Rivals Position Rankings out
In conjunction with the 3 stars rankings (see previous post), Rivals has also released its position rankings. The link below provides access to all Rivals position rankings.
Lots of food for thought.
Enjoy.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1231113
Couple of early thoughts:
1. Tyler O'Connor at 13? Maty Mauk at 19?
2. Ondre Pipkins the 19th best DT? You got to be nuts...
3. Wormley a 3*, behind Pharoah Brown?
I agree with you.
The Mauk v. O'Connor ranking was interesting. No Appleby either.
I think Wormley will get that 4th star fairly easily.
of the town for over a year, his ranking went down during the offseason, rumors about him getting soft even though he competes in track and field after football. His senior season will bring his ratings back up.
I thought it was strange to see them swap Jaleel Johnson and Pipkins with Sheldon Day. His standing has dropped off for God knows what reason. I thought it was Rivals that was high on the Army game participants, and ESPN was high on the Under Armor kids. Ojemudia is still unranked despite getting into the Army game.
in the Army game yet. He was nominated for the game. And they nominate over 500 players. Royce Jenkins-Stone has been selected to play in the Army game. But Mario O has just been nominated and might get selected. Rivals seems to be a little low on him, they claim it's because he's a tweener
he hasn't started to really move up boards until the most recent camps, where he's been dominating. give it the summer and i'd be willing to get he flys up the rivals board
How is this surprising to anyone? RIVALS DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A MIDWEST ANALYST! They are the least subjective, heavily biased towards southern kids service out there. It has not become a HORRIBLE recruiting ranking service.
With that said, a few sites do still throw some well written articles out there, like the wolverine.com
However, if your into recruiting the most and have not left that place, well, i don't know what to say.
Still no rating for Mario?? Thats is strange to me..
'Players such as Nashville (Tenn.) McGavock defensive end Caleb Azubike, Toledo (Ohio) Whitmer defensive endChristopher Wormley and Lago Vista, Texas defensive tackle Donald Hopkins are all talented players with high ceilings who just fell below four-star status but would be ranked higher in less deep years at their positions.'
Players that are very close to 4*:
AJ Williams (16) and Devin Funchess (17) - currently 12 4* TEs
Caleb Stacey (12) - currently 10 4* OGs
Godin (27) - currently 22 4* DTs
Wormley (21) - currently 20 4* SDEs
Ringer (11) - currently 9 4* ILBs
Gant (22) - currently 16 4* Ss
All 3-stars are 5.7's. That's awesome.
...of interest.
Pro Style QB: Gunner Kiel, 1
OT: Andrus Peat, 3; Kyle Kalis, 4; Zach Banner, 7; Erik Magnuson, 8; Kyle Dodson, 18; Jordan Diamond, 25; Ben Braden, 59
OG: Caleb Stacey, 12
TE: A.J. Williams, 16; Devin Funchess, 17
FB: E.J. Fatu, 3
WR: Dorial Green-Beckham, 1; Dwayne Stanford, 11
RB: Dennis Norfleet, 7
All Purpose Back: Bri'onte Dunn, 11; Greg Garmon, 17
I believe you have the RB and APB mixed up. Although I think Rivals has their links mixed up too, so not your fault.
...correct on both accounts.
Ringer very close to a four star. Standifer closer to a four star than I expected. Good rankings, overall. After they fucked us in the top 150!!! AMIRITE GUYS? AMIRITE???
Rivals does a top 250.
they (as in ESPN) screwed us in the 150 (as in the ESPNu 150 where only 2 of our current commits placed)
...of interest:
DT: Aziz Shittu, 3; Jarron Jones, 7; Danny O'Brien, 17; Ondre Pipkins, 19; Matthew Godin, 27
WDE: Ifeadi Odenigbo, 4; Se'von Pittman, 8; Adolphus Washington, 10; Tom Strobel 18
SDE: Pharaoh Brown, 20; Chris Wormley, 21
ILB: James Ross, 4; Kaleb Ringer, 11
OLB: Royce Jenkins-Stone, 7; Joe Bolden, 16
CB: Yuri Wright, 3; Wayne Morgan, 13; Armani Reeves, 16; Terry Richardson, 18; Anthony Standifer, 37
S: Jarrod Wilson, 13; Allen Gant, 22
For inside linebackers, they have James Ross at #4 and Kaleb Ringer at #11. At outside linebacker they have RJS at #7 and Bolden at #16. Thats an impressive linebacker group.
Four of the top 16 linebackers. Amazing!
Since that crosses 2 position groups, the best we can claim is 4 of the top 27 'backers
/being an asshole
I spoke to Mike Farrell over at Rivals and he told me the following:
1. They see Mario as a tweener and need further evaluation before they decide. Would help if his HS coaches would play him more at OLB this coming season, since that's where he projects at Michigan.
2. They help pick the kids for the Army All-American game and Mario is nominated but not yet selected, which helps explain why he has not been rated in the 4-star bunch. I guess his Sr. season is going to be key in how much he climbs up the charts.
ESPN and Scout are higher on Mario (both 4-star), also #94 on Tom Lemming's Top 100 - we'll see. Either way, kid is a gamer.
#7 and #16 OLB (RJS & Bolden)
arghh
Brian really needs a link to this in the "Useful Stuff" tab.
Wow.
I give the O/U on this profile picture at 5 days.
Sorry... double post fail. Be easy it's my first comment
Nice play.
He's a 4* to both Scout and ESPN
They gave Caleb Stacey a 5.7-#12 OG. 2 players away from the 4 star group.
Anthony Standifer also a 5.7-#37 CB. (they list Richardson just under Reeves, bastards)
Kaleb Ringer = 5.7 #11 ILB. 1 player away from the 4 star group.
Chris Wormley = 5.7 #21 SDE. Last one out of 4 star group (Pharoah Brown last 4 star in)
Matt Godin = 5.7 #27 DT. 4 places out of 4 star group, (Sheldon Day last 4 star in)
Ben Braden = 5.7 #59 OT out of 80 named. 1 spot behind Jonah Pirsig (20 spots out of 4 stars)
AJ Williams & Devin Funchess = 5.7 #16&17. They rate Williams higher and Ron Thompson not at all. 3 spots outside of 4 stars.
Surprisingly high on AJ Williams & Caleb Stacey. (Aziz Shittu gets 5 stars and #3 DT nod.)
Joe Bolden safely a 4 star and #167 on Rivals 250, ( near James Ross at 143.)
Jarrod Wilson already a 4 star Safety. TRich only a 5.8 Expect his rating to climb this season.
I was surprised Stacy was ranked so highly since he committed so early and there wasn't much talk of him. Although I think some of our guys nad targets got snubbed its good to see all of our players (minus ome) ranked a 5.7 or above.
Now its proven. They don't really have an analyst team here who visits kids game in/ game out.
I'd trust anyone on Mgoblog more than Rivals.
I have to believe at least 10/12 of our kids are closer to 4* rankings.
Well my consensus from all this information.... is that Rivals sucks
Most of Michigan's commitments are near the 5.7/5.8 rating border (or higher). That means they're very close to four-star status. A really good class the coaches are putting together, and rivals is noticing it as well.
Florida State with the #1, #2, and #9 defensive ends.
Ron Thompson is listed as a WR on Rivals and is not rated, nor given any stars. They do not appear to be very high on Thompson, but I feel he will be a great player in college.
I'm too worried about how any of our DL targets are ranked. We have three DL coaches on this staff, including the head coach and a former NFL coordinator. I'm willing to take their collective assessments over Rivals or Scout any day when it comes to the D-Line.
Excuse me for a dumb question, but what do those 5.7, 5.8 ratings mean?
Its pretty much an extra ranking in addition to the players star ranking.
The ranking system ranks prospects on a numerical scale from 6.1-4.9.
- 6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect
- 6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
- 5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
- 5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player
- 4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about
Thanks for the clarification.
They finally rated Mario Ojemudia:
3-star
5.7 rating
Another 3-star who could very well make the jump to 4 star status! Exciting stuff.
and he's now rated 3* 5.6
was considered the best of the bunch the last couple years (Scout doesn't update its offer lists! Scout has the position groups all wrong!) but now they have no idea what they are talking about, are biased against the Midwest, etc.
Oh internet, is there anything you CAN'T do?
These guys are Michigan signees. They will get evaluated by Rivals and ranked accordingly. There is still a senior season to play. Even if they didn't have dedicated Midwest guys they will still be out to see the guys that have committed to Big10 schools. There's a chance that Rivals does not have a vested interest in underranking Michigan recruits and just doesn't think our commits are as good as we think.
Im studying for the Michigan Bar, and have not been able to dedicate my usual 3-4 hours a day on MGoBlog that I would like, so sorry if this has been covered
What happened to Brunbridge? Last I heard he was starting to lean towards Michigan, I know there is some questions about his grades. Now when WRs are discussed his name doesnt even come up. Just curious.
Thanks
Brunbridge? That's a new one.
Wide receiver Aaron BURBRIDGE has some academic issues and might not have a committable offer at this point.
Basketball guard Carlton BRUNDIDGE is presumably going to be enrolling at Michigan soon and playing this upcoming fall.
But I highly doubt I was the first person to mispell his name like that.
Either way thanks for answering my question
Mmmmmmm...you're not the first person to misspell his name, but to spell it "Brunbridge" was something I haven't seen.