 13 you should be picking flowers not baby names...Put yo coochie on silent
46 minutes ago
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December 5th, 2011 at 11:41 PM | I mean, I completely agree (Score:2)
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I mean, I completely agree with the message he's telling this girl here assuming she is, in fact, 13.

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December 6th, 2011 at 4:46 PM | DeAver? (Score:1)
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Is DeAver, who Cullen is tweeting with DJ Williamson?

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:44 PM | I mean, Casteel's going to be (Score:5 Normal)
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I mean, Casteel's going to be coaching in a BCS bowl, maybe he'll pick up Casteel later. Of course, that's what we said last time.

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:46 PM | Also, two of the Arizona QBs (Score:5 Normal)
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Also, two of the Arizona QBs transferred this week.

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:51 PM | This (Score:5 Normal)
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is ominous

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:30 PM | As (Score:5 Normal)
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history repeats itself...

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December 5th, 2011 at 8:13 PM | *GASP* THE CUPBOARD IS (Score:5 Normal)
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*GASP* THE CUPBOARD IS BARE!!!

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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December 6th, 2011 at 8:59 AM | "Cupborad is bare!!! (Score:2 Normal)
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Lloyd Carr's fault! 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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December 6th, 2011 at 10:16 AM | Well, it is Arizona (Score:1)
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Well, it is Arizona

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December 5th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | qbs? (Score:5 Normal)
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  I'm sure he'll be able to coach up a couple of freshman without a problem.  Anyway, he's got his defensive masterminds to help him if the offense stumbles a bit.

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:48 PM | Best of luck (Score:1 Normal)
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Hopefully we will see you in the Rose Bowl a ways down the road.

Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.

     -Johnny Danbury (umichedme.blogspot.com)

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:48 PM | From yesterday with 103 comments: (Score:4 Normal)
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/richrod-getting-band-back-together-tucson

"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:53 PM | I posted this because it was (Score:5 Normal)
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I posted this because it was officially announced and not just a rumor anymore.

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December 6th, 2011 at 9:03 AM | AZ fans - DON'T watch clips (Score:1)
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of our secondary play from 2008 - 2010...

Your future on D is DOOM.

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:50 PM | I can't help but feel like (Score:5 Normal)
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I can't help but feel like there's a metaphor of some kind to be found in all this.

"Are you coming to bed?"
"I can't."
"Why not?"
"Someone is WRONG on the internet."
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December 5th, 2011 at 6:50 PM | (Score:2 Normal)
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My Arizona fan friend seems to be in a haze about this hire and seems to think coaches can change at every stop. I've been trying to tell him that they aren't going to beat good passing teams(or bad for that matter) with Gibson coaching dbs, it's not phasing him at all. For me the worst place RR could have landed was Arizona, I received 25 text messages in 2 or 3 hours from him the night RR was hired. 2012 season can't get here fast enough! His eyes will be opened on September 8th when Oklahoma State comes to town

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:54 PM | more likely Sept 1 (Score:5 Normal)
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when Toledo comes to town.

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December 5th, 2011 at 8:32 PM | cruel (Score:2 Normal)
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but the truth.

 
 

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December 5th, 2011 at 9:35 PM | That was a pick 6 that cost (Score:1 Normal)
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That was a pick 6 that cost us the game, not a bad D. Point taken but let's be accurate when we bad mouth people.

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December 5th, 2011 at 10:50 PM | I don't think Arizona is (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think Arizona is going to have the caliber of defensive players that we did in 2008.

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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December 5th, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Come On (Score:2 Normal)
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You do realize Gibson coached at WVU when they had one of the best defenses in the country?

People making a big deal about position coaches is over the top.  You have no idea if he's any good or not.  Considering how bad RR wants to win you really think he would willfully hire a guy he thinks sucks?

 

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December 5th, 2011 at 11:42 PM | (Score:2 Funny)
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He hired him because he is a good recruiter, he just gets stuck with him as a db coach

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December 6th, 2011 at 12:03 PM | Gibson a good recruiter? (Score:5 Normal)
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Who was he responsible for at Michigan? This is an honest question - I don't know. But if he was the guy scouting DBs, he's fucking abysmal.

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December 6th, 2011 at 12:58 PM | Isaiah Bell, Denard Robinson, (Score:3 Normal)
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Isaiah Bell, Denard Robinson, Fitzgerald Toussaint, Quinton Washington, Adrian Witty, Cullen Christian, Conelius Jones, Antonio Kinard, Jordan Paskorz, Ray Vinopal, Ken Wilkins, DJ Williamson,

Robinson and Toussaint have been good.  Washington has been okay.  Everyone else has been a bust or hasn't played yet.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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December 6th, 2011 at 2:19 PM | Thanks for the info (Score:3 Normal)
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I might quibble with Washington being 'okay' - we'll see if he can do anything next year after the position switch.  It always seemed to me like he would have been a stud on the O-line in a man-blocking scheme, but considering our depth chart next year, I'm glad they made the switch. 

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December 5th, 2011 at 11:53 PM | He has called Tony Gibson his (Score:1)
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He has called Tony Gibson his best friend. I'm pretty sure he'll hire him no matter how shitty his coaching is.

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December 6th, 2011 at 2:21 AM | Missed the point (Score:5 Normal)
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"Considering how bad RR wants to win you really think he would willfully hire a guy he thinks sucks?"

Who cares what he thinks about Gibson's ability? The important thing is Gibson's actual ability, or lack thereof.

Also, you realize that Rich badly wanted to win at Michigan, and he hired GERG?

"In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity." 

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December 5th, 2011 at 6:53 PM | Arizona Defensive Backfield (Score:2 Normal)
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Air it is then. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

Follow the random tweets of a Michigan alum - http://twitter.com/#!/LorneEC3

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:00 PM | It's a comfort zone thing, (Score:5 Normal)
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It's a comfort zone thing, these are RR's guys and I can't say I blame them for following him to a new opportunity rather than work for a guy who had to throw together a staff at the last second.

Who knows?  Under a DC who knows how the 3-3-5 works, maybe Gibson actually knows what he's talking about.

That said maybe Candice Swanpoel shows up at my door tonight with a note from my wife saying "have a good time"  All things are possible.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:06 PM | For me it boils down to this (Score:5 Normal)
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if RR can only be succesful with 'his' guys or 'these' guys then he just isn't a very good football coach.

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:33 PM | Who doesn't want to stick (Score:4 Normal)
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Who doesn't want to stick with their guys? Look at who Hoke took with him to Michigan from SDSU, pretty much everyone except for Long(<Mattison anyway), and he wasn't going to use the 3-3-5 up here anyway.

Bottom line, I think if Rich is going to succeed, why mess with what worked at WVU? Especially if he gets Casteel, I see little reason to expect they won't replicate a lot of the success they had in Morgantown. They'll likely be able to recruit better than they did at WVU too, being that close to Texas and Cali should work well. Obviously, the UM brand is stronger than Arizona's but I don't think Rich needs top 10 talent to win it all.

Plus, I'm sure they're all hungry to prove themselves. I expect Arizona to be quite good. They'll have a winning season next year, that RS SR QB will be such an asset breaking everyone into the system.

Leaders and Best

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:38 PM | The problem is that Gibson (Score:3 Normal)
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The problem is that Gibson sucks.  It's fine to stick with your guys if they can do the job.  The evidence suggests that Gibson can't. 

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December 6th, 2011 at 1:56 AM | Evidence on Gibson: some good, some bad (Score:1)
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- First, he stunk at Michigan.  I'm not going to even bother looking up the stats.

- At WVU, here's the passing defense rank of WVU for the last 4 years he was there.  He had been coaching there a couple years by 2004, so he should have had "his guys" in place, so no excuses.  Big East isn't the greatest conference (obviously) but did have some good passing attacks (e.g., Louisville under Petrino, Pitt with L Fitzgerald). Last, I realize the DB coach is not the only one in control of passing D (e.g., a great DL help passing defense greatly), but it's a good proxy:

2004: WVU is 32nd
2005: WVU is 34th
2006: WVU is 109th
2007: WVU is 14th

In short, WVU was good for two years, terrible for one, and very good for another.

I have no idea why he sucked bad here, but I'm guessing Rich Rod is going on his longer time of work at WVU under Casteel.  If Gibson can put up similar to most of those years above in Arizona, they'll be fine.
 

It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, is just progress.

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December 6th, 2011 at 9:07 AM | "They'll have a winning season next year" (Score:3 Normal)
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NO, they won't.  "Hungry" isn't enough to get the job done by itself.  Their system takes the right players and a lot of time to perfect.  2013 perhaps. 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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December 5th, 2011 at 8:53 PM | Thanks for that... (Score:3 Normal)
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I Google image searched Candice Swanpoel....  best decision of the day.

 

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:07 PM | I mean at least they didn't (Score:5 Normal)
FSPP-14
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Joined: 06/05/2011
MGoPoints: 263

I mean at least they didn't just hire "one of the worst position coaches in the country". Wait...

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:10 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
Joined: 12/29/2010
MGoPoints: 4899

Just get Casteel, and he'll be fine.

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:11 PM | Looks like two of the QBs are planning on leaving (Score:4 Normal)
BlueinTC
Joined: 07/26/2011
MGoPoints: 207

Arizona.  Garman and Savage are transferring.

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December 5th, 2011 at 9:18 PM | What's it going to be this time? (Score:5 Normal)
Yeoman
Joined: 06/08/2011
MGoPoints: 2247

Mike Stoops told them to leave?

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December 6th, 2011 at 2:04 AM | Eh...so what? Those guys are movers. (Score:2 Normal)
robpollard
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- I just looked up that Garman kid.  He was declared ineligible twice in HS, once in OK and once in TX b/c his family moved him 4 times in 4 years.  This now makes it 5 schools in 5 years.

- Savage said he transferred for his family.  I have no idea if that's true, but he was already a transfer from Rutgers, so he seems to be on the move a lot as well.

When new coaches get hired, people transfer.  Happens everywhere, including to Hoke this year (we lost something like 8 players?).  The imporant thing for Rich Rod is unlike 2008, he already has a QB with experience who fits his offense in place, Matt Scott.  RR will have to get freshman QBs for depth, but that's fine - he can point to Denard/Forcier in 2009 and get himself some talented newbie.

It only ends once. Anything that happens before that, is just progress.

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:17 PM | Next up Barwis....  Who's (Score:4 Normal)
jsquigg
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Next up Barwis....  Who's going to be the "Rent-A-DC?"

Hail to the Victors!

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:22 PM | Rich Rodriguez (Score:5 Normal)
somewittyname
Joined: 05/15/2009
MGoPoints: 1029

Doesn't get it.

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:26 PM | Rich also uncorked this (Score:5 Normal)
chitownblue2
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Rich also uncorked this eye-roller:

""This is a good base for me to come into. There’s certainly a lot more experience than when I went to Michigan. I had no quarterbacks. I started with a quarterback who was a walk-on. I didn’t have a quarterback.""

Sorry you didn't read a depth chart, Rich.

It's time this guy shuts the fuck up.

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:34 PM | Quarterbacks generally don't (Score:5 Normal)
bluetell
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Quarterbacks generally don't know how to play Safety either

/solvingthewrongproblems

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:41 PM | I started with a quarterback (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28970

I started with a quarterback who was a walk-on.

While this is technically true, RR left out that it was his choice to do so. Sheridan started the Utah game even though a scholarship QB (Threet) was available.

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December 5th, 2011 at 10:33 PM | Wonder how Bacon would make excuses (Score:5 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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For this one. What page in Bo's Lasting Lessons was "blame your players and throw them under the bus to defend yourself"?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 6th, 2011 at 12:51 AM | Everyone has already decided (Score:-1 Overrated)
BigBlue02
Joined: 06/29/2009
MGoPoints: 1853

Everyone has already decided he wasn't a Michigan man, so what does does he care? Can you blame him for defending himself.....no one else did when he was here.

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December 6th, 2011 at 1:12 AM | He'll always have you (Score:5 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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But I wasn't aware it was his players throwing him under the bus all that time, rather than him doing it to them. What does it matter? It reveals a lot about the player-coach relationship, and apparently defending himself is more important than doing that for his players.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 5th, 2011 at 7:49 PM | It is beginnig to feel like (Score:5 Normal)
The FannMan
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Joined: 11/25/2008
MGoPoints: 1618

It is beginnig to feel like history is repeating. 

I mean things do not seem to be going well there.  Arizona QBs transfering.  Kids (or at least Christian) at Pitt upset that he hired their coaching staff.  Rich talknig too much about the place he left.  I can't imagine that Arizona enjoys him talking about Michigan any more that we wanted to hear about WVU in 2008.  

Don't get me wrong.  I would like to see him be successful.  I also don't want to start the whole "what went wrong" conversation.  But, I think there is a concensus that he didn't handle the transition here that well.  I am worried that he is doing the same thing at Zona.  He needs to forget about us and worry about Arizona.

"Nobody cares what you think!"

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