Rivals 5* Challenge OL-DL video: Hand, McDowell
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1513668
McDowell has an early rep and the last rep: beats his guy off the edge on the first one, plays too tall and gets stonewalled on the second. I thought he was pushing 280? Sure as heck doesn't look it; looked VERY fit.
Hand was a monster. Yeah, without pads these drills mostly favor the DL, but holy crap. Blew by one guy off the edge, and more impressively, bull-rushed a very good interior lineman (Mama out of South Carolina).
The first few reps were of Bars stoning a DE (Carter?). And there are also good clips of Demetrius Knox (tOSU leads?) standing up Andrew Brown. Apparently, Knox did a lot of filmwork re; Brown hah.
He makes it look effortless. Imagine if pure bull rushing were allowed at the event...
actually, i can clearly see why ohio state is no longer interested in hand. you see, ohio state wants guys who are competitors.
When you're 6'7" like McDowell is 280 isn't going to be bad weight so I think being fit at 280 is possible.
I read that he was measured at 306 at this camp.
I'm 6'4" and 280lbs and I've run 10k two or three times a week for the past few months. I could lose a few pounds, but I'm in good shape. 280 doesn't automatically mean that you're too big.
You can be in decent shape at that size for a while . . . but you're going to destroy your knees at that weight. Good for you for exercising, but it might bite you in the butt at some point.
Wow, just imagine if we had both of these guys on the line. They both look great
I'm pretty sure McDowell is closer to 300. He was probably the biggest guy at that event. There is no way a human that big should be able to move like that. Normally you see 6"6 300 you're thinking OT, not a DE. And as the OP noted, it doesn't look like bad weight at all. If he can learn to stay low consistently, my god.
McDowell weighed in official at 308 or 306.
Beat me by a few seconds
<<want.
Agreed! He would be a great get.
I think I saw yesterday that McDowell measured in at 6'6 308lbs
Looks like the middle-schoolers are on MGoBlog this morning.
Be careful mentioning middle-schoolers and flamebait in the same sentance with The Ghost of Yost lurking around...
dang, bars looks solid. i didn't need to see that.
I hope we get Casey Tucker
He's actually looked a bit out of shape. I think when he gets to a campus the strength program is going to try to get him back down to about 280 before building him back up. Good chance he ends up at 3-tech regardless at this point though. Quick first step, but is better in small areas, with quick rip moves typically his go to. Could move to 5-tech when Michigan goes big across the line, but he will certainly play 3-tech I believe at least on passing downs. He doesn't look as fluid out on the edge, which you wouldn't expect someone that size to be.
It has been a while since we have had a guy like that. He is a stud and makes everything look easy...he's just so athletic. McDowell looks like he's moving well and is a very big guy, but I can't exactly say he looks fit. He looks a little soft in terms of body composition. He seems like he can carry that and still move well and I'm sure his body composition will improve in college, but I wouldn't look at him and say he looks "VERY fit".
How about 'more fit than I would have expected for a 6'6" high school junior"?
I can't really argue with what you expected, but I wouldn't look at him and think fit, and definately not "VERY fit". Guys like Hand, Ferns, Peppers, etc. absolutely look fit. That is what I would think of as fit, regardless of height, weight, or age, because they all the same age but vary in heights and weights, yet they all have excellent muscle tone and a low body composition, McDowell does not. That doesn' t make him any less of a quality player or less desirable, but he just doens't jump out at me as "VERY fit" that's all.
Not sure how you can see his body comp looks soft from this video. He's definitely not out of shape or unfit. This is actually his first time doing anything except lifting in the past month because an ankle injury while playing basketball.
That makes sense if he hasn't had much conditioning work lately. I'm sure he'll improve his body composition quite a bit when he gets with Wellman and the staff. He looks like a guy that can be challenged to keep weighht off versus a guy that is challenged to put on weight. I think he looks a little soft in the midsection and lower body in that video and most of the pictures I've seen of him. But, he's a big kid too so it's not all that surprising. I'm sure he'll be fine once he gets on the S&C program and wind up being quite strong & explosive as a big fella. He seems similar in stature to Van Bergen but more explosive.
He'll be down to 295 by the time season starts. He's done zero conditioning. We haven't done any plyo or speed work the last 4 weeks. He'll be good to go in August.
I noticed you said "we haven't done any plyo or speek work the last 4 weeks." Are you his trainer or a teammate or something?
Trainer
Thanks for chiming in here. What would be your assessment in terms of how you view his body type? What do you think would be an ideal playing weight and body composition for Malik?
He's gonna be real explosive around 290-295. He's real strong right now and was becoming very explosive before the ankle and was at 299. He'll be with me all summer and he'll definitely be conditioning. Kids a great athlete
Yeah, he definately looked strong and explosive at his size in the video. What is his weight at now and have you tested his body comp?
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Good work!
Magnus gave me a compliment!
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If it makes you feel better, Mustipher got blown past on both his reps.
These guys look like they are already in college. Crazy
First time poster here. With the recruits we are getting and are in on it will be no time until our pass rush will be like the 2006 squad year in and year out.
Hand, Mcdowell and Brown all together at the same camp. Hmmmmmm very interesting.
I'm not a scout but tat Mama kid like fat and slow.
I thought Hand's sweatband had a block M on it... got all fired up until I went back to double check and it was just the under armour logo. Doh!
I did the very same thing. Maybe next time . . . (looks longingly into the distance).
Do want Terry Beckner.