Rival related rant

Mark Dantonio has said that he would never root for UM, even if it helped MSU. So with that, I say "Go Ducks!"

I want them to lose every game they play.

I'm rooting for an Oregon win, but a relatively narrow one.  One that doesn't hurt MSU too much in the rankings, and sets up a good showdown with Michigan in EL later in the season. 

Then I'm hoping that Michigan beats them like a dirty rug.  A spirit crushing loss that causes the lamentation of their fans, and the rending of garments throughout EL.  A pain that makes the pain Wesley suffered on Count Rugen's rack in The Princess Bride seem minor.  And I further hope that their loss to Michigan sets them on a downward spiral.  For old times' sake.

You are not alone! Go ducks

and I still can't fucking believe that they are any good.

But they are.  Credit due to their coaches.

But playing Oregon in Autzen Stadium in September is pretty much suicide, I don't care who you think you are. Unless you historically suck and catch them completely napping like Indiana did back in 2004, or you are a talented juggernaut/cheater like Pete Carroll's #1 ranked USC Trojans, Autzen Stadium in September is Mordor.  It's where college football teams go to die.

Also, it's going to be hot.

Kickoff at 3:30 p.m. Forecast is 95 degrees, but it will be 100 degrees easy on that field.

and any time they lose, I get a huge smile on my face.  Go Ducks, Go Hokies!

and Michigan beats MSU and wins the B1G ...

now let's say MSU loses to Oregon, and Michigan beats MSU and wins the B1G

In which scenario is Michigan more likely to get a playoff bid?

There are several reasons I could justify cheering for State this weekend. I don't really like Oregon very much because I'm really just tired of hearing about them when they haven't won a National Championship in recent memory. I also think that it's important for the BIG to appear strong against non-conference opponents (I don't care if you think an undefeated Michigan team will make the playoffs. Never put faith in a group of people to make the right choice in that regard especially if there are two highly ranked 1-loss SEC teams.). Lastly, I'd love for the Wolverines to walk into East Lansing undefeated with State undefeated as well and we absolutely DESTROY their lives and put that first loss on their record.

However, even though all these are valid arguments....FUCK STAEE, GO BLUE!!

I would actually extend your sentiments toward every team in the B1G.  Save for the occasional bowl game, seeing another B1G team win a game does not give me any warm and fuzzy feelings.  However, the difference between OSU/MSU and other B1G teams is that I will actively root against OSU/MSU, while I am mostly indifferent toward the performance of the others.

I don't care that our conference looks good, I hate every single team in the conference and I want to see all of them lose.

There was nothing that made my skin crawl more than when friends who were Ohio State fans would say, "I'm rooting for you guys this week"  because they wanted to look better for the BCS.

I hope Oregon wins by 60 points, and I hope the Va Tech defense embarrasses the freshman QB on national television.

in a closely contested derpfest, and then to squash them like a bug when we play them. 

Fuck yeah, I love it. Boo Big Ten!

I'll never root for MSU, but I do believe it is better for Michigan (and the Big 10) if MSU wins. So, I'm definitely with the neutral crowd for whom it is a "win win" regardless. Schadenfreude if MSU loses. (Tears of unfathomable sadness.) Better for Big 10 and Michigan if MSU wins.

Several other things. First, I really don't like Oregon that much, and honestly, would love to see them shut down, and the talking heads shut up.

Second, as I think of Hoke, he doesn't really give a rip. His focus is on Michigan . . . Michigan playing better, Michigan winning, Michigan being Michigan. Here's my rant:  quit focusing on MSU (and OSU.) I suppose if you live in-state, you have an undying hatred for all things green. But it makes me want to roll my eyes. Michigan is doing great in recruiting, and Mattison will take no prisoners.

Third, I really don't want Michigan to back into the playoff, the way ND did with the MNC a couple years ago. If MSU and OSU are tough, and we beat them fair and square, awesome. If we can't beat them, why in the world would be want or deserve to be in the playoffs. I'm not about ducking solid competition.

I with the OP 100%. I don't like rivals. I don't want rivals to win. I just can't bring myself to root for MSU or OSU. I want to see MSU run off the field Saturday.

I was even rooting for Wisconsin to lose to LSU.  Fuck every other team in the B1G.  I don't care.  

Right with you. The rest of the conference hates us* all year. Then wants us* to root for them all bowl season and on big stges. Blow me. Go Ducks.

Us* = OSU/UM, the scourge of the B1G

About 5 seconds in, all the pragmatists here are going to realize they're rooting against MSU whether they like it or not.

I think it is better for Michigan if MSU wins, but only if Michigan beats them.  I am torn, I feel dirty rooting for MSU, ND, or OSU.  I kind of want MSU to get embarassed honestly.  If Michigan were to get a playoff bid, they would have to go undefeated and that would give an advantage over a 1 loss team from another conference.  

How about MSU losing a heartbreaker to Oregon and then UM blows MSU out later this year.  Seems to me, that would be the best of both worlds.  MSU loses, but doesn't drop significantly in the polls.  Michigan pounds State and leap frogs both later.  I truly believe there is a way for UM to make the playoffs without ever having to pull for MSU or OSU.

If we go undefeated, we'll be in the 4 team playoff unless there's 5 undefeated teams which won't happen. MSU winning hurts us more through recruiting and other stuff. Same with Ohio or ND winning. If Oregon wins oh well.

Are you all high?  Does anyone think that we are actually going to go undefeated... but be kept out of the playoff because MSU loses one game?  I like this team as much as the next guy, but

I would rather Michigan be left out of the playoff undefeated (hahahahahaha like that will happen) than root for MSU and their douche coaches against anyone.  I hope Oregon scores 70.