Can one player completly change the dynamic of a team? Of course.
Most recent example was Dennis Dixon of Oregon,not a great team,
proven by the fact that when Dixon tore his ACL they could not win,but with him in,they were i belive the best team in the nation that year.From reports coming out of spring ball,Robinson could be ready to turn the college football world on its ear.Any QB who has made big strides in throwing accuracy and then can pull the ball down and turn into Usain Bolt will make life hell for any team.
Robinson next Vick-Mcnabb-Young
Can one player completly change the dynamic of a team? Of course.
you let the coaches know. They need your help evaluating the players.
Let the coaches get off their asses (or stay on them) and get the info by coming to mgoblog. We only weaken them by contacting them directly with our insights - it makes them lazy and dependent.
It's all about Denard?
I'll +1 you for mentioning Dixon. He single-handedly shredded our defense with his Statue of Liberty play followed by the Fake Statue of Liberty. Still gives me nightmares.
That guy took Oregon on his back and was heading to a NC, until he got hurt at which point they fell apart. If that doesn't prove his Heisman worthiness then I'm not sure what does.
with and without Dixon should have made the Heisman a landslide for him. That more has not been made about this bothers me, and I'm glad you're all over it too.
that decision has been made. Moving on!
I can see why you bring him into the conversation ... but Vick hasn't really accomplished that much in his football career (no offense to him). He's certainly not the "game changer" you seem to imply.
Manning and Brady are bigger "game changers" than Vick, but I suspect I can see why you didn't mention them.
(Sorry Dark Blue, that wasn't directed at you specifically)
"We have never seen nothing like him."
As an individual who has been using the English language for 23 years, I say no, it does not say nothing.
Is the "Title game" like a national championship or something? Apparently the second half of that game they figured out how to contain him since FSU won an all. Vick's an amazing athlete (pre jail period) but never been a great QB imhe.
Are you always this bad at basic things? Like "English" and "Reason"?
I'm not denying that he's explosive athlete - he obviously is.
Lets compare Vick's 2nd (and last) college season to Tate Forcier's first season:
Passing: 9 TDs, 7 INT, 1439 Yards
Rushing: 9 TDs, 636 Yards
Total: 18 TDs,2075 Yards
Passing: 13 TDs, 10 INT 2050 Yards
Rushing: 3 TDs, 240 yards
Total: 2290 Yards, 16 TDs
So yeah, I don't think Vick stands out particularly. Plenty of QBs put together better stats than his.
Even my dog knows the answer to that one...
I'm not gonna spend the afternoon bashing Vick. It's just my opinion that people are more in awe of him because of his natural ability.
What's your opinion of Greg McElroy? He got a good end result, but you probably not in awe of him because he doesn't run around and make exciting plays.
I think Bobby referred to Vick as that "Dad-Gum" guy, in a voice that resembles Foghorn Leghorn:
But like I said in my post above, plenty of QBs put together stats like his every year.
Point taken though, I wouldn't mind being in the title game. You're right about that part.
I heard his birth name wasn't Denard Robinson, but actually Vince McVick.
I like Vince VickNabb better, then you get something substantiative from McNabb's name, and it still sounds like McNabb. Just throwing that one out there. 'Mc' just doesn't give him much standing in the name.
Pfff it's Vince McDixick.
You're only setting yourself up for dissapointment.
Since when did Vick accurately throw anything?
with that dog.
"You must have suspected I would know of the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me."
-1 for not recognizing a quote from one of the greatest movies ever.
Some day, he's going to have the option of engaging in a land war in Asia, or of going against a Sicilian when death is on the line. And he will be woefully underprepared.
Indeed. May God have mercy on his soul.
Albeit a little strangely.
"You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work."
If Denard becomes the next Dennis Dixon I won't complain.
But I'd settle for all the QBs just having solid improvement.
Yes - one player will change the dynamic of this team, but his name is Molk.
I +1'd you...but your avatar bothers me each and every time I see it. Dang.
I saw what you did there the other day, blueblueblue.
I dont get it - what do you have against Ms. Vergara?
(in the spirit of the previous avatar change)
I'm referring to this current one. Previous avatars have not had any affect on my mental-health or well-being.
Now you're just going to get me in trouble...changing avatars on me.
I don't know whether to thank you for the change, or be livid with you for making my comments look based off of a different avatar.
I thought about this, but I still couldn't pass up the opportunity. I am sure, however, that the last avatar was disturbing enough that people will know that your comment was legit. Someone had to say it.
That player's name is Death Roh
I'm taking practice reports with a grain of salt, but I do love your optimism (if not your paragraph structure).
It's a really groundbreaking theory that good teams' performances suffer when they lose their starting quarterback, especially one headed for a Heisman Trophy.
If you develop it, this could be your "Moneyball."
exploring the novel and highly contentious proposition that "starting a combination of Vince Young, Mike Vick, Donovan McNabb, Dennis Dixon, and Usain Bolt at quarterback would benefit a team... assuming he can throw accurately."
I'll believe the Denard starting thing when I see it in the fall, but one thing people need to realize is that he doesn't have to be the kind of passer that Tate is to be wildly successful in this offense. Pat White was pretty Tits at WVU when he shredded the likes of Georgia and Oklahoma, and I think Denard may be faster.
Waffles Waffles and More Waffles
all guys he named are black, fast, strong arms, runners in college, not particularly known for accuracy, Vick and Denard are both 6'0 ish, all played in some type of option offense in college, could make something out of nothing, and etc
I agree that it's a bad thing to compare people of the same qualities, but these aren't that big of a stretch. If anything, their playing styles are similar
-1 for listing race as a quality. damn racist...
The players' first names weren't given, so the "Young" could conceivably be Steve.
Rodney Peete, Warren Moon, Byron Leftwich, Tommy Frazier,...
Can we call him Ron Mexico?
So what you're saying is that Denard is going to run an underground dog fighting ring, end up getting caught, fight with TO, will subsequently disappear amidst speculation that he is suicidal, spend 2 years in federal prison, and be traded to the Redskins?
Then I'm going to have to go with, Tate.
What kind of dogs are we talking here? The world could benefit from less miniature poodles. I hate those ugly turds.
how come the OP didn't have spaces after commas or periods?
THAT'S what you notice? Man, you take grammar nazism to a whole new level, and I am proud to know you.
Seriously? You failed to capitalize "be" and left out the period at the end of your statement.
Is that specific enough?
First of all, it's you're, not "your".
Secondly, I don't check for grammatical errors, but your post happened to contain so many errors that they took away from the message you were attempting to convey. Your post was borderline unreadable, because the grammatical errors were so incredibly distracting.
If you want people to respect your opinions and take you seriously then you need to make your posts presentable. You don't need to be perfect. I make mistakes all the time, but jesus man, use some goddamn punctuation.
Noone wants2 read,posts,with misspealed wurds,and excessive commas,with no spaces after the commas and no periods at the end of the sentences and all of the sentences are either run on sentences or fragments.
Also, please use question marks when you want to ask a question, k
You forgot a period at the end.
I love the fact that bluesmash probably fails to grasp satire, and also thinks I'm "girlish" or something.
How can you think there is a probability of less than 1 that he doesn't grasp satire, when he clearly has no grasp on life, logic, or English?
Strange coming from someone with the grammar of a 4 year old.
You've pretty much summed up your post with that.
emo? Is that you?
THOUSANDS of computers.
Second time I've laughed out loud in this thread (the Princess Bride quote was so well used I couldn't help it). I suspect my professor is beginning to think I'm creepily amused by Evidence law.
What I really want is a complex breakdown of the depth chart.
I'll even set it up for you.
Ready, set, Go!
I'm not shaking my head, my head is shaking. Violently. As if my brain were about to explode.
Learn to use it.
Was that a statement, or a question?
Stop feeding the bears!
If you wanna win, yell with all your might! We say "Go", you say "Fight"!
I hate Grammar Nazism as much as the next man, but COME ON...
There's a flat, wide bar next to the "alt" button towards the bottom of your keyboard. It's called the "space bar," and it is feeling woefully under-utilized.
Why do you hate punctuation and normal sentence structure?
Sometimes you can see them coming...
Watch out, he might be a made man.
Does your computer not let you use the space bar after periods? Actually, does the period button on your keyboard not work?
How about CAPS LOCK!!
Your avatar is four surly looking dudes. Clearly you're already a big fan of the club.
Making friends. :)
Cheetos bags twinkie wrappers? No they don't.
You were never in third grade, huh?
What's a pedifile looking dude? Is that someone who files children's medecine?
that this is a really really unproductive thread?
It didn havta be dis way.
Vick = Demetrius Brown
good arm, no accuracy. whenever they threw the ball just hoped someone on their team came down with it. kind of like last year with Denard. although we all know he will be much better in that regard this year.
Threads that turn into grammar crusades are fun.
when I first started posting here I was really mad about the grammar nazis on this site. I was thinking that football discussion is one thing, and writing a well edited post something else. Usually the type of people who are passionate about prose know nothing about football and vice versa. Now I appreciate when people make their posts easy to read. I see the value in trying to make this blog better, but maybe it would help if the grammar nazis were just a little nicer about how they point it out? I still think some people are a little over the top about it...
I am pretty sure the grammar issue is just the icing on the cake. I have only seen it pointed out when it coincides with a moronic post. Bluesmash take a bow.
Dost thou mean to be humorous in thine accusations? Tis but the most magnificent description of thine self.
Bluesmash though I have never met you I have the impression that you are really into Jersey Shore. Also you're only half italian on your mother's side which robs you of the vowel at the end of your name that you so desperately crave. So to make up for it you have an Italian flag license plate, belong to the Son's of Italy, and walk around quoting Goodfellas. Just a guess (though) but probably spot on.
Or else you will come through his internets and beat him up?
It looks like we have ourselves a situation.
You are the original internet gangsta without a doubt. When you log on with your avatar and start talking shit it probably makes you feel like a real mob boss? Please don't lump all Italians in with you because you are one of a kind.
Apologize or you'll continue to lob poorly worded insults at him?
the record for most mgopoints lost throughout a single thread? I hope for bluesmash that there is a mercy rule or something.
At least you're a decent sport about it.