Sinsemillaplease

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:28 PM ^

Do we have to do this? I think everyone is aware that camp outings have little to do with performance during an 11 man game of football. Nonetheless, it's interesting to see how our guys do. Take it for what it's worth... or don't. I'm just reporting on his performance today, not making prophecy about what it means for the team.

In reply to by Mr.Mario86

Sinsemillaplease

June 23rd, 2012 at 6:13 PM ^

It looks like I read into what he actually said but when I was responding I felt like his use of "worry" and comment about his projection in college put words in my mouth. Wanted to make it clear that all the usual caveats apply (dl-oriented drills, lack of pads,etc) yet Dawson looked great and Fox didn't.

rbgoblue

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:06 PM ^

I could be wrong, but I think Fox projects at guard for us (whereas Bosch and LTT project at tackle). Point is, he shouldn't be vulnerable to much of a speed rush as an interior lineman.

RakeFight

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 PM ^

Why do we think that this one camp will change rankings?  Is that a stated objective of the camp?  Just curious because given how little previous camps have impacted most rankings, you might be setting yourself up for some angst.

Not to mention this is only the first afternoon of a 2 day camp.

Sinsemillaplease

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:50 PM ^

This is an assumption but outside of game film I think this will factor into their rankings more than anything else. How many other camps draw in the very upper echelon of recruits and how many Rivals analysts will be at those other camps sponsored by their rivals.... and angst is out of the question. Nothing could temper my excitement to see Dawson's mean streak in the big house. I do want to see our recruits beat out Ohio-bound and SEC-bound recruits whenever possible.

Shakey Jake

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:27 PM ^

Odds are he'll redshirt and won't participate in a game until he's a Soph at the earliest ( and that's wishful thinking). Whatever he is or isn't doing just doesn't amount to a hill of beans right now. Might as just stop posting about how kids are doing in camp and go back to posting what type of alcohol you are going to be puking up tonight! :P

Leaders And Best

June 23rd, 2012 at 4:41 PM ^

Fox won at least half his reps which isn't that bad considering the event has only elite players from across the nation.  Also considering the small sample size of reps and that the camera was so far away the players looked like ants, it is really hard to draw too many conclusions.

I think I will wait until the event is over and hear from some of the analysts who saw it up close and personal.

Sinsemillaplease

June 23rd, 2012 at 5:03 PM ^

I may have even mistaked Fox for someone else. There wasn't always commentary. I am sure I watched him lose his last three reps though. Again, take it for what it's worth. I saw it and now I'm writing it down. I have no opinion on it besides how it may affect his #4 tackle ranking with the paid analysts who were there to study the camp and make a big deal of it's results. The analysts who were mic'd up had the exact same things to say....

Leaders And Best

June 23rd, 2012 at 5:19 PM ^

He doesn't look out of place against some of the best.  Raulerson and Dawson are going to dominate camp events like this because they are a lot lighter than players like Fox.  How he looks in pads during his senior season and the all star games (All American Bowl) will have a much greater impact on his final ranking than this camp will.

And in the grand scheme of things, will anyone really care if he was the #4 OT or the #12 OT?  Only thing people will remember is that he was a 4 star.  Can you tell me where Erik Magnuson was ranked last year off the top of your head?

 

TheGeneral

June 24th, 2012 at 1:49 AM ^

FTR the rivals people reported Fox as one of the very best offensive lineman performers today and said he was only beat on one snap. I think they had him #3 overall I'll check. Edit- I can't find that article but the Michigan Rivals site has Tim Sullivan doing a write up on Michigan commits and targets. He said Fox wasn't beaten soundly on one snap, and was one of the few to beat Hand who Rivals rated as the number 4 DL regardless of class. Malik was 5 regardless of class. 2nd Edit-Rivals did not have Fox in their top 5. I'm not sure where I got that idea but I was clearly wrong. They had Dawson as the 4th best OL.

Leaders And Best

June 24th, 2012 at 9:38 AM ^

Fox won his share and looks decent moving his feet and staying in front of DL & punching while keeping hands inside the frame.  Everyone is going to lose their share of reps in a drill like this especially when going agains the best competition. Not sure how all this handwringing started.

If you have a Rivals subscription, posting links below ($):

http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/Rivals-Challenge-OL-vs-DL-I-1105321

http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/Rivals-Challenge-OL-vs-DL-II-1105320

http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/Rivals-Challenge-OL-vs-DL-III-1105324

Leaders And Best

June 24th, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^

Was only watching it in the background while doing some work, but actually think the answer is neither.  The RBs and TEs made some plays and the safeties have to play some coverage in this kind of format, but overall the defense looked OK.

PSU QB Hackenberg threw like 5 INTs so that is where most of the damage was done (although he had looked fantastic prior to this). INTs count for about 3 points I think.

RationalBuckeye

June 24th, 2012 at 12:50 PM ^

I had heard the RBs and TEs were doing well but I was baffled that Jaylon Smith could be giving up space, he's a beast in coverage at these events. I think Lewis/Fuller/Woodard are so impressive as a tandem that after their domination in game 1, SE had to strategize around them to win. Says good things about B1G future when guys like Lewis/Hackenberg/Woodard/Marshall have big days, which it sounds like they are all doing, at least at times.