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RichRod to speak to Tulane about HC position

Two stories from sportsNOLA.com lay this out. RR is calling the Southern Miss game this weekend, and is expected to make a detour to New Orleans to meet with the Tulane administration as well as reunite with the 1998 Tulane football team (that he was a coordinator for).

Sources tell sportsNOLA.com that Rodriguez is expected to speak with Tulane officials this week about the Green Wave football head coaching position.

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"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:23 AM | Good for him. Hopefully this (Score:5 Normal)
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Good for him. Hopefully this can get him back on track to being remembered as an offensive guru and innovator.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:27 AM | RR (Score:5 Normal)
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I wish him the best.  

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:29 AM | I really wish he could get a (Score:3 Normal)
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I really wish he could get a job like the Arizona job.

1) BCS conference

2) zero expectations, so he could build from the ground up

3) USC is the only "good" team in his division.

 

Either way, I wish him the best and will be rooting for him to get a fair shot and be successful.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:35 AM | wrong ocean (Score:5 Normal)
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He's be a fish out of water in AZ.  He's ultimately a Southerner -- he wants to recruit FL and GA guys, build a team with SEC speed.  He's built roots throughout FL high schools, is known by coaches throughout the south, etc.  Going way out West would be like starting over for him.  No way he goes out there to coach. Not that his teams would suck, but, he would really struggle to recruit, compared to him being in the Southeast.

Someone suggested that if Skip Holtz leaves USF, RR could be a fit there.  That is more prime RR territory -- right in Florida, in a BCS conference (for the moment at least).  I don't know if BC is a good candidate -- really far North, but at least he can try to get FL kids because its in the footprint of the conference.  Yes, I'm assuming BC changes coaches.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:59 AM | RichRod would kill it at USF (Score:3 Normal)
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I think they already run a bit a of a spread there (though Holtz may be changing it without my knowledge) but RichRod could have his pick of lightning quick Florida kids and I'm sure he wouldn't be limited to the 3* guys either. He'd dominate

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:41 AM | I think he would be a good fit but... (Score:1)
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Seeing as he poached Rod Smith and Calvin Magee from USF, and also there was bad blood between him and former coach Leavitt, I don't think they would consider him.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:16 PM | Weren't there rumors (Score:2 Underrated)
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That Calvin interviewed for that job, but didn't get it?  I can't imagine there's a lot of love there. But maybe any port in a storm. Location-wise it's a great fit.

But hey, if Golden jumps ship to Penn State, maybe Rich thinks about Miami.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:49 PM | I don't think any bad blood (Score:2)
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I don't think any bad blood between him and Leavitt will keep him from being a candidate for USF any more, since they too appeared to share a lot of bad blood with Leavitt upon his firing.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:48 AM | Errr (Score:3 Normal)
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As an Arizona student, I can tell you that expectations are far higher than they should be here. That's a trend that is sweeping the nation. 

 

Thanks Thorin/Mgovideo for avatar

 

 
 
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November 9th, 2011 at 11:03 AM | Meh... (Score:2)
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Allowing a coach to go 7 1/2 years without ever breaking .500 in his career win/loss record sounds like pretty high expectations to me...

But seriously, I just moved back to A2 after living in Arizona for 5 years, and let's not fool ourselves here.  U of A and ASU are absolutely fine with mediocrity and allow sub par coaches to stay far past their welcome.

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November 9th, 2011 at 4:17 PM | True. (Score:4 Normal)
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I think that when people talk about "expectations," they're talking about expectations among the fan base, where everybody thinks ASU is just a step away from being USC and Arizona can be a consistent contender.

Among the administration, you're right. The bar is relatively low.

 

Those who stay will be champions.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:49 AM | Who knows (Score:5 Normal)
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Who knows Tulane could be in the Big East by next week.  No matter where RR ends up I will be buying a hat of that school and cheering them on every Saturday.

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:18 PM | Rita would smile at that.   (Score:2)
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Rita would smile at that.  

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November 9th, 2011 at 2:59 PM | Man (Score:1)
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she always made the best cheese dip.  Miss that.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:30 AM | I think he can do better than (Score:2 Normal)
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I think he can do better than Tulane (Ole Miss, Arizona, etc), but he has ties there and may be able to build them up to something impressive in 4-5 years. 

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:34 AM | Yeah, I hope it's not Ole (Score:2)
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Yeah, I hope it's not Ole Miss, because that would put him in the division of death (Bama, Auburn, LSU)

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:09 PM | STOP WITH SEC (Score:4 Normal)
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No SEC team is going to hire RR.  We all think of the SEC as "speed" and high-octane offenses.  Guys, that's Spurrier and Meyer at UF -- that's it.  Aren't you paying attention this year?  The SEC is NOT about high-octane offense.  It's about killer defenses.  Defensive lines with ends and tackles that weigh 300 pounds, can bench press 800 pounds, and all have 4.3 speed.  Something like that.  That's why the SEC has won 5 championships in a row -- defensive lines and, more generally, defenses that are just superior athletically to anyone else.

RR has now proven, he knows not a thing about defense.  So NO WAY does an SEC team hire RR.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:31 PM | This ^^^, especially in the (Score:1 Overrated)
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This ^^^, especially in the SEC West.  

Go to the ACC or whatever the hell the Big East becomes.

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November 9th, 2011 at 3:43 PM | To be fair, (Score:1)
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To be fair, 2 of those 5 championships in a row were won by Meyer at UF, which is more than any other team during that stretch.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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November 9th, 2011 at 4:55 PM | Except for when those pesky (Score:3 Normal)
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offensive minded Auburn Tigers took down last year's NC with the nation's 60th ranked defense. 

Anyway, something tells me Rodriguez will be a little more selective in picking his defensive staff this time around. 

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:30 AM | That would be great. I'll (Score:5 Normal)
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That would be great. I'll wholeheartedly root for him as long as we're not playing his teams. I feel sorry for the teams he goes up against.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:35 AM | That's great (Score:5 Normal)
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Tulane would become my second-favorite team. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:34 AM | Three and Out (Score:4 Normal)
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, this is an interesting development, having just read Three and Out . . . From what Bacon writes, Rodriguez was floored when Tulane decided not to offer him the head coaching job after Bowden left for Clemson. He was all prepared for the press conference when he heard through someone other than the President that another candidate was chosen. That's why he left for Clemson. Seems interesting that he'd go back after that bad experience of being passed over for an outsider.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:33 PM | People change. (Score:1 Normal)
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People change.  Administrations change.  He may even wind up back at WVU one day for all we know.

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:39 AM | His offense could work (Score:2 Normal)
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His offense could work fantastic for Tulane. He never had top talent really before he came to U of M (and ever we weren't at our best), but he was always able to put points on the board. I'm sure Tulane would love to have him back. Great fit for both parties

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | Perfect fit for Rich (Score:1 Normal)
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hope he gets the job and has success there

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | This is finally a coaching (Score:2 Normal)
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This is finally a coaching position that would actually make sense for Rodriguez.  Low expectations school in a bad conference that Rodriguez will get plenty of time to install his system at.  He doesn't need a good defense, though that would certainly be a plus.

His past connections and the fertile recruiting ground can't hurt either.  This would be a much more natural fit than any BCS job right now.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:43 AM | This sucks (Score:4 Normal)
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I was hoping he would hold out for a better job.  There will be plenty of them available, especially if he waits another year or two.  There might even be a couple of nice jobs available this year, such as UGA.

As we've seen, though, RR can let his emotions influence his decision-making, and he does have some nice memories at Tulane.  I hope he doesn't "knee-jerk" this one, and ends up at a school where he has a chance to win a National Championship.  

 

 

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:19 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1 Normal)
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You seriously think Georgia would hire RR? I don't see any reason why other than they lost to WV about a decade ago in a bowl game.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:19 AM | He's not getting a Tier 1 job (Score:3 Normal)
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He's not getting a Tier 1 job until he rebuilds his reputation. About the only coaches who cratered historically great programs (and that's how RR is perceived, rightly or wrongly, and the Bacon book won't change that*) and then walked into Tier 1 jobs are Neuheisal and Willingham, and that's not a good track record.

 

*If you don't believe this, look at the comments on the Ole Miss blogs when his name is brought up.... Ole Miss!

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:52 PM | I don't think he needs to do (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think he needs to do much rebuilding, as most programs would love to take on a coach with 2 BCS wins and multiple conference championships under his belt.

Speaking of coach reputations, UM just hired a guy with a career winning percentage below .500 and no BCS head coaching experience.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:16 PM | I really don't see Richt (Score:3 Normal)
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I really don't see Richt getting fired at UGA. He has the best winning percentage in UGA football history through his first 130 or so games there and is 7-2 in bowl games with 2 SEC championships in 10 years.
Personally, I think the best fit for RR would have been the Florida OC job last year. He would have had fertile recruiting ground, powerhouse of a football brand, and he wouldn't be the head coach so he would be able to just fly under the radar and do his thing.

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 1:54 PM | After reading the (Score:0 Overrated)
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After reading the introduction to RR in Three and Out, flying under the radar is the last thing he wants. He's going to take the most high profile, tradition rich position he can get. Whether or not he ends up at Tulane is up to the administrations at PSU, OSU*, Arizona, maybe UCLA, and on down the list.

*Not that I think there would even be interest from him or OSU, but it did help make the point I think.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:52 AM | I cant believe one of the Florida teams (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I cant believe one of the Florida teams doesnt try to hire him as an OC.

I mean seariously thats what he really is and should be is an OC.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:25 AM | What makes you believe hes a good HC? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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He couldnt produce at the greatest college football enviroment in the world.  He would make an outstanding OC but he is not a great HC his overall management skills are very lacking.  He was fortunate at WV that he had a really good defense to support him. 

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:38 AM | Read Three and Out (Score:4 Normal)
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Read it.  Rodriguez was never going to succeed at Michigan, regardless of his skill or lack thereof.  Mark my words:  Rodriguez is going to get a head coaching job and is going to win.  BIG.  To say that he only won at WVU because of a good defense is silly.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:47 AM | He also won at West Virginia (Score:3 Normal)
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He also won at West Virginia because the dude is an offensive genius and the Big East is a terrible conference.  I agree with Rodriguez winning big IF he can go to a mediocre conference.  If he wants to win big at the BCS level, he'll need to assemble a staff there first that can win on both sides of the ball and come with him to the next stop.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | This is just false. Because (Score:3 Normal)
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This is just false. Because he only win 11 games after the "big 3" left doesn't mean he still didn't do very good when they were there. He still won 2 conference championships and held his own when they were still in the big east, and that was back when Miami was going to national championship games and virginia tech was winning 11 games and being ranked highly. Don't be fooled, RichRod's teams at west Virginia could play with anyone in the nation

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November 9th, 2011 at 2:38 PM | There was exactly one season (Score:3 Normal)
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There was exactly one season where WVU under Rodriguez played Miami and Virginia Tech, his second year.  He lost to a very good Miami team on the slow Coker downswing and dominated a mediocre Virginia Tech.  They got blown out by the other good team in the conference, Maryland, twice.

2004, WVU beat one team with a winning record.  One.  That team was UConn.  In both 2005 and 2006, West Virginia played three ranked teams.  The best season, without a doubt, has to be 2007.  But you'll excuse me for not being impressed by WMU, Marshall, Maryland, ECU, USF, Syracuse, Croom Miss State, Rutgers, Louisville, Cinci, and Pitt.  Oklahoma, obviously, is impressive.

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November 9th, 2011 at 4:57 PM | By this logic, no matter what (Score:0 Trolling)
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By this logic, no matter what happens this year, we should discredit the job Hoke does because we don't have Wisconsin and Penn State on the schedule and the big 10 sucks. Good to know. Have fun with that argument after the season is over

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November 9th, 2011 at 5:02 PM | West Virginia (Score:0 Redundant)
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has 2 BCS wins.

Michigan has 1. 

His teams took down Georgia and Oklahoma. 

When was the last time Michigan beat a BCS conference champ? Alabama in 1999-2000?

The guy arrived at Michigan at the exact wrong time. He'll succeed wherever he goes next. 

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November 9th, 2011 at 3:12 PM | Agreed he recieved an unfair shake but (Score:1 Normal)
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winning would have resolved all of that.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:39 AM | Come On (Score:3 Normal)
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Don't be an idiot.   You can argue RR's merits and faults, but did you just say the only reason he was good at WV was that he was "fortunate" that he had a good defense at WV"?

So he was able to produce a good defense from 2 and 3 star rabble at WV after 5 years with a DC he hired and that was all luck?

His resume is incomplete.  To write off his head coaching career because of the 3 years here but not give him credit for his time in WV is just being a hater.  Go back to Mlive.

We were 7-5 last year despite all the problems if anybody cares to remember.

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November 9th, 2011 at 3:09 PM | Ohh the Hater term for someone who disagrees with you...original (Score:0 Flamebait)
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And you want to send a fellow fan to another site for disagreeing with you...also classy.  I do not hate RR I feel his strengths are better suited for the O.C. position. 

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November 9th, 2011 at 5:02 PM | You can disagree all you (Score:0 Redundant)
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You can disagree all you want, but it is just dumb to suggest his success at West Virginia was because he got lucky. That type of argument would be better suited on a website that doesn't require you to make any sense with an argument, like Mlive or the Freep. Unless you actually have a reasoning why RichRod dominating the big east was because of his defense and luck.....I'm all ears

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November 9th, 2011 at 6:07 PM | Why was his defense so bad in (Score:0 Overrated)
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Why was his defense so bad in 2008? The team had 9 returning starters, and yet it was a lot worse than a year before. And then the defense just got worse and worse from then on. The defense got a lot worse at Michigan when he got here and got a lot better when he left. I don't know why he had such good defenses at West Virginia but he by any measure failed on that account at U of M. He failed to recruit good defensive players. He failed to retain good defensive players. He failed to coach good defensive players. He failed to hire a good defensive coordinator or a good defensive coaching staff (Mallory?).

I can understand that the offense needed to be rebuilt at Michigan. Rich Rod was implementing a completely new scheme and needed new players, and the team was devoid of talent at skill positions. I have very little problem with what Rich Rod did offensively, except that he didn't recruit very well in the trenches. But the defense didn't need to be rebuilt. The defense had plenty of talent on it to start, and it was driven into the ground.

Three and Out largely ignores the elephant in the room with Rich Rod. He was fired at Michigan because he failed to win, and he failed to win not because of Stretchgate, or Carr, or internal politics. He didn't even fail to win because his offense wouldn't work in the Big 10. Rich Rodriguez failed to win because his defense was atrocious, because as many points as his offense put up, usually his defense managed to give away more. You can win against good teams without the support of your predecessors or the Free Press, but you cannot win with a defense that has all the stopping power of wet toilet paper.

Rich Rodriguez's resume suits him certainly to be an offensive coordinator anywhere. He lived up to his reputation for being a great offensive coach at Michigan. But his defensive debacle at Michigan matters, and it is extremely troubling, and it probably will and should keep him from elite head coaching jobs

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:40 AM | So I'm a little confused (Score:1)
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So I'm a little confused here.  1) you replied to your own post 2) in the reply you ask "what makes you believe he is a good HC?" When the premise of the post to which you are replying (your own) was that he would be a good OC.

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November 9th, 2011 at 12:39 PM | Replying to one's self (Score:1)
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- You're not cool unless you reply to your own posts.

- If replying to your own posts is cool, consider me Miles Davis!

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November 9th, 2011 at 3:04 PM | Replied to my own post because (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I was initially flamebaited for saying I think he is a better O.C than head coach.  To say that is not debatable or worthy of flambait status is a bit of a reach in the other direction.  Especially considering his failure to address defensive needs including hiring of a competent DC.

I dont know anyother way to express you feel a neg is unworhty

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November 9th, 2011 at 5:49 PM | FWIW, my advice is say your (Score:1)
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FWIW, my advice is say your what is own your mind.  Some may neg you if it is opinioned based, but just ignore them.  If you're really concerned about getting negged, stay away from topics that related to RR and use decorum.  Responding to negs won't change anything and opens up further possibilities for getting negged.

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