This should end well.
Rodriguez on Denard
Please God No
seriously, instead of bitching off the bat OMG RICHROD FUUUUUU, read the article, and try to gain some appreciation for how far this kid has come, and what a great human being he is.
and it does seem quite fair and journalistically sound to interview the coach who recruitied the kid, as he'll have perspectives that the rest of us may not know about. there was nothing even remotely controversial or flameworthy in the article, just mounds and mounds of denard-y goodness.
I like to dunk my Denard-y goodness in a glass of milk.
Yes, because someone saying "this should end well" clearly means they have no appreciation for how far Denard has come and what a nice guy he is. Moron.
that his comment was not in response to yours?
Except to see his reaction was half the reason I clicked on this post!
While I agree that Section 1 can be very annoying sometimes, he is right that whenever a RR flamewar starts, it's because one of the anti-RR people starts it
surrounding M football, it's really easy to forget how human these relationships are. I'm sure any one of us would love to hear those words from a college mentor, or be able to say them about a protégé. Feel good story all around.
Angelique had to get a quote about DR somewhere, and Brady didn't seem to want to give it to her.
Why couldn't he just give the guy some credit. His refusal in the press conferences bordered on rude.
You missed his point. For Hoke, Senior Day is about ALL the seniors, not just Denard.
I suspect that Shoelace is just fine with it. I'm sure he knows the staff appreciates and cares for him. And frankly, that is all that matters.
He's a coach. When you're a coach you don't want your guys to get too high or too low. If he had a guy like John Navarre as his QB, who was constantly criticized, he'd be praising him all the time. With Denard, who has gotten mostly favorable press, he tries to downplay it. After Denard's final game, I guarantee Hoke will gush over him.
Also, it's a team game. It's not all about one guy. All of our senior class stuck it out through some difficult times. They all should be celebrated.
I don't have a problem with the way Hoke handled that question. Senior Day is for ALL of the seniors, from the starting QB all the way down to the walk-ons. It wouldn't be appropriate to elevate any one of them above the others. Also, the question was worded so as to imply that the program is Denard and Denard is the program. I'm glad Hoke didn't take the bait.
I usually don't like RR articles on here, but this is an exception. Thanks for posting.
I usually don't either given the tone it usually gets and the fact that everyone has moved including Rodriguez but I thought this was a nice piece.
is Rich Rod? Oohhh, right....... (smirky Bob Sugar laugh here)
"I know he's been a little banged up now, but his career has been phenomenal, and I'm really, really proud of him." - Rich Rodriguez, in the story
These are the sorts of things you want to hear from the coach who recruited you regardless really, that they recognize your contributions and are proud. He'll definitely hear this from Hoke, but it is very appropriate and great to hear it from the coach responsible for Denard's presence in Ann Arbor. This is a nice piece by Chengelis and thanks for posting it.
I thought it was good to hear as well. Personally, I think its great to see Rodriguez supporting Denard and can only help him as he moves to the next level. Whatever a Michigan fans opinion is about Rodriguez, he is still a well respected and especially in the coaching fraternity. So who knows, maybe those words from Rodriguez could give a team the green light to pick Denard a little sooner come draft day.
For all his accolades, putting players in the NFL is not one of RR's strong suits. He is well respected in the college coaching ranks but I think the NFL probably tends to look upon players from his and similar systems with caution. Mattison will have more players going to the next level from his defenses alone than RR would have from an entire team. I was nice to hear(read)the positive things he has to say about Denard. The kid deserves every word of it.
Angelique is one of the very few legitimately good sportswriters out there.
Really? I mean, she's fine, I guess. But she's really just a mouthpiece for the team/program. It's not as if she does much investigate reporting, or comes up with much fresh material, or dares criticizes the program. She's pretty much just a punch-in, punch-out beat reporter. Sometimes, I think, people mistake being agreeble with being good.
Well, we have the always disagreeable Drew Sharp, the "investigative journalism" of Snyder, and the refreshingly straight reporting of Angelique.
Let's face it, unless you're into stretching violations, there hasn't been much to investigate at UM. And Hoke isn't exactly a source of big stories. So...
I'm pretty happy with Angelique's more traditional sports reporting approach.
They ran a series riddled with errors and ignored requests that the paper run corrections. Even the report the NCAA produced noted the newspaper was in error.
Drew Sharp hates the state of Michigan and everything about it.
I would ask, why hasn't Drew Sharp or any of the others written about the rampant oversigning and fraudulent medical exemptions handed out by the SEC over the past 10 years? Or ripped the SEC coaches for voting unanimously against ending oversigning, while the university presidents in the league voted unanimously to stop it? Why has he not written that Urban Meyer's departure from Florida came soon after the university hired a new president who said he did not like oversigning and would no longer allow it?
No, instead we see him constantly rip the Big Ten even as he praises the number of consecutive years the SEC has won BCS titles, with no discussion that the run by the league started with Nick Saban's arrival at LSU, where he commenced to blow open loopholes in NCAA rules, to the point that even the most shameless conference in the history of college athletics finally had to do something about it.
I'd rather have a journalist who investigates legitimate stories worthy of investigations than to criticize the Detroit News for not making the same mistake the Freep did -- launch a U-M investigation without really even understanding the concept of countable hours, spend reams of time and ink on a series of stories that essentially detailed nothing more than a paperwork violation by the coaching staff, and then not have the decency to correct the errors in their report.
FWIW, Rich Rod got us Denard. I can respect that, along with many of his opinions and perspectives of college football, and would thank him for it.
I have to say, it's nice that he continues to accept interview requests from Michigan-based media outlets. If I were him, I would never want to talk to another Michigan reporter or talkjock ever again after what he went through while he was here.
well i doubt rosenberg and snyder get xmas cards from rr, but angelique was always quite fair back in the day. she really is the best print journalist currently covering michigan.
I could see LSUFreek making a video of Rodriguez putting a bag of flaming dog poo on Rosenbergs porch. Ha ha!
Thanks for these great players you signed and Coach Hoke & staff developed.
I don't know what I'm gonna feel like when Denard plays his last game. Maybe like I did with Hunwick. Really sad to see him leave but will love to tell his story many years from now to my grandkids.
You put Denard and Hunwick on the same level?
Wow... thats... like, wow.
in terms of what they meant to their teams? in terms of their personal character? in terms of the way they've represented the university? yeah, i can definitely see the comparison.
though kovacs might be a better one, cuz of undersized walk on blah blah while still being just as strong of a leader, student, and citizen.
look beyond the stats.
For people who follow hockey, that seems like a reasonable comparison. The disparity in name recognition between Denard and Hunwick (which due mostly to the fact that hockey doesn't have the same following as football or basketball) has nothing to do with how football and hockey fans view Denard and Hunwick, respectively.
But also, Hunwick's character, importance to hise team's success, and rise to prominence is right up there with Denard.
The Kovacks comment below
there's that annoying cliche again. I hear that shit constantly in some form or another.
Can we switch it up?
And if you're saying Hunwick is nowhere near to his team what Denard is to his, your lack of an original vocabulary only adds to the argument that you are ignorant. I would assume you didn't see Hunwick in the Frozen Four a couple years back, where he stood on his head to beat a NoDak team that had nearly dominated us in every way except goaltending. He got us into the title game.
If you're "wow... really"ing for the opposite reason, I still think you are ignorant. Both guys have an argument for being the franchise player so-to-speak.
I felt really sad when Hunwick played his last game.
I'll feel sad when Denard plays his last game.
They both have great stories.
There's the comparison.
I'm worried that we may have already seen Denard play his last game, which if true, would be a shame. Hoping he's good to go this Saturday and tears up Iowa.
If he's ok/healthy enough to play, do you hold him out for Ohio next week? We should be Iowa either way, and one shot to that elbow the wrong way he'd surely miss the game a week later which should be a tougher one for us w/o the threat of his legs on the field?
Not sure what I'd do as a coach, I suppose I'd ask Denard what he wants to do...
This was a pretty good article. As fans we often forget the human element that every athlete has with their coach. Whether you agree with Rodriguez or not, he is probably one of the most influential people Denard has had in his life. To see that Rodriguez still holds Denard in such high regard is nice.
Good to see a former coach praise DR's character as much as his f-ball skills. A whole article without direct reference to his speed is hard to fathom, but then so is the whole DR body of work.
Our D went to shit under his watch, but he gave it his all to make this work. I still like the guy, and some of our best players come from his regime.
I wish him the best. I can't help but root for Arizona in those Saturday night shootouts.
You said it perfectly!
I'd hope most of our best players come from his regime , considering Hokes first full class are true freshman and Carrs last partial class just graduated.
While no one can ever replace Denard, I do hope that Rich gets a chance to coach another great talent at quarterback, and see them through to their senior year. It's gotta be hard to have a special relationship with a person like Denard and have things get cut short. I still remember Rich and Denard hugging before their last game together in Jacksonville. As posted earlier by others, let's remember that these are real and strong relationships between people, not simply coaches and their players.
The last time Rich had a QB he recruited who played for 4 years, he broke NCAA records and became arguably the best spread QB in college football history and the only QB to ever start and win 4 bowl games.
I think he'll have another. The guy can find/coach spread QBs.
Give RR some credit for being classy here. This isn't article about Michigan or his thoughts on the program, but its about his thoughts on a charismatic young man and terrifc athlete we have all had the pleasure watching over the last couple years. There probably is great respect both ways.
All I can say: thank goodness Rich found the kid that would become one of my favorite Michigan players ever.
RR finding Denard is exactly half of the equation. The other half: Thank God Denard stayed! Denard has become one of my all-time favorite Michigan players, too!
Who could ever forget the first time Denard touched the football in his career and how it became representative of the excitement he brought to the game?
Thank you Denard. Go Blue!
Everytime someone complains about Denards passing I think to myself, what if Denard was in his 4th consecutive year with the same coach and coordinator AND running a system he was built to run. Most often I feel Denard would have been in the heisman race each year. Though injury is another issue.
the biggest thing for me is just that he wasn't recruited as Tom Brady 2.0 by anyone. In RR's mind (from what I know of his system) he was recruited to scare defenses with his running enough to open up wide open passes, which were the passes he was expected to hit. When called on to do this, he's done a pretty good job.
It worked too. Remember that play they ran when he took three steps forward and cut back to always find a wide open slot fifteen yards up field? The nine overtime Illinois game began with a Denard to Tree TD using that baby.
I will always have a good word to say for Rich Rodriguez for bringing Denard Robinson to my alma mater.
Charles Woodson was a freshman the year I graduated.
Special players are special.
I'm an old-school Wolverine (class of '91). Denard Robinson is top three Michigan men. I will weep on Saturday.
would be more like 1891. :)
Like many others on this board, I too will have tears in my eyes when Denard sets foot The Big House on Saturday. I love every single player to wear the Winged Helmet, but Denard was just different. He was the Brightest light in the world, during the darkest days of our program. He's never done a thing but represent the University of Michigan with class. I love this kid with my whole heart and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Grown men expressing love to DR is OK in this context. Man, he's been a great competitor on the field and ambassador off it. He's like Jonathan Seagull soaring above some horrible defenses and the whole RR turmoil.
Just seeing him in the stands at the Clev State game gave me a burst of energy. The dude is awesome.
"I only talk about players who play for Arizona"
But seriously, Denard is probably my favorite Michigan athlete of all time now. Watching him party as part of the Maize Rage put him over the top. He's the kind of on-the-field athlete that comes around only once a generation. On top of that, he's one of the best ambassadors for the university that we have ever had. I wish to God that he could have gotten that rushing record to cement his legacy. He is the Michigan Wolverine version of Barry Sanders -- an incredible player who succeeded under circumstances both good and bad -- but mostly bad. And also a guy who, unfortunately, will always have his detractors because he never won a title and because he had some bad games against good teams. Someday, I expect us to have another dominant shutdown corner like Charles Woodson or a spectacular returner/WR like Desmond Howard or Anthony Carter, but we have seen the only Denard Robinson. I hope that the speculation that Denard isn't healthy enough to play this Saturday is wrong. I want to see him get one more game in the Big House. He deserves it.
So all around good that he wins the Heisman as primarily a defensive player, against the toughest competition, while leading us to a National Championship, you could be waiting a long time.
... again ever either. I've been watching football for thirty+ years and never seen anything like him. He was a 5'9" WR (and I'm pretty sure I don't believe the 5'11" or taller numbers occasionally mentioned - I've stood next to him with my 5'9" dad) who dominated college and was good enough to play in the NFL at WR for 11 years (9 full seasons).
I'm not sure that's ever going to happen again, much less at Michigan. Some players are sui generis - Anthony Carter was one, and Denard Robinson is likely another.
I liked Rodriguez before he came here and still do. I enjoyed watching them beat USC this year.
I am grateful that he had the vision, and confidence, to bring one of the classiest, most electrifying football players ever to Michigan.
For all that might have gone wrong with Rich Rodriguez's tenure at Michigan, he got it right by recruiting and convincing Denard Robinson to become a Michigan Man. Another thing that he got very right was his (and Mike Barwis's) devotion to the Mealers after the tragedy that changed the Mealer family on Christmas Eve in 2007.
Many members of Team 133 may have no relationship with Brock Mealer, but the seniors should know him. That day in September 2010 when Brock, Elliott and their mother and brother led Team 131 onto the field – and all the YouTube clips showing Brock's subsequent progress – are great examples of how to make us smile and cheer threw all the tears.
On Saturday afternoon when people at Michigan Stadium rise to "Cheer The Beard" to honor Elliott and the beard he has kept since Team 133's pre-season Navy Seal training in California, it also might be nice if they have a chance to give Brock another ovation.
...and lots of it. Everytime I watch that video. Onions.
Rodriguez Lovers: What a show of class by Coach Rod! Imagine how many more yards Denard would have if RichRod was still the coach! Fire Borges!
Rodriguez Haters (skimmed article or didn't read it): DickRod has such an ego. Tries to take credit for Denard and Michigan winning the last few years. If he was still coach Denard would be hurt worse and Michigan would be an even worse embarrassment! Thank God coach Brady Hoke pulled Michigan away from nancy ball and instilled TOUGHNESS and GRIT into these players. Hopefully DickRod just goes away.
Everyone else: Nothing to see here.
I mean he oops dropped the ball, this sucks, oh no wait he runs for a touch down. I wonder wheather he is a super hero or the guy that drops the ball. Now that I have seen him for four years, I still don't know if I am watching a great player making plays or someone incompetent that is so talented it still works out.