Cpt Cupcake

May 9th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^

Funny how the last 3 years Rivals was gospel and rankings matter according to "knowledable" posters.  Now, it doesn't and Rivals is washed up.  I guess I need to check in more often to find out what I am supposed to believe. 

From what I see, the caliber of athlete being recruited is about the same, the style (bigger/slower) and the prevailing winds have changed.  The level of recruit is about the same IMO.

ken725

May 9th, 2011 at 11:59 AM ^

I find that really strange as well.  One of the mods said that Dunn was one that could be close to getting a five star.  It must mean that they really cooled on him.  I guess he is going to have to have a huge year to move up the rankings.  

It could be that he fell somewhat because he committed to osu so early in the process.

WoodleyIsBeast

May 9th, 2011 at 11:11 AM ^

Keith Marshall, Zeke Pike, Jordan Payton was down the list.  This is just preliminary, we should expect a lot of flucuation throughout the season.  My guess is Ross has another monster statistical year and ends up a 6.0.

Crable Robber

May 9th, 2011 at 11:12 AM ^

Is that I think Rivals defines their star-assignment system by NFL potential above all else. Thus RJS, who is raw but huge, is still a better NFL prospect than Ross or TRich, since those guys are on the shorter side. 

And yes, I realize Cissoko was like top 40 somehow. 

ChiefLB

May 9th, 2011 at 11:13 AM ^

Wow.  Not that it matters (as the only thing that matters is how they produce on the field once they get to A2).  Am also suprised that state of mich talent level is considered down (as I was of the opposite impression).

jg2112

May 9th, 2011 at 11:23 AM ^

It would be interesting if there was a correlation between recruiting ranking and preferred access to said recruit.

We know there probably was one wrt Cullen Christian.

With regard to the rankings, why do we care? If the rankings were all in agreement, what reason would there be to pay attention to any of them? They need to differentiate to justify their existences.

Promote RichRod

May 9th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^

rankings hold WRT Midwest talent, it should be pretty hilarious to see where MSU ends up in the rankings coming off their BEST YEAR EVAR. I'm guessing they will have a class that looks like CMU's once we take all the 4 and 3 star players left in Michigan.

JimLahey

May 9th, 2011 at 11:30 AM ^

The list is always drastically different than we anticipate it to be. Let's just be honest and admit that every fanbase over-values their own reruits and always expects them to be ranked higher than they are. Furthermore, I wouldn't worry about this too much because the first rivals 100 list is always drastically different than the final one. The final one is the only one that matters, and even that doesn't matter until the kids start playing. Based on what I've read, I still can't believe James Ross isn't on the list.

AAB

May 9th, 2011 at 11:44 AM ^

is that Rivals doesn't even have a Midwest recruiting guy. There are like 15 Midwest kids in the top 100. Whether Michigan should have more top-100 guys or not, it's hard to fairly rank the best football players in the country when you don't even have a dedicated guy assigned to one of the major football regions.

kirbylee34

May 9th, 2011 at 11:36 AM ^

The important thing to remember is that Hoke is dominating the Midwest in terms of recruitment. It's a statement. Plus, watch some highlight tapes of our recruits and you make the call on how good they are. Rivals considers size and athleticism often more than necessary at times. Once big blue wins some games we will crack some of those "top 100"

kirbylee34

May 9th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^

I agree he is a beast. You look at his offers however, not really top 100 type offers. Strong offers but not top-notch. I also read that he had wanted to play tight end at a lot of schools, until he listened to mattison who asked him to become a defensive presence. Certaintly Michigan feels they can add some frame to the kid

UM2k1

May 9th, 2011 at 3:03 PM ^

I'm pretty sure everyone knows what you meant, but the point of the comment was that Michigan IS NOT Big Blue.  Big Blue is the Giants int he NFL or maybe Kentucky Basketball.  Every team that has the color blue IS NOT Big Blue.  The correct terms are:

U of M, M, Michigan, Wolverines. 

Please adjust your fandom accordingly.

ken725

May 9th, 2011 at 12:14 PM ^

I heard that the guys who founded Rivals created 247sports.  I guess rivals was known to have good analysts in the past all over the country, but now it seems like they are located in the south and California.

dahblue

May 9th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^

While I'm not psyched with this initial list, I'm not sure if Rivals really treats us so much worse than Scout.

2011:  Rivals had us at #21 while Scout had us at #27.
2010:  Rivals #20; Scout #12
2009:  Rivals #8; Scout #14
2008:  Rivals #10; Scout #6

Just seems like they always differ and it isn't really consistent as to which one rates us higher. In my opinion, whichever one rates us higher is clearly a much more reputable source.

neoavatara

May 9th, 2011 at 12:03 PM ^

Kind of makes the whole list suspect.  Almost everyone I talk to in Ohio says he is either #1 or #2 in the state...and we know how good the recruits are in the state. 

TampaBLUE

May 9th, 2011 at 12:11 PM ^

William Mahone #78 as RB ahead of Dunn? but we want him as a DB - interesting.

Also anyone know who is the 7th OSU player (former) Sporting News is talking about involved in the tatoo scandal - potentially vacating wins from all the way to 2008?

ChasingRabbits

May 9th, 2011 at 12:23 PM ^

Crable Robber: "And yes, I realize Cissoko was like top 40 somehow."

 

Well..  the NFL loves DB's with criminal records, so that probably moved him up a couple notches.

michiganbum3000

May 9th, 2011 at 12:31 PM ^

i too was a lil surprised to see mahone at #78 and rated the best back in ohio. Though he doesnt get the hype as ball or dunn, i like his highlight tape, it shows he can run inside or outside.  The coaches know more than i do but i would be fine with taking him as a rb on the offensive side of the ball?