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December 10th, 2012 at 6:39 PM | Oh, I am afraid I am quite a (Score:1)
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Oh, I am afraid I am quite a few years before you.  Ed Miracle was coach at Central when I played.  A genuine piece of work, and not in a good way.

 

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | I understand that argument, (Score:2)
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but Treadwell and Green would be serious talent upgrades in both positions for us. With what our offensive line would look like in 2014 (maybe even late 2013), I would imagine that'd be a draw for both a receiver and a running back (more time for the QB to throw in the pocket and more holes to punch through). It seems like it would be a great opportunity to be an offensive skill position player.

I know the SEC is a better conference than the B1G at the moment, but I expect that disparity to close at least a bit with a resurgent Michigan.

It does makes me wish we'd been able to keep hold of Standifer, though.

Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | "Our offensive line is going (Score:1 Normal)
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"Our offensive line is going to be good" is not as good of an argument as "Our offensive line is already good and will continue to be."

I'm not saying Ole Miss and other schools can make that pitch, but WE all think about the 2014 offensive line because we're fans and that's what we do.  These kids want to see production on the field, not just hypotheticals.  Alabama can recruit stud after stud because they've seen good offensive lines and the stud running backs running behind them.

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December 10th, 2012 at 4:15 PM | I also thought Treadwell (Score:2)
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I also thought Treadwell established a decent relationship with Shane Morris. Nothing better than a WR being comfortable with his QB especially if you are the same age/grade.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | We also ran a completely (Score:4 Normal)
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We also ran a completely different offense before Nebraska.

Next year the RB will be relied on much muck more, and WRs like Roundtree magically started showing up when Gardner was at QB.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:35 PM | Dont forget Robert Nkemdiche, (Score:1)
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Dont forget Robert Nkemdiche, while not a M target the #1 player is considering Ole Miss and Georgia.  Momma wants him to go to Ole Miss to play with his brother but its probably a 70/30 shot that Georgia ends up with him.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:52 PM | Nate Knows (Score:1 Normal)
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Channeling my Inner Nate Silver:

Green: 80%

McQuay: 55%

LaQuon: 5%

Dawson 45%

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:24 PM | My guess is if Dawson (Score:1)
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My guess is if Dawson recommits Green is a lock to Michigan because the two of them are good friends

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:29 PM | Just because they are good (Score:3 Normal)
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Just because they are good friends doesn't mean they will attend the same college. There are plenty of examples.

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | But it don't hoit!! (Score:0 Offtopic)
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But it don't hoit!!

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December 10th, 2012 at 4:16 PM | we don't usually see an (Score:1)
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we don't usually see an example like this where it's so close to signing day and both players are down to a few schools, I think in this situation it helps quite a bit, especially since the 2 positions are so reliant on each other

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December 11th, 2012 at 1:05 AM | You're right - in most (Score:2 Normal)
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You're right - in most examples, guys who say they want to play together end up choosing different schools for a variety of reasons. 

However, this situation isn't typical.  These are two guys who have their favorites narrowed down pretty far, with one school in common, and that one school is the leader for both kids late in the process. 

It's one thing to say in April that you want to play in college with your buddy.  It's another to talk to your buddy, realize you're both favoring the same school in December, and decide that that's enough to push it over the edge. 

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:49 PM | i'm not surprised. if green (Score:2 Normal)
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i'm not surprised. if green comes here, he would be running behind what should become one of the best, if not the best offensive line in the country in a couple years. he should see immediate playing time, too, if he lives up to his billing. if he can improve his overall speed, especially his breakaway speed, i can't imagine what he'll be able to accomplish.

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December 10th, 2012 at 12:52 PM | Bryant vs. Green (Score:2 Normal)
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Magnus (or any other film watcher), care to compare Green vs. Greg Bryant (recent ND commit)?  I'm curious since you seem to have been a bit skeptical re: Green even though he's the #1 ranked RB in some circles.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | I'm skeptical in that I don't (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm skeptical in that I don't think Green is the #1 running back in the country.  I do think that he can be a good running back.

Bryant is a little more like Cierre Wood who's currently at Notre Dame.  I don't think he's going to blow people away with his speed, but he's fairly shifty, fairly powerful, and fairly fast.  He's more physically developed than Wood was coming out of high school, though, so I imagine Bryant will be a bigger version.

Green is a little more like Montee Ball.  A straight-ahead bruiser who has improved his balance in the past year.  My biggest knock on Green has been his inability to keep his feet through contact, which was a HUGE problem as a junior.  His senior film is much better, in my opinion.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:48 PM | Well, Green=Montee Ball= WIN! (Score:1 Normal)
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Well, Green=Montee Ball= WIN! Can't complain about Montee Ball!

Go Blue.  That it all.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:00 PM | Great Insight (Score:5 Normal)
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Magnus, thank you for that insight.  I, and many other posters I would assume, really appreciate your insight and analysis with respect to specific players.  I try to follow as much as I can, but I just don't have the time to be able to follow all of the different recruits.  It's great to have a (informed) poster who can shed some light and make comparisons on specific players.

TL; DR -- Thanks

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:25 PM | Thanks for the compliments. (Score:2 Normal)
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Thanks for the compliments.

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December 10th, 2012 at 5:24 PM | Thanks Mom. Love, Magnus ;) (Score:2 Normal)
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Thanks Mom.

Love, Magnus

;)

Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | With the OL Green would be (Score:2 Normal)
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With the OL Green would be running behind, Ball comparisons are more than welcome.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:17 PM | We really need to land an Elite RB &.... (Score:0 Flamebait)
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an elite WR. This class has all the makings of a great future, but Hoke needs to show me some skills players. Stribling will be a great surprise though. He will be a stud at UM.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:36 PM | Deveon Smith isn't bad. (Score:5 Normal)
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Deveon Smith isn't bad.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:43 PM | he may very well be, but hoke (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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he may very well be, but hoke needs to be able to land those julio jones/trent richardson types of skill players. he's shown the ability to land elite defensive guys, but as far as offensive skill players, outside of morris, he doesn't have anyone. i know, recruit stars aren't everything, but you still need to land some of those guys. fortunately, it looks like michigan has the inside lane to green's commitment.

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December 10th, 2012 at 1:49 PM | Steller D with an average O= (Score:2 Normal)
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Steller D with an average O= LSU.  

We could do worse if we had to go that route.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | When I hear stellar D and (Score:5 Normal)
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When I hear stellar D and average O, it makes me think about 1997.

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | So far he has only completed (Score:5 Normal)
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So far he has only completed one full recruiting cycle. For 2012 and 2013 so far, at skill positions we have 1 5 Star, 4 4 stars, and are the favorites for another 5 star and have a decent shot another 5 star. This has been during a period of recruiting where we have been heavily focused on rebuilding the OL and defense. Criticism that Hoke can't recruit skill position players is stupid. 

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:51 PM | It's great that we have our (Score:2 Normal)
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It's great that we have our QB of the future and all, but I agree that our talent at RB/WR needs some work. LSU, Bama, etc. still have very talented players at these positions even if they are not hyper productive.



The days of a Roundtree level player as our pseudo-primary receiver need to end. I know our interior line was brutal at times this year, but it's obvious to me that we need better talent at RB to succeed in a manball offense.

Denard is my homeboy.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:00 PM | This is OT (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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for the thread but a guy with Michigan ties who recently worked with GM, Cam Cameron, is on the market...Hmmm... The Gorgeous One might be a little worried...or not 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.baltimoresun.com%2Fsports%2Fbaltimore-sports-blog%2Fbal-the-ravens-firing-of-offensive-coordinator-cam-cameron-smacks-of-panic-20121210%2C0%2C6951443.story%3Ftrack%3Drss&ei=jiLGUJ2TMYmZ0QWy7YCwBw&usg=AFQjCNHwVYjcJeiEQ_vqHokpnx3sVugkww&sig2=ac0UqC_L24HP5C4JguHchA

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | Absolutely not. (Score:4 Normal)
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Absolutely not.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | It would be nice to get some (Score:1)
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It would be nice to get some good recruiting news, on a side note A and M picked up Seals Jones that puts them up to 33 commits. How is that possible? 

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | They're in the SEC now. (Score:5 Normal)
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They're in the SEC now.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | "If ya run with the dogs, ya (Score:4 Normal)
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"If ya run with the dogs, ya get the fleas.  And distemper."

~ Someone older than Herm

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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December 10th, 2012 at 3:10 PM | I appreciate (Score:2 Normal)
Hardware Sushi
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I appreciate you using the Herm-approved squiqqly (~) rather than a dash (-) when doing the name thing.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:52 PM | Actually they are allowed to (Score:1)
michfan6060
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Actually they are allowed to use the Big 12 rules for this season so that is why they are allowed to.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

- Vince Lombardi

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | the reason is SEC (Score:0 Trolling)
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the reason is SEC

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:26 PM | he also said he is open to (Score:1)
BOGEY
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he also said he is open to other schools outside of his "top 6"

 

 

GO BLUE!

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:46 PM | "one of the best, if not the best offensive line in the country. (Score:2 Normal)
Don
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Maybe we should wait to see how well they actually play before pronouncing them one of the best in the country.


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December 10th, 2012 at 2:48 PM | I don't get why anybody thinks Shallman has a future as a RB (Score:2 Normal)
Don
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He's too slow-footed to be an effective RB at this level. However, he'd be plenty quick enough for the TE position.


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December 10th, 2012 at 8:36 PM | Or a rush DE, a position he (Score:1)
gopoohgo
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Or a rush DE, a position he seems to dominate on film, as well as 1-1s @ camps.

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:49 PM | Curious about the A&M (Score:1)
Bad MotherHoker
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Curious about the A&M situation and Georgia has 30 as well.  How many slots do they have open and how many kids are going to be told "sorry no room for you, best of luck".   Also just posted on Fox Sports Marcus Lattimore intends to enter the NFL draft  

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/south-carolina-marcus-lat...

 

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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December 10th, 2012 at 2:50 PM | No threadjacking intended! (Score:1)
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No threadjacking intended!

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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December 10th, 2012 at 3:37 PM | "Michigan has the edge" has as much meaning as (Score:2 Normal)
Don
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"Academics are very important to me."

If Green was announcing his decision next week, then a statement about where any particular school stood might be relevant. Since he's already stated that he's open to other schools and recruiting is "picking up again, concluding from one statement that Michigan is his likely destination is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point. I still think he's a long shot to leave the South.

I don't think we'll land Treadwell, McQuay, or Green.


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December 10th, 2012 at 5:18 PM | gonna sign you up for President (Score:2 Normal)
jmdblue
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Eeyore's Optimist Club where other concerns include Nick Saban becoming Dantonio's recruiting coordinator and John Simon being awarded permanent NCAA eligiblilty.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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December 10th, 2012 at 5:25 PM | What (Score:2 Normal)
THISISMICHIGAN33
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What are you talking about. Are you high or something.

THIS IS MICHIGAN

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December 10th, 2012 at 5:36 PM | MGoBlog likes our chances of (Score:3 Normal)
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MGoBlog likes our chances of getting Derrick Green as well. "They" also liked our chances of getting Treadwell. But Leon McQuay? Not so much. Take from this post what you will.

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December 10th, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Didn't realize that he had (Score:1)
Indonacious
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Didn't realize that he had this great straight line speed...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/i...

According to ESPN, he runs a 4.31 40-yard dash, which tops all RBs.

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December 10th, 2012 at 6:15 PM | Run a 4.31 (Score:0 Trolling)
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He doesn't.

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December 10th, 2012 at 6:22 PM | Forty-yard dash times are (Score:1 Trolling)
Magnus
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Forty-yard dash times are misreported all the time.  That makes him almost Chris Johnson fast as a high schooler.  Yeah...it's not accurate.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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December 10th, 2012 at 8:37 PM | With a 30 mph tailwind. No (Score:0 Trolling)
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With a 30 mph tailwind.

No way his film shows 4.31 speed.

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December 10th, 2012 at 11:46 PM | Green reminds me a little of (Score:0 Trolling)
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Green reminds me a little of Chris Perry...but bigger and possibly faster too.

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