Jonathan Chait askes the question. Pretty balanced article that spoke to a couple of questions I had on my mind regarding coaching issues and our kicking game.
Rivals raises the question: Is Michigan Undisciplined?
but i think more of that is how young our guys are. undisciplined/lack of experience.
Lewan the penalty against indiana was very questionable but the one against iowa the whistle blew and he came 4yds and blew up a guy turned away from him....
Molk had the defenseless player call, wich some of this when the play is beyond you, you just need to let it go.
Christian vs nd, was going to be called even if the hit was weak, it was over a yd oob by the time he hit the player. You cannot do that and I don't care if you are a tr fr, you know from little league football oob is oob and you will get a pf for hitting a player oob.
Many others, undisciplined more in play and consistency on defense I would say...
With inexperience comes mistakes, a lack of discipline. Certainly, (outside of Ezeh) most of our experienced starters have been disciplined, in position (Martin, RVB, Mouton-ish, Kovacs, Floyd-ish, Schilling, Molk, Odoms, Stonum, Hemingway, Webb, Koger, etc.)
However, I will pull my hair out if we get multiple facemask penalties in a game again
Chait seems to come to the conclusion that, yes there is some evidence that they are undisciplined. However, he notes that it is sparse and ill formed.
That alone sounds undisciplined!
Sounds more like someone is trying to solve a problem via numerical linear algebra.
but I think young Mr. Lewan in his passion may need to tidy up his game a bit. I'm not calling him out he does play with great passion just want to see him succeed and not get penalized.
I agree. I think Lewan is "undisciplined," in some regard, but the rest of the team not so much. There are certain penalties that are characteristic of a lack of discipline, and others that aren't. I attribute most of our offenses problems finishing drives on lack of experience as opposed to a categoric lack of discipline/coaching.
His opinions are very interesting.
The team has been making 15 yard penalties a habit this year. Back to back 15 yarders against Sparty that helped them score a TD. A similar situation with Iowa. A late hit on ND's last drive that put them in position to throw it in the end zone on the last play...although that one was questionable. Penalties killed possible scoring drives against ND as well where we got the ball at mid-field. I believe our only penalty in the UConn game was a 15 yard unsportsmanlike call that wiped out a 20 yard run by Denard. The majority of the time, we can't have just a simple 5 yard penalty. It always has to be a personal foul.
It's frustrating but still not as frustrating as watching our opponents make every single critical 3rd and long with shocking ease.
I'm glad he mentioned that FG. To hear RichRod's detractors, every Michigan player was clueless and every Iowa player immediately went into "blocked FG" mode. Far from it ... as Chait noted, only a few guys were clued-in.
I made the mistake of reading the comments after the article. It made me really appreciate all of you that much more.
Now, the real question is: Why do I always feel the need to read the comments section when I know the inanity is just going to piss me off?
you are undisciplined !
Go Blue !
Undisciplined commenting after articles is UNACCEPTABLE!! Where are the family values?!
young and unexperienced is the situation.
Yes this team IS undisciplined on defense. Numerous players are constantly ignoring their responsibilities, whether it be covering a zone, maintaining proper outside leverage, or fillng the correct gap.
THAT is what I think of when somebody asks if this team is undisciplined.
And I also think Tate often lacks discipline with the ball.
...inexplicably. Tate, Demens, et al. Anyway, I highly doubt discipline is a problem in the respect of the team and disciplinary measures. Rivals is just looking for a subject that no one else has done yet. With experience comes discipline. That is a rule rarely broken. There are very few top notch defensive players that can come out and make a big difference right off the bat. They need that experience and time. They need that mentoring. Even the players that make a difference right away normally have someone with experience helping them along the way.... Michigan doesn't have that.
I just find it perplexing that we can have ONE penalty in the UConn game yet we've progressed (?) to where we are now.
What an obvious question!