rundown of Michigan's riser
Rivals Headline Re Derrick Green (Good)
Magnus,
If Green commits, is the probability of him redshirting all but certain out the window?
I can't think of a single big-time RB recruit that has redshirted in recent history (other than due to injury). If RBs are any good, they tend to be ready straight out of high school. And we could certainly use him.
I think there's only about a 5% chance that Green redshirts, and that 5% is because he might get injured.
I'd really like a Hello post soon from one of the big names left on our recruiting boards. It seems like we only get Goodbye posts recently. I guess this is the price we pay for an 8 commitment day in early spring.
OH-HOW-I-HATE OHIO STATE
With Denard graduating (sorry for the reminder), we need a new hairstyle from a charismatic highly touted recruit that we can all fawn over.
Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!
It's the perfect time of year to spread good news.
Go Blue, Green.
Green, Go Blue.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
You joined 27 minutes ago and this is your first post? Color me skeptical.
If by 27 minutes ago, you really mean 4 and half years ago, then yes...you caught me.
Otherwise, I'm not that punk ass douchebag and I take offense to you insinuating such.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
The comment my post was a reply to got deleted when that person's account got caved. My post was never intended as a reply to you. It just looks that way now.
^^^Mr. Mario's second new account in one day?
He didn't have a meltdown, he just tried to trick the very smart-witted mgoblog community. He created 2 new accounts. With the first one he created, he tried to make sure everyone knew it was him and that he was posting again. He used the second account to downvote the first one and act like he was a normal member even though it said he joined 30 minutes prior.
Good to hear despite auburn and tenn getting new coaches. Hopefully they don't woo him now.
With the information that I'm picking up across the services (few of which I actually subscribe to), I'm getting the sense that our probabilities on the big three are about:
- Green - 50% (biggest threat: Ole Miss?)
- McQuay - 40% (biggest threat: Vanderbilt)
- Treadwell - 10% (biggest threat: Ole Miss)
That would put us solidly at one expected commitment from this group.
Is that roughly what others are thinking with those probabilities?
Brian needs to modify and develop this sort of technology for recruit tracking purposes.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
I agree with your estimates. That being said, who would've thought we were going to be in recruiting battles for the best prospects with Ole Miss?
I hate my cynical nature, but you constantly have recruits that do not have Ole Miss on their radar at all, and then all of a sudden as they get close to decision time . . . up pops Ole Miss.
The longer a recruit takes to make a decision, the greater the odds of Ole Miss sneaking in and "influencing" that decison at the 11th hour. Yeah, they have pretty girls and the Grove, but they had them in February too.
It may just be nothing, but I am so jaded by CFB, and the SEC in particular, that I can't see the Rorschach test in other more benign ways.
M'Dog
I would put McQuay lower than 40%, because there are a few teams still heavily in the mix. But really, there's not much of a difference between kids who are 30 and 40 and 50%.
I get the feeling that Auburn and Tennessee's chances were really hurt by the coaching changes, because neither of those guys is going to run a pro-style offense, which Green wants to play in.
makes me sad that we are in a real recruiting battle with Vanderbilt and Ole Miss over 5 star talent. Sorry for the downer post.
I don't know why. These kids have offers from USC, Alabama, Florida, and other similar schools. Those schools have already been eliminated or are about equal in the pursuit of these players. We're not in any worse of a situation in regard to these specific recruits (although our recruiting class might not be as good overall).
I wouldn't say it makes me sad, it just makes me wonder why Vanderbilt and Ole Miss are so great.
Just makes me sad that Standifer couldn't keep it together because Treadwell would be blue right now if we had him.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
- Vince Lombardi
not in possession of all the variables.
It does seem like a random mix, it isn't like these potential recruits are choosing between three very similar schools. If anything, they're just have a smorgasboard of random schools they seem to throw out. One private high quality acdemic school from the west coast with a good football program, a terrible public academic school with a mediocre team, a good private school in the south with a bad program, a par academic school from the East Coast with an average program. It all just seems so arbitrary.
~Herm
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them so attractive to these high-level recruits? According to 24-7, they've got zero 5 stars, three 4 stars, and seventeen 3 stars.
Seriously, Messrs. Green and Treadwell, Michigan will be a much better place for you guys.
Formerly 'mgoblaniel.'
The former Michigan commit plays for Ole Miss and is a former h.s. teammate of Treadwell. I imagine that's part of the Treadwell-0le Miss connection, anyway.
As for Vanderbilt, it's a good school and in a warmer climate than Michigan. Their coach is sort of a rising star, too.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
I can see why he'd at least be interested in Vandy, one of the rare schools that has both good academics and a solid, exciting football program. That being said, Vandy's never gonna be a first-tier SEC team. And although it's close to the Nashville music scene, the latter is still largely country. Additionally, Vandy is a very prim, socially conservative place. Michigan trumps Vandy in most areas, except weather.
Maybe it trumps Vandy in most areas for YOU. However, Vandy obviously is a place he greatly likes. People on this board need to understand that different people like different things. Obviously we all feel strongly about UM, but we need to accept that other people don't view it in the same way as us.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
- Vince Lombardi
This is true. But Vandy is a very boring school and most of their students wish they went somewhere else (only there are few academic options nearby). I enrolled in Vandy before flipping my committment to Michigan. There is no comparison at all in terms of the college experience. I am so glad I did not go to Vandy. Leon should read this and Go Blue.
"Football is happening at Michigan... we have that savoir faire." Dhani Jones
I don't follow recruiting closely but I was totally surprised when I read that this kid was hyping up Nashville because of his desire to be a musician. Sweet, I thought. The next Gary Allen or Eric Church could potentially play at Michigan.
But this dude really thinks Vandy's proximity to Nashville will help him become a rap artist? Vandy is an excellent school but that seems like the last reason anyone would want to go there.
Not rap artist but producer. I agree with you though. I am not so sure the people of Nashville want hip hop music to flood the area. That is like when people reference Detroit for Motown. This isn't the 1960s anymore, you have a better shot to be a musician by posting on YouTube than living in a certain place IMO.
3-3-5 til the day I die y'all
because they are SEC schools with playing time available and ESPN loooveees the ESS EE SEE....in reality they will just become the punching bag for almost every school in the league minus UK.
From a pure numbers standpoint:
Ole Miss's top wide receiver: 60 catches, 948 yards, 10 touchdowns
Ole Miss's top running back: 828 yards, 6 touchdowns
Michigan's top wide receiver: 40 catches, 684 yards, 2 touchdowns
Michigan's top running back: 514 yards, 5 touchdowns
It's not like Michigan is really lighting the world on fire offensively. And whether we like it or not, the SEC is a superior conference. Also, the weather's nicer, Treadwell has a former teammate at Ole Miss, etc.
i played HS football in kentucky....and those summer practices sucked, so the nicer weather thing doesn't really make any sense to me. I personally loved playoff time when it got cold, but that could just be me. I know the SEC is a better conference, but it isn't because of Ole Miss or Vandy. These kids have a chance to play for one of the most storied programs ever with a great bunch of surrounding recruits, play for a B1G championship and maybe a NC in the new playoff system, and get national TV coverage. Or they could become a very good player on a middling SEC team that will probably never break through to a national championship or even an SEC championship......the choice seems obvious to me, but I'm a Michigan fan, so whatever.
We might not like it, but these kids haven't seen the days when Michigan was awesome. They have grown up in an age when Lloyd Carr was nearing retirement, when Rich Rodriguez went 16-22, and when Michigan hasn't produced much in the way of running backs or wide receivers.
They probably don't think "national powerhouse" when they think of Michigan.
In reality, Ole Miss is a middle-of-the-pack in the country's best conference. And Michigan is in the upper half (along with OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, etc.) of the country's 2nd/3rd/4th? best conference.
yeah, I guess I didn't think of that...even some people my age in their mid-20's seem to forget Michigan being really good......we need to show these kids some videos of the A-Train, Terrell, Manningham, Mike Hart, Edwards, Howard, Perry, Biakibatuka tearing up OSU, Woodson, Shazor, Marlin Jackson, etc....plus we should show them some video of Shane and our incoming o-linemen. I have high hopes for Green, middling for McQuay, and obvioulsy low now for Treadwell. Here is to hoping the Chesson, Darboh, and Funchess become the next Breaston, Avant, Edwards tandem.
Joe, I also played HS football in Kentucky (Madison Central) and it was brutally hot and steamy during summer two a days. I too loved playoff football when it finally got cooler. I can only imagine the summer misery in Oxford, Mississippi.
"Football is happening at Michigan... we have that savoir faire." Dhani Jones




This is good news... I miss hello posts very much
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