Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Be it an just attempt at a funny gif or not, posting/referencing Glee (that is from Glee, right?) is never a good idea on a sports blog.
I disagree....thought it was hilarious
not to mention, Darren Criss is a UM alum and a big UM Football fan
I mean, Shane Morris tweets about Glee all the time.
might disagree with you
I guess that explains what this is, but I've always found it especially annoying and seizure-inducing, too, without being funny enough to justify.
They aren't mutually exclusive. I enjoy sports AND glee. Why only have one or the other?
You do know the guy on the right is a 2009 Michigan alum right?
Darren Criss FTW.
created the show, and even I've never seen an episode.
for this audience while admitting you recognized it.
I recognized the kid on the left from the commercials and it looked like it was to be supposed high school aged kids doing an obnoxious looking song and dance routine. Regardless, I'm not necessarily bad mouthing the show, I just think it doesn't pair well with sports.
Nothing personal--and I'm only speaking for myself--but that's probably the single most annoying gif that anyone posts around here.
in particular overused that much.
However, I cannot stand incredibly short gifs like this. I have to watch it 12-15 times just to figure out what is going on. Then, after I read the words, I stare at everyone's mouths to see if anyone is actually saying "come at us bro". But of course, the gif loops too quickly and I can't quite be sure. Then I get frustrated and keep watching to try to figure out what is going on....and then I just realized I spent 15 minutes trying to decipher a gif.
I liked it. Especially w the use of a Michigan grad
Well this is certainly welcome news. I can haz manball?
downvoted for being off-topic by not commenting on Glee or this specific.gif, nor .gif's in general.
He can either play in the spread and shread of Malzahn at AU, the air raid under Jones at UT, or Manball at Michigan.
I think Manball wins the day here.
Already geared up the the Hello post and the Kate upton jifs
Kate Upton and peanut butter. My imagination is now getting the best of me.
Sorry if I offended the .gif community.
You obviously were combining to words to make 'jifs" considering what you are gearing up for.
Idk if you offended the .gif community, but you really inspired the jiff community.
"Hey, your peanut butter ran into my Kate Upton..."
"Well, your Kate Upton ran into my peanut butter."
The funny part to me is that my 5 year old calls his 'thing' - "peanut butter". It was so cute I just decided I wasn't going to try too dilligently to correct him.
you are in tune with his language as he grows up. I can imagine him as a teen ager saying something to the effect of going out to "make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich." So many possibilities...
A peanut butter and KY jelly sandwich?
I think you just supplied motivation. Someone get a Kate Upton/ Jif .gif done, people!
as the two concepts joined in my brain. Shutting down and waiting ten seconds before I reboot.
It's spelled GIF, pronounced JIF. Common mistake.
Weird. I always thought it was the other way around.
It's technically pronounced "jif" because the guy who developed the file format says that's how it should be pronounced.
According to Steve Wilhite, the creator of the GIF format, the original pronunciation deliberately echoes the American peanut butter brand, Jif, and the employees of CompuServe would often say "Choosy developers choose GIF", spoofing this brand's television commercials.
Personally I don't care what he says, it looks like hard-G GIF to me.
And Kobe Bryant's dad wanted his son's name to be pronounced "Ko-Bay", like the steak, but no one does.
I think most people pronounce it with a hard G.
And no matter what Darius Rucker says he's Hootie, and the rest of the guys in the band are the Blowfish.
I take issue with that statement. I hear people make pronunciation mistakes all the time, it doesn't make them correct.
Nor does using a collective noun in place of a singular one
Apparently the guy who created the format declared that it was pronounced "jif" but the vast majority of the nerd community immediately ignored him. Near as I can tell, pronouncing the hard g is almost universal.
As a mom, this is my favorite Kate Upton jiff.
You can't have one without the other.
I'm pretty sure he meant something like this
Always creamy. Always. Nobody wants a chunky Kate Upton (except the walruses).
She's a peanut butter face. Ha ha ha
you win today.
Uh, yeah... But I AM laughing my ass off on this one!
Nice cans. Of Jiff.
Don't forget about Shallman.
I think the common prediction is that he's mostly a FB and not really an every down RB.
That is the common prediction but Hoke told Shallman that he will get a shot at RB. Until, Hoke switches him to FB or DE, I am counting him as a RB recruit.
but Shallman will not end up as an RB at Michigan just like Cam Gordon was not going to end up at WR.
I agree. Or if he does play running back, he'll never see the field.
You guys are forgetting about Mr. Peyton Hillis.
Edit: see below - and Brandon Jacobs.
I have no idea what Peyton Hillis and Shallman have to do with each other.
But yes, Brandon Jacobs is huge and a running back. And so was Christian Okoye about 20 years ago. I guess since there are 1 or 2 every 20 years, then Shallman will be destined to repeat their success.
said he was going to be a Heisman trophy winner. What I am saying, is that if the coaches think he could play RB, saying that he's only capable of being a FB might not be correct.
I thought they might mean that too, when they first came in, but then they told Blake Bars he was being recruited as a Tackle. He'll get a shot at RB, and get beat out for the job and be a great FB.
totally possible and the coaches may already have a plan in place for where they want him - they may fully anticipate him not being able to "make it" as a RB, which is totally possible as he does fit the FB mold in terms of numbers.
Peyton Hillis was pretty much a FB at Arkansas.
had a breakout year in Cleveland as a RB.
Point of the story, you can't totally write off a guy because he's a big bruiser.
I don't think anyone is writing Shallman off because he's a big bruiser.
Personally, I'm writing him off (as a tailback) because he's not very good at running the ball. And he didn't play much RB his senior year. CC's coaches obviously thought he was more valuable to them on defense, but it's not often that a kid who doesn't play a skill position in high school ends up as a Big Ten running back.
Regardless of what people here predict or think he would be suited for, the coaches and Shallman are in agreement that he's a running back. So there's that.
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Common prediction? By whom? Not a single person I consider reputable has predicted Shallman plays running back. Some have insisted RB while others have predicted DE, but no one other than random internet guy has said anything about fullback.
Really, only "random internet guys" have predicted DE, either. If we're talking about FACTS, then Michigan's coaches have recruited Shallman as a tailback. And that's what the Shallman people insist that he'll play in college.
Lots of people - recruiting analysts, random internet guys, etc. - have predicted fullback, H-back, defensive end, etc.
Personally, I don't think he'll end up as a true fullback in the sense that John McColgan and Joey Kerridge are/were fullbacks. If he plays a fullback-like position, it will probably be as an H-back type like Aaron Shea played.
Well that's not true - I've read interviews with Shallman where he says he's talked with the coaches about playing defense at Michigan. And considering he spent the entire season at DE for his team, that seems like the most likely destination to me. That's also what Brian is predicting, and although he is certainly an internet guy, he's not exactly random.
When Shallman committed 10 months ago, the Shallman people insisted he was purely a tailback, but that story has changed some. Fullback, however, has been purely random internet guy who thinks Shallman is too big to be a ball carrier.
I'm not saying they haven't talked about playing defense. But they've told him that he'll get a chance to play running back.
This makes up for the double Devin Gardner on CBSSports 2013 Heisman Watchlist post!
The prospect of Green, Smith, and Shallman toting the rock makes me happy. Converting 3rd and 1 won't be as difficult with this RB lineup.
I seriously have no idea how I missed that. Epic fail. I blame Monday, but really, I blame my inability to read, apparently.
Starting to get excited about MANBALL.
Your sins are forgiven and are especially absolved by your Blues Clues magic. Do not sweat it. Mondays suck.
What about Drake Johnson? Why isn't he being mentioned more in the backfield mix?
Most people don't think he's that great of a prospect...
practice press conference as one of the freshmen who impressed him? Can't find a transcript...
Hoke said something like "We like what we've seen from him." That's not bad news, obviously, but it's not a ringing endorsement, either. They liked what they had seen from Thomas Rawls, too, and he's clearly still a work in progress.
You beat me before my due diligence update. It was in response to a question after Hoke said he'd wouldn't mind the NCAA allowing redshirt freshmen to play in bowl games. Someone asked if he had anyone in mind, and he said, "Maybe. Maybe. We like what Drake's done to this point..."
This eases the pain of Monday morning.
is Derrick Green in our backfield in 2013.,
Did he mention a timeline/announcement date?
I believe he doesn't have a specific date, it's just whenever he feels like he is comfortable enough to make a decision. So he could commit at any time before national signing day.
He said it could drag out all the way until NSD...
Army or Under Armour?
Since we are getting so close to those games, I'm wondering if he doesn't pick a hat on national TV.
Army All-American game
The Army game.
The Army game is January 5, for what that's worth.
a candidate to enroll early?
He wants to take all of his official visits.
of Kyle Bosch
I swear, it was just posted last week that he was going to enroll early, obviously mistaken.
You're not the only one. I thought he was enrolling early as well. That's why I assumed his decision has to be coming soon. I guess not.
Leon McQuay is planning to enroll early, but not Green. Green has always been planning to graduate high school at the regular time.
that his earlier intentions were to enroll early.
Maybe you were thinking of Ty Isaac? Although that's not happening anymore.
If some of these other others (oline, McQuay - sp?) want to commit, do you think the coaches hold a scholarship for Green all the way until NSD?
I'm glad you posted the "good" in your title. There has been so much bad recruiting news lately I'm just happy to get through the day without losing another recruit. This is indeed, very good news.
Upvote. Getting would be legend....
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Only one reasonable response here.
This is good news... I miss hello posts very much
If Green commits, is the probability of him redshirting all but certain out the window?
I can't think of a single big-time RB recruit that has redshirted in recent history (other than due to injury). If RBs are any good, they tend to be ready straight out of high school. And we could certainly use him.
Kelly Baraka :(
I think there's only about a 5% chance that Green redshirts, and that 5% is because he might get injured.
I'd really like a Hello post soon from one of the big names left on our recruiting boards. It seems like we only get Goodbye posts recently. I guess this is the price we pay for an 8 commitment day in early spring.
With Denard graduating (sorry for the reminder), we need a new hairstyle from a charismatic highly touted recruit that we can all fawn over.
It's the perfect time of year to spread good news.
Go Blue, Green.
Green, Go Blue.
Hello Mr. Mario. Back so soon?
You joined 27 minutes ago and this is your first post? Color me skeptical.
If by 27 minutes ago, you really mean 4 and half years ago, then yes...you caught me.
Otherwise, I'm not that punk ass douchebag and I take offense to you insinuating such.
^^^Mr. Mario's second new account in one day?
I missed the Mr. Mario meltdown, story?
He didn't have a meltdown, he just tried to trick the very smart-witted mgoblog community. He created 2 new accounts. With the first one he created, he tried to make sure everyone knew it was him and that he was posting again. He used the second account to downvote the first one and act like he was a normal member even though it said he joined 30 minutes prior.
Good to hear despite auburn and tenn getting new coaches. Hopefully they don't woo him now.
Their new coaches and high quality education do present a threat:
With the information that I'm picking up across the services (few of which I actually subscribe to), I'm getting the sense that our probabilities on the big three are about:
That would put us solidly at one expected commitment from this group.
Is that roughly what others are thinking with those probabilities?
Brian needs to modify and develop this sort of technology for recruit tracking purposes.
I agree with your estimates. That being said, who would've thought we were going to be in recruiting battles for the best prospects with Ole Miss?
I hate my cynical nature, but you constantly have recruits that do not have Ole Miss on their radar at all, and then all of a sudden as they get close to decision time . . . up pops Ole Miss.
The longer a recruit takes to make a decision, the greater the odds of Ole Miss sneaking in and "influencing" that decison at the 11th hour. Yeah, they have pretty girls and the Grove, but they had them in February too.
It may just be nothing, but I am so jaded by CFB, and the SEC in particular, that I can't see the Rorschach test in other more benign ways.
This has been said many times before, but his close friend Anthony Standifer plays at Ole Miss, so his interest is not without rational, legitimate reason.
I would put McQuay lower than 40%, because there are a few teams still heavily in the mix. But really, there's not much of a difference between kids who are 30 and 40 and 50%.
I get the feeling that Auburn and Tennessee's chances were really hurt by the coaching changes, because neither of those guys is going to run a pro-style offense, which Green wants to play in.
makes me sad that we are in a real recruiting battle with Vanderbilt and Ole Miss over 5 star talent. Sorry for the downer post.
I don't know why. These kids have offers from USC, Alabama, Florida, and other similar schools. Those schools have already been eliminated or are about equal in the pursuit of these players. We're not in any worse of a situation in regard to these specific recruits (although our recruiting class might not be as good overall).
I wouldn't say it makes me sad, it just makes me wonder why Vanderbilt and Ole Miss are so great.
Just makes me sad that Standifer couldn't keep it together because Treadwell would be blue right now if we had him.
not in possession of all the variables.
It does seem like a random mix, it isn't like these potential recruits are choosing between three very similar schools. If anything, they're just have a smorgasboard of random schools they seem to throw out. One private high quality acdemic school from the west coast with a good football program, a terrible public academic school with a mediocre team, a good private school in the south with a bad program, a par academic school from the East Coast with an average program. It all just seems so arbitrary.
them so attractive to these high-level recruits? According to 24-7, they've got zero 5 stars, three 4 stars, and seventeen 3 stars.
Seriously, Messrs. Green and Treadwell, Michigan will be a much better place for you guys.
The former Michigan commit plays for Ole Miss and is a former h.s. teammate of Treadwell. I imagine that's part of the Treadwell-0le Miss connection, anyway.
As for Vanderbilt, it's a good school and in a warmer climate than Michigan. Their coach is sort of a rising star, too.
I can see why he'd at least be interested in Vandy, one of the rare schools that has both good academics and a solid, exciting football program. That being said, Vandy's never gonna be a first-tier SEC team. And although it's close to the Nashville music scene, the latter is still largely country. Additionally, Vandy is a very prim, socially conservative place. Michigan trumps Vandy in most areas, except weather.
Maybe it trumps Vandy in most areas for YOU. However, Vandy obviously is a place he greatly likes. People on this board need to understand that different people like different things. Obviously we all feel strongly about UM, but we need to accept that other people don't view it in the same way as us.
This is true. But Vandy is a very boring school and most of their students wish they went somewhere else (only there are few academic options nearby). I enrolled in Vandy before flipping my committment to Michigan. There is no comparison at all in terms of the college experience. I am so glad I did not go to Vandy. Leon should read this and Go Blue.
I don't follow recruiting closely but I was totally surprised when I read that this kid was hyping up Nashville because of his desire to be a musician. Sweet, I thought. The next Gary Allen or Eric Church could potentially play at Michigan.
But this dude really thinks Vandy's proximity to Nashville will help him become a rap artist? Vandy is an excellent school but that seems like the last reason anyone would want to go there.
Not rap artist but producer. I agree with you though. I am not so sure the people of Nashville want hip hop music to flood the area. That is like when people reference Detroit for Motown. This isn't the 1960s anymore, you have a better shot to be a musician by posting on YouTube than living in a certain place IMO.
because they are SEC schools with playing time available and ESPN loooveees the ESS EE SEE....in reality they will just become the punching bag for almost every school in the league minus UK.
From a pure numbers standpoint:
Ole Miss's top wide receiver: 60 catches, 948 yards, 10 touchdowns
Ole Miss's top running back: 828 yards, 6 touchdowns
Michigan's top wide receiver: 40 catches, 684 yards, 2 touchdowns
Michigan's top running back: 514 yards, 5 touchdowns
It's not like Michigan is really lighting the world on fire offensively. And whether we like it or not, the SEC is a superior conference. Also, the weather's nicer, Treadwell has a former teammate at Ole Miss, etc.
i played HS football in kentucky....and those summer practices sucked, so the nicer weather thing doesn't really make any sense to me. I personally loved playoff time when it got cold, but that could just be me. I know the SEC is a better conference, but it isn't because of Ole Miss or Vandy. These kids have a chance to play for one of the most storied programs ever with a great bunch of surrounding recruits, play for a B1G championship and maybe a NC in the new playoff system, and get national TV coverage. Or they could become a very good player on a middling SEC team that will probably never break through to a national championship or even an SEC championship......the choice seems obvious to me, but I'm a Michigan fan, so whatever.
We might not like it, but these kids haven't seen the days when Michigan was awesome. They have grown up in an age when Lloyd Carr was nearing retirement, when Rich Rodriguez went 16-22, and when Michigan hasn't produced much in the way of running backs or wide receivers.
They probably don't think "national powerhouse" when they think of Michigan.
In reality, Ole Miss is a middle-of-the-pack in the country's best conference. And Michigan is in the upper half (along with OSU, Wisconsin, MSU, etc.) of the country's 2nd/3rd/4th? best conference.
yeah, I guess I didn't think of that...even some people my age in their mid-20's seem to forget Michigan being really good......we need to show these kids some videos of the A-Train, Terrell, Manningham, Mike Hart, Edwards, Howard, Perry, Biakibatuka tearing up OSU, Woodson, Shazor, Marlin Jackson, etc....plus we should show them some video of Shane and our incoming o-linemen. I have high hopes for Green, middling for McQuay, and obvioulsy low now for Treadwell. Here is to hoping the Chesson, Darboh, and Funchess become the next Breaston, Avant, Edwards tandem.
Joe, I also played HS football in Kentucky (Madison Central) and it was brutally hot and steamy during summer two a days. I too loved playoff football when it finally got cooler. I can only imagine the summer misery in Oxford, Mississippi.
I know this is now way OT.....but you played at Central? I played at Lexington Christian from 03-06...did you by any chance play under Paul Rains before he left for LCA? Just wondering because he was my coach....great guy, great coach.
Oh, I am afraid I am quite a few years before you. Ed Miracle was coach at Central when I played. A genuine piece of work, and not in a good way.
but Treadwell and Green would be serious talent upgrades in both positions for us. With what our offensive line would look like in 2014 (maybe even late 2013), I would imagine that'd be a draw for both a receiver and a running back (more time for the QB to throw in the pocket and more holes to punch through). It seems like it would be a great opportunity to be an offensive skill position player.
I know the SEC is a better conference than the B1G at the moment, but I expect that disparity to close at least a bit with a resurgent Michigan.
It does makes me wish we'd been able to keep hold of Standifer, though.
"Our offensive line is going to be good" is not as good of an argument as "Our offensive line is already good and will continue to be."
I'm not saying Ole Miss and other schools can make that pitch, but WE all think about the 2014 offensive line because we're fans and that's what we do. These kids want to see production on the field, not just hypotheticals. Alabama can recruit stud after stud because they've seen good offensive lines and the stud running backs running behind them.
I also thought Treadwell established a decent relationship with Shane Morris. Nothing better than a WR being comfortable with his QB especially if you are the same age/grade.
We also ran a completely different offense before Nebraska.
Next year the RB will be relied on much muck more, and WRs like Roundtree magically started showing up when Gardner was at QB.
Dont forget Robert Nkemdiche, while not a M target the #1 player is considering Ole Miss and Georgia. Momma wants him to go to Ole Miss to play with his brother but its probably a 70/30 shot that Georgia ends up with him.
Channeling my Inner Nate Silver:
Just because they are good friends doesn't mean they will attend the same college. There are plenty of examples.
But it don't hoit!!
we don't usually see an example like this where it's so close to signing day and both players are down to a few schools, I think in this situation it helps quite a bit, especially since the 2 positions are so reliant on each other
You're right - in most examples, guys who say they want to play together end up choosing different schools for a variety of reasons.
However, this situation isn't typical. These are two guys who have their favorites narrowed down pretty far, with one school in common, and that one school is the leader for both kids late in the process.
It's one thing to say in April that you want to play in college with your buddy. It's another to talk to your buddy, realize you're both favoring the same school in December, and decide that that's enough to push it over the edge.
i'm not surprised. if green comes here, he would be running behind what should become one of the best, if not the best offensive line in the country in a couple years. he should see immediate playing time, too, if he lives up to his billing. if he can improve his overall speed, especially his breakaway speed, i can't imagine what he'll be able to accomplish.
Magnus (or any other film watcher), care to compare Green vs. Greg Bryant (recent ND commit)? I'm curious since you seem to have been a bit skeptical re: Green even though he's the #1 ranked RB in some circles.
I'm skeptical in that I don't think Green is the #1 running back in the country. I do think that he can be a good running back.
Bryant is a little more like Cierre Wood who's currently at Notre Dame. I don't think he's going to blow people away with his speed, but he's fairly shifty, fairly powerful, and fairly fast. He's more physically developed than Wood was coming out of high school, though, so I imagine Bryant will be a bigger version.
Green is a little more like Montee Ball. A straight-ahead bruiser who has improved his balance in the past year. My biggest knock on Green has been his inability to keep his feet through contact, which was a HUGE problem as a junior. His senior film is much better, in my opinion.
Well, Green=Montee Ball= WIN! Can't complain about Montee Ball!
Magnus, thank you for that insight. I, and many other posters I would assume, really appreciate your insight and analysis with respect to specific players. I try to follow as much as I can, but I just don't have the time to be able to follow all of the different recruits. It's great to have a (informed) poster who can shed some light and make comparisons on specific players.
TL; DR -- Thanks
Thanks for the compliments.
With the OL Green would be running behind, Ball comparisons are more than welcome.
an elite WR. This class has all the makings of a great future, but Hoke needs to show me some skills players. Stribling will be a great surprise though. He will be a stud at UM.
Deveon Smith isn't bad.
he may very well be, but hoke needs to be able to land those julio jones/trent richardson types of skill players. he's shown the ability to land elite defensive guys, but as far as offensive skill players, outside of morris, he doesn't have anyone. i know, recruit stars aren't everything, but you still need to land some of those guys. fortunately, it looks like michigan has the inside lane to green's commitment.
Steller D with an average O= LSU.
We could do worse if we had to go that route.
When I hear stellar D and average O, it makes me think about 1997.
So far he has only completed one full recruiting cycle. For 2012 and 2013 so far, at skill positions we have 1 5 Star, 4 4 stars, and are the favorites for another 5 star and have a decent shot another 5 star. This has been during a period of recruiting where we have been heavily focused on rebuilding the OL and defense. Criticism that Hoke can't recruit skill position players is stupid.
It's great that we have our QB of the future and all, but I agree that our talent at RB/WR needs some work. LSU, Bama, etc. still have very talented players at these positions even if they are not hyper productive.
The days of a Roundtree level player as our pseudo-primary receiver need to end. I know our interior line was brutal at times this year, but it's obvious to me that we need better talent at RB to succeed in a manball offense.
for the thread but a guy with Michigan ties who recently worked with GM, Cam Cameron, is on the market...Hmmm... The Gorgeous One might be a little worried...or not
It would be nice to get some good recruiting news, on a side note A and M picked up Seals Jones that puts them up to 33 commits. How is that possible?
They're in the SEC now.
"If ya run with the dogs, ya get the fleas. And distemper."
~ Someone older than Herm
I appreciate you using the Herm-approved squiqqly (~) rather than a dash (-) when doing the name thing.
Actually they are allowed to use the Big 12 rules for this season so that is why they are allowed to.
the reason is SEC
Maybe we should wait to see how well they actually play before pronouncing them one of the best in the country.
He's too slow-footed to be an effective RB at this level. However, he'd be plenty quick enough for the TE position.
Or a rush DE, a position he seems to dominate on film, as well as 1-1s @ camps.
Curious about the A&M situation and Georgia has 30 as well. How many slots do they have open and how many kids are going to be told "sorry no room for you, best of luck". Also just posted on Fox Sports Marcus Lattimore intends to enter the NFL draft
No threadjacking intended!
"Academics are very important to me."
If Green was announcing his decision next week, then a statement about where any particular school stood might be relevant. Since he's already stated that he's open to other schools and recruiting is "picking up again, concluding from one statement that Michigan is his likely destination is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point. I still think he's a long shot to leave the South.
I don't think we'll land Treadwell, McQuay, or Green.
Eeyore's Optimist Club where other concerns include Nick Saban becoming Dantonio's recruiting coordinator and John Simon being awarded permanent NCAA eligiblilty.
What are you talking about. Are you high or something.
Didn't realize that he had this great straight line speed...
According to ESPN, he runs a 4.31 40-yard dash, which tops all RBs.
Forty-yard dash times are misreported all the time. That makes him almost Chris Johnson fast as a high schooler. Yeah...it's not accurate.
With a 30 mph tailwind.
No way his film shows 4.31 speed.
I really like Green, but I am wary that he is open to the possibility of additional visits to other schools. He should by all means do what he has to do, but given how much attention the Michigan coaches have shown him and the current state of his other primary contenders, I am not holding my breath on him since he hasn't already committed.