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Rivals Position Rankings out

In conjunction with the 3 stars rankings (see previous post), Rivals has also released its position rankings.  The link below provides access to all Rivals position rankings.

Lots of food for thought.

Enjoy.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1231113

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:07 PM | Interesting... (Score:1)
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Couple of early thoughts:

1.  Tyler O'Connor at 13?  Maty Mauk at 19?

2.  Ondre Pipkins the 19th best DT?  You got to be nuts...

3.  Wormley a 3*, behind Pharoah Brown?

 

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:09 PM | Spot on (Score:1)
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I agree with you.

The Mauk v. O'Connor ranking was interesting.  No Appleby either.

I think Wormley will get that 4th star fairly easily. 

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:18 PM | Wormley was the talk (Score:1)
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of the town for over a year, his ranking went down during the offseason, rumors about him getting soft even though he competes in track and field after football. His senior season will bring his ratings back up.

I thought it was strange to see them swap Jaleel Johnson and Pipkins with Sheldon Day. His standing has dropped off for God knows what reason. I thought it was Rivals that was high on the Army game participants, and ESPN was high on the Under Armor kids. Ojemudia is still unranked despite getting into the Army game.

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:41 PM | Ojemudia is not (Score:1 Normal)
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in the Army game yet.  He was nominated for the game.  And they nominate over 500 players.  Royce Jenkins-Stone has been selected to play in the Army game. But Mario O has just been nominated and might get selected.  Rivals seems to be a little low on him, they claim it's because he's a tweener

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:44 PM | Pipkins (Score:2)
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... is the big surprise to me. I thought he would be top 5-6, but to not even be top 10? He's over 320 lbs as a junior, a beast, athletic. Are there really 18 better DT's in this class?

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:20 PM | he hasn't started to really (Score:1)
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he hasn't started to really move up boards until the most recent camps, where he's been dominating.  give it the summer and i'd be willing to get he flys up the rivals board

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June 14th, 2011 at 8:33 AM | Should be no surprise (Score:1 Normal)
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How is this surprising to anyone?  RIVALS DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A MIDWEST ANALYST!  They are the least subjective, heavily biased towards southern kids service out there.  It has not become a HORRIBLE recruiting ranking service.  

With that said, a few sites do still throw some well written articles out there, like the wolverine.com

However, if your into recruiting the most and have not left that place, well, i don't know what to say.

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:08 PM | Mario (Score:3 Normal)
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Still no rating for Mario??  Thats is strange to me..

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:38 PM | interesting on Wormley (Score:2 Normal)
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'Players such as Nashville (Tenn.) McGavock defensive end Caleb Azubike, Toledo (Ohio) Whitmer defensive endChristopher Wormley and Lago Vista, Texas defensive tackle Donald Hopkins are all talented players with high ceilings who just fell below four-star status but would be ranked higher in less deep years at their positions.'

 

Players that are very close to 4*:

AJ Williams (16) and Devin Funchess (17) - currently 12 4* TEs

Caleb Stacey (12) - currently 10 4* OGs

Godin (27) - currently 22 4* DTs

Wormley (21) - currently 20 4* SDEs

Ringer (11) - currently 9 4* ILBs

Gant (22) - currently 16 4* Ss

 

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:12 PM | All 3-stars are 5.7's. That's (Score:3 Interesting)
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All 3-stars are 5.7's. That's awesome.

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:41 PM | Some position rankings... (Score:3 Normal)
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...of interest.

Pro Style QB: Gunner Kiel, 1

OT: Andrus Peat, 3; Kyle Kalis, 4; Zach Banner, 7; Erik Magnuson, 8; Kyle Dodson, 18; Jordan Diamond, 25; Ben Braden, 59

OG: Caleb Stacey, 12

TE: A.J. Williams, 16; Devin Funchess, 17

FB: E.J. Fatu, 3

WR: Dorial Green-Beckham, 1; Dwayne Stanford, 11

RB: Dennis Norfleet, 7

All Purpose Back: Bri'onte Dunn, 11; Greg Garmon, 17

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:55 PM | I believe you have the RB and (Score:2)
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I believe you have the RB and APB mixed up.  Although I think Rivals has their links mixed up too, so not your fault.

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:13 PM | You are... (Score:2)
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...correct on both accounts.

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:04 PM | 150/250 (Score:3 Normal)
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Rivals does a top 250.

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:37 PM | I believe he meant (Score:1)
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they (as in ESPN) screwed us in the 150 (as in the ESPNu 150 where only 2 of our current commits placed)

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:44 PM | Some more position rankings... (Score:4 Normal)
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...of interest:

DT: Aziz Shittu, 3; Jarron Jones, 7; Danny O'Brien, 17; Ondre Pipkins, 19; Matthew Godin, 27

WDE:  Ifeadi Odenigbo, 4; Se'von Pittman, 8; Adolphus Washington, 10; Tom Strobel 18

SDE: Pharaoh Brown, 20; Chris Wormley, 21

ILB: James Ross, 4; Kaleb Ringer, 11

OLB: Royce Jenkins-Stone, 7;  Joe Bolden, 16

CB: Yuri Wright, 3; Wayne Morgan, 13; Armani Reeves, 16; Terry Richardson, 18; Anthony Standifer, 37

S: Jarrod Wilson, 13; Allen Gant, 22

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:27 PM | For inside linebackers, they (Score:2)
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For inside linebackers, they have James Ross at #4 and Kaleb Ringer at #11. At outside linebacker they have RJS at #7 and Bolden at #16. Thats an impressive linebacker group.

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:33 PM | Amazing (Score:1 Normal)
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Four of the top 16 linebackers.  Amazing!

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:53 PM | Not really (Score:5 Normal)
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Since that crosses 2 position groups, the best we can claim is 4 of the top 27 'backers

/being an asshole

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:29 PM | #4 and #11 ILB (Ross & Ringer) (Score:1)
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#7 and #16 OLB (RJS & Bolden)

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:31 PM | edit (Score:1)
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arghh

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:32 PM | Updated Commit Spreadsheet (Score:5 Informative)
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'Cats comin' for y'all

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:36 PM | Brian really needs a link to (Score:5 Normal)
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Brian really needs a link to this in the "Useful Stuff" tab.

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June 14th, 2011 at 12:50 PM | Wow. (Score:1)
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Wow.

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June 14th, 2011 at 12:54 PM | I give the O/U on this (Score:2 Funny)
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I give the O/U on this profile picture at 5 days.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:38 PM | Brian really needs a link to (Score:3 Normal)
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Sorry... double post fail.  Be easy it's my first comment

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June 14th, 2011 at 7:18 AM | ...and yet you doubled your point total as well. (Score:1)
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Nice play. 

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June 13th, 2011 at 8:42 PM | Weird That Ojemudia goes unranked (Score:2)
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He's a 4* to both Scout and ESPN

'Cats comin' for y'all

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:01 PM | High 3 stars (Score:1)
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They gave Caleb Stacey a 5.7-#12 OG. 2 players away from the 4 star group.

Anthony Standifer also a 5.7-#37 CB. (they list Richardson just under Reeves, bastards)

Kaleb Ringer = 5.7 #11 ILB. 1 player away from the 4 star group.

Chris Wormley = 5.7 #21 SDE. Last one out of 4 star group (Pharoah Brown last 4 star in)

Matt Godin = 5.7 #27 DT. 4 places out of 4 star group, (Sheldon Day last 4 star in)

Ben Braden = 5.7 #59 OT out of 80 named. 1 spot behind Jonah Pirsig (20 spots out of 4 stars)

AJ Williams & Devin Funchess = 5.7 #16&17. They rate Williams higher and Ron Thompson not at all. 3 spots outside of 4 stars.

Surprisingly high on AJ Williams & Caleb Stacey. (Aziz Shittu gets 5 stars and #3 DT nod.)

Joe Bolden safely a 4 star and #167 on Rivals 250, ( near James Ross at 143.)

Jarrod Wilson already a 4 star Safety.  TRich only a 5.8 Expect his rating to climb this season.

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June 13th, 2011 at 11:40 PM | I was surprised Stacy was (Score:1)
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I was surprised Stacy was ranked so highly since he committed so early and there wasn't much talk of him. Although I think some of our guys nad targets got snubbed its good to see all of our players (minus ome) ranked a 5.7 or above.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:12 PM | Rivals are biased against the Midwest (Score:1)
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Now its proven. They don't really have an analyst team here who visits kids game in/ game out.

I'd trust anyone on Mgoblog more than Rivals.

I have to believe at least 10/12 of our kids are closer to 4* rankings.

GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:16 PM | Well my consensus from all (Score:0 Redundant)
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Well my consensus from all this information.... is that Rivals sucks 

"And they'll never catch him..."

 

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:17 PM | Most of Michigan's (Score:3 Normal)
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Most of Michigan's commitments are near the 5.7/5.8 rating border (or higher). That means they're very close to four-star status. A really good class the coaches are putting together, and rivals is noticing it as well. 

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:20 PM | Holy crap (Score:2)
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Florida State with the #1, #2, and #9 defensive ends.

"I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have no kids and three money?"

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June 13th, 2011 at 9:28 PM | Interesting (Score:1)
wresler120
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Ron Thompson is listed as a WR on Rivals and is not rated, nor given any stars. They do not appear to be very high on Thompson, but I feel he will be a great player in college.

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:21 PM | I'm too worried about how any (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm too worried about how any of our DL targets are ranked.  We have three DL coaches on this staff, including the head coach and a former NFL coordinator.  I'm willing to take their collective assessments over Rivals or Scout any day when it comes to the D-Line.  

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:37 PM | Excuse me for a dumb (Score:1)
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Excuse me for a dumb question, but what do those 5.7, 5.8 ratings mean?

"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"

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June 13th, 2011 at 10:46 PM | Its pretty much an extra (Score:3 Normal)
CStock20
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Its pretty much an extra ranking in addition to the players star ranking. 

The ranking system ranks prospects on a numerical scale from 6.1-4.9.

  • 6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect
  • 6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
  • 5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
  • 5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player
  • 4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about

"And they'll never catch him..."

 

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June 13th, 2011 at 11:16 PM | Thanks for the clarification. (Score:1)
althegreat23
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Thanks for the clarification.

"A Michigan Man will coach a Michigan Team"

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June 14th, 2011 at 2:43 AM | They finally rated Mario (Score:1)
All-American
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They finally rated Mario Ojemudia:

3-star

5.7 rating

 

Another 3-star who could very well make the jump to 4 star status! Exciting stuff.

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June 14th, 2011 at 8:31 AM | and he's now rated 3*  5.6 (Score:2)
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and he's now rated 3*  5.6

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June 14th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | I like how Rivals (Score:0 Flamebait)
Promote RichRod
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was considered the best of the bunch the last couple years (Scout doesn't update its offer lists!  Scout has the position groups all wrong!) but now they have no idea what they are talking about, are biased against the Midwest, etc.

Oh internet, is there anything you CAN'T do?

These guys are Michigan signees.  They will get evaluated by Rivals and ranked accordingly.  There is still a senior season to play.  Even if they didn't have dedicated Midwest guys they will still be out to see the guys that have committed to Big10 schools.  There's a chance that Rivals does not have a vested interest in underranking Michigan recruits and just doesn't think our commits are as good as we think.

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June 14th, 2011 at 1:23 PM | Question (Score:2)
The Name
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Im studying for the Michigan Bar, and have not been able to dedicate my usual 3-4 hours a day on MGoBlog that I would like, so sorry if this has been covered

What happened to Brunbridge? Last I heard he was starting to lean towards Michigan, I know there is some questions about his grades. Now when WRs are discussed his name doesnt even come up. Just curious.

Thanks

Hey Dirk Nowitzki you just won the NBA Finals, why the long face?

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June 14th, 2011 at 1:44 PM | Brunbridge?  That's a new (Score:1)
Magnus
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Brunbridge?  That's a new one.

Wide receiver Aaron BURBRIDGE has some academic issues and might not have a committable offer at this point.

Basketball guard Carlton BRUNDIDGE is presumably going to be enrolling at Michigan soon and playing this upcoming fall.

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June 14th, 2011 at 1:47 PM | Fair enough (Score:2)
The Name
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But I highly doubt I was the first person to mispell his name like that.

Either way thanks for answering my question

Hey Dirk Nowitzki you just won the NBA Finals, why the long face?

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June 14th, 2011 at 2:00 PM | Mmmmmmm...you're not the (Score:1)
Magnus
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Mmmmmmm...you're not the first person to misspell his name, but to spell it "Brunbridge" was something I haven't seen.

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