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Rivals on D. Hart

Demetrius Hart is mentioned favorably a total of three times across these two articles:

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1153697

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1152732

SIYAS (Sorry if you've already seen ... I thought these merited a post.)

h/t to Haxel Rose for alerting me to an incorrect second link (now fixed).

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November 17th, 2010 at 12:12 PM | So what is SIAP not good (Score:1)
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So what is SIAP not good enough for you?

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November 17th, 2010 at 8:27 AM | Your Second Link is wrong.... (Score:1)
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here ya go buddy, fixed it for you

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1152732

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:05 AM | He will get his 5 star (Score:1)
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He will get his 5 star without question. There are still 10-20 spots to get to a "normal" amount of 5 stars. Of course a lot can change between now and Feb. regardless, but he should be well in the middle of 5 star territory by then.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:27 AM | Who cares (Score:1)
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So tired of the stars....

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:46 AM | I hear you. Recruits do look (Score:1)
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I hear you. Recruits do look at recruiting sites though and it would boost our class. It would make us look like more of an up and comer (even though traditionally freshman shouldn't help out too much for at least two years... traditionally...), but it couldn't hurt us to grab a 5 star.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:46 AM | Thanks (Score:1)
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+12u

He will be very good, regardless of star count.

We have had way too many 4 - 5 stars flame out, transfer out, or not get in (Boren, Mallett, Turner, Vlad, O'Neill, Witty, Demar, et. al.) I have more confidence in Hart. 

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:49 AM | +1 in spirit (Score:1)
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that is a great image for the star-rating overhype-aganza.  i was just reading that book to my two boys the other night.  i would +1'ya but the mods took away my voting privleges because I started a forum topic that was negative toward osu.  anyways, +1 to you in spirit...

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:09 AM | n/m (Score:1)
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Edit: sorry i figured it out. You read Dr. Seuss to your kids. Got it.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:37 AM | Um, Rodriguez is on record (Score:1)
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as saying the top recruiting sites do a "good job" ranking players (though that is never the deciding factor, as it should not be). And every available data point shows that star rankings are a good indicator of future success within an inexact science (think of the #1 Draft picks that have flamed out, that doesn't invalidate NFL scouting grades). Data and even comments from coaches show that star rankings do in fact matter, and that it is the people that dismiss them, not the ones that buy into them (with caveats), that are wrong.

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November 17th, 2010 at 11:13 AM | I think the point is that the (Score:1)
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I think the point is that the star rating is no guarantee. The learning curve and growth spurt that some of these guys end up going through is insane, compared to how they were rated as high schoolers. Sam Bradford was a three star recruit and now he's putting up better numbers than any rookie QB in recent memory. At the same time, Chad Henne was a five star QB out of high school. It's obvious which one had a better college career.

That being said, the fifth star is a source of pride and it does make us more attractive to other recruits.

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November 17th, 2010 at 12:36 PM | I have not seen one person on this board... (Score:1)
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I have not seen one person on this board even come close to saying that star ratings don't matter at all.  I believe the consensus is that fans tend to fly off the handle if a commit is not a 4 star / 5 star.  Obviously we want the highest rated class - but their is something to be said to for players that fit the system, are 'project' players, or are late-bloomers.

The best counter-argument is not the individual examples of Oh Emm Gee Mike Hart/Pat White... the best counter-argument are team-based examples, i.e.: Iowa's or TCU's Defense - who consistently lead the country on their side of the ball with oodles of 3 stars, and Boise State's or Oklahoma State's Offense - who does the same on offense with the oodles and the 3 stars.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:51 AM | Oh, poor "pee on freep"! The (Score:1)
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Oh, poor "pee on freep"! The mean and cruel mods took away all your points because you don't like Ohio State. Or...maybe you were being really immature.

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November 17th, 2010 at 12:10 PM | I just negged you.  Stop (Score:1)
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I just negged you.  Stop whining about your points.

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November 17th, 2010 at 12:24 PM | thank you (Score:1)
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thank you, thank you for negging me.  neg me more please.  i'm not going for a flame-out here, i just love getting negged.  feels good.

and chunkums i didn't even write about my points, i don't care about points, i just wanted to give a +1 to someone, but couldn't, so I wrote in favor to them, liked their post.  you may be more overly-sensitive than my wife.  chill out and go back to M Football...

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:22 AM | With his numbers, I see him (Score:1)
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With his numbers, I see him getting his 5th star no problem. However, I don't know what other RBs are doing compared to Dee, but he is already the highest 4 star. Either way, we have one hell of a RB coming to UM next year.

“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo 

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:45 AM | His numbers are sick (Score:1)
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without a doubt. But when one of the Rivals guys calls you "The best running back I've seen", that kinda lends itself to a fifth star. Of course this would all be moot if Dee would just grow a few inches.

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/dee-hart-love

http://semichigansports.com

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November 17th, 2010 at 2:16 PM | I'm sorry, but now would be (Score:1)
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I'm sorry, but now would be the perfect time for that guy who only posted the eyes to come in.

/being a 13 year old

Special Teams means special times!

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:27 AM | Question about stars (Score:1)
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Is it explained somewhere?

If it is a really bad year for talent will the best RB automatically get a 5 star, even if he is only a 4 star by the previous years talent?

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:56 AM | Maybe on Scout (Score:1)
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Because they give out 50 5-stars, but not on Rivals. Players have to really earn the fifth star. However, most years their number swells up to around 20-25, and he's number 16 right now, so barring an unexpected plunge in the rankings, he'll probably get a fifth star.

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November 17th, 2010 at 11:09 AM | Usually// (Score:1)
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5 Stars are considered locks to be All-Conference 1st team and 1/2nd round picks for the NFL

4 Stars are starters on major D1 teams with positive NFL potential

3 stars are contributors.

On the fifth night—possibly the sixth—a breeze arose.
It was cool and dewy.

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:44 AM | The Hopkins/Hart combo will (Score:1)
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The Hopkins/Hart combo will be very very hard to prepare for.  A truck running downhill without brakes one play and a Lotus carving up the corners the next.

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:55 AM | Hey! (Score:1)
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They could call that tandem the Iron Lotus.

No?

Well, never mind then.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:33 AM | No... let's go with it... (Score:1)
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November 17th, 2010 at 9:48 AM | The mind reels at the quotes (Score:1)
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The mind reels at the quotes Fred Jackson is preparing to describe 5 Star Dee Hart's game. He was working overtime to come up with adequate comparisons when he thought he was getting a 4 Star.

 

 

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November 17th, 2010 at 9:53 AM | Fitz Tousaint = Chris Perry (Score:1)
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Fitz Tousaint = Chris Perry with speed, Dee Hart = Fitz Tousaint with speed

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:25 AM | fitz (Score:1)
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i'll believe it when i see it.  i hope you're right.  so far, more like carlos brown.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:18 AM | A unicorn with wings riding a (Score:1)
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A unicorn with wings riding a rainbow with the power to fulfill the dreams of the destitute and overcome the barbs of the disputant.  Serving bacon on-demand.

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November 17th, 2010 at 11:35 AM | Dee Hart - Brad Pitt's face (Score:1)
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Dee Hart - Brad Pitt's face with Jesus' abs.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:01 AM | Video Embed! (Score:1)
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November 17th, 2010 at 11:32 AM | Ugh... (Score:1)
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Those green and white winged helmets just look wrong.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:18 AM | i like this quote "His (Score:1)
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i like this quote

"His superior change of direction and lower body strength has left hundreds of defenders in his wake. "

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:30 AM | Wilder (Score:1)
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Where is James Wilder on these lists? I thought he was the number 1 ranked RB in the country. Are more sites projecting him at OLB, DE now instead of RB?

 

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:54 AM | He's listed as an 'athlete' (Score:1)
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He's listed as an 'athlete' to Rivals and an OLB to Scout. Although he wants to (and FSU is giving him the opportunity to) play RB at FSU, if he wants to realize his full potential he'll be back at OLB by the end of his career

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:53 AM | 5 Star rating (Score:1)
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Whether or not Dee gets his fifth star shouldn't matter. Michigan has obviously developed some offensive talent into a cohesive unit and a quite effective one at that. I assume Dee, with his skill set and attitude, will flourish in Rich Rod's scheme.

Besides, Texas has tons of five star recruits and Mack is sure having issues making them function as a team.

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November 17th, 2010 at 10:57 AM | Dee has intangibles (Score:1)
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Joined: 09/05/2009
MGoPoints: 1822

Intangibles like attitude, good grades, good family and dreads should get him that last star.

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November 17th, 2010 at 1:05 PM | I hope Dee (1) knows already (Score:1)
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MGoPoints: 6714

I hope Dee (1) knows already or learns how to block; and (2) doesn't fumble. If so, he will be Vinnie Smith * 1.5, which is what we all hoped Vinnie would be but isn't because of his bad wheel and maybe some other stuff.

But have you noticed how insanely open Vinnie usually is on that flare route he runs from the backfield? Now imagine Dee's shiftiness in that situation. Yes, please.

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