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RichRod and his assistants
I don't think the board will be very happy if we end up with Miles/Hoke. In fact, I'm sure people would rather have RR stay as coach. I feel this way as well. However, what if the stipulation was that all his assistants must also stay if RR stays. Maybe he and DB talked about this. Would you still prefer RR over the other candidates? Just wondering.
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January 9th, 2011 at 2:36 AM | Please, no more.  I can't (Score:1)
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Please, no more.  I can't deal with hypotheticals right now.  The world is chaos.  Even if I would prefer him, RR has taken the long walk down the tracks to memoryville, where people sing hymns of love and steak costs a buck fity.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:42 AM | We have to (Score:1)
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deal with the here and now. I am the biggest RR supporter but DB made his decision.  Its over.  We need a new coach.  The world is starting to slow its rotation.  If we dont get a coach soon, the earth will stop spinning and life as we know it, will end.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:07 AM | really? (Score:1)
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You took the time to post to say that you can't deal with it?  If you can't deal with it, then don't deal with it.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:09 AM | But I like to type words. (Score:1)
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But I like to type words.

Sent From My Commodore 64

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:11 AM | True. True. (Score:1)
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True. True.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:26 AM | i'm impressed (Score:1)
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you still using your Commodore 64.  how do you connect to the internet; the old 64's did not even have RS232 connectors let alone ethernet connectors.  Ethernet connectors did come into PC usage until much later than the 64's manufacture.

Born in Oklahoma
Raised in Ohio
Escaped to Meechigan

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January 9th, 2011 at 4:01 AM | Easy (Score:1)
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Mr. Rogers' broadband connection runs through the land of Make-Believe.  He could hook a typewriter up to the connection and X The Owl could give him internet access.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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January 9th, 2011 at 4:09 AM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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Sent From My Commodore 64

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January 9th, 2011 at 7:47 AM | Ummm hello??? Acoustic (Score:1)
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Ummm hello??? Acoustic coupler - duh... sheesh get with the program. We're in the digital age now fercrissakes.

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January 9th, 2011 at 4:04 AM | Buck fity steak?!? Rodriguez (Score:1)
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Buck fity steak?!? Rodriguez went to Golden Corral?

Who has been putting out their Kools on my floor?!?!

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:36 AM | trying to kill some (Score:1)
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trying to kill some time??

RR is gone, get over it. end of the story

please delete

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:38 AM | I don't think most people (Score:1)
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I don't think most people would rather take back RR. I wouldn't.

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January 9th, 2011 at 11:04 AM | I would (Score:1)
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He is clearly the best coach available.

"I call that Communist football. I'm so tired of it. Good, red-blooded Americans snap the ball, hand it to the guy and have a normal run game or pass game."

—Steve Szabo, Michigan linebackers coach, November 2007

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January 9th, 2011 at 11:33 AM | Much rather keep RR (Score:1)
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than fire RR and start a coaching search a month before Signing Day. Oh wait...

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:39 AM | Constipation (Score:1)
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Of The Brain.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:43 AM | This should help (Score:1)
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How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:39 AM | As above poster said, he's (Score:1)
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As above poster said, he's gone. Move on.

And I feel like no one's taking into account that there were multiple reports that Michigan players had lost faith in RR after the Gator Bowl. You can't keep a coach under those circumstances.

And no, I'd rather have Miles than RR even if RR hadn't lost player support.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:43 AM | "Michigan players had lost faith in RR after the Gator Bowl" (Score:1)
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Perhaps a better interpretation of this: "s@#$, coach may get fired!"

"Don't stop your feet on contact!"

-Brady Hoke

Newsflash, if we don't win Rose Bowl '13 we will have little choice but to lay the blame on Kate Upton.  That is all!

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January 9th, 2011 at 11:45 AM | Losing player support? (Score:1)
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This is 100% speculation, confirmed by no players other than Mike Cox, a 6th-string RB that probably feels he deserves better (ie someone that would have transferred under Rich Rod). So even making a coaching change the same day as firing Rich Rodriguez would only have helped to (maybe) retain Mike Cox, while the cast of finally-upperclassman offensive starters recruited to play in his offense will certainly experience some transfers. On the other hand, starting a coaching search now means players have the chance to transfer both during the search (when there is no coach to stop them) and after the search (when the coach evaluates the available players differently). Keeping RR would probably lead to the transfer of a single nth-string RB while keeping the roster--and the recruiting class--largely intact.

If player reports in the future contradict this, I will stand corrected.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:41 AM | Come on (Score:1)
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If you are just going to make up hypotheticals with no basis in reality, at least make them entertaining.

Either that or share your factual knowledge of Les Miles's outrageous and disturbing sexual history.  Otherwise there was no need for this thread.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:48 AM | If you are just going to make (Score:1)
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If you are just going to make up hypotheticals with no basis in reality, at least make them entertaining.

What if the oceans were made of cheese, and every person was lactose intolerant?  

Sent From My Commodore 64

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:09 AM | hmmm (Score:1)
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The thought of a Dominos no-cheese pizza is not very entertaining.

proud Canuck

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January 9th, 2011 at 10:38 AM | Then we would (Score:1)
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What if the oceans were made of cheese, and every person was lactose intolerant?

Then we would stick with the non-cheese Great Lakes that surround Michigan.

Watch out for that Wisconsin place though, I think they had something to do with your oceans being made of cheese. Stupid Cheese Heads...

New Oldsmobiles are in early this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdGxR-aU6o

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:59 AM | Les Miles is the laughing (Score:1)
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Les Miles is the laughing stock of the SEC.  He took over a team once removed from a national championship (and loaded from freshmen to senior class with top tier talent).  This is not the move to unite the fanbase.  We are just adding gas to the "Michigan Man" fire.  Coaches who don't have the right lineage are going to be afraid to come here from this point forward.  Fans who didn't graduate from Michigan are going to do the same.  For a former CEO this sure doesn't seem like a hire to help our national brand.  All that to say I would keep RR over Miles anyday.

"If the highest aim of a captain were to preserve his ship, he would keep it in port forever."  - St. Thomas Aquinas

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:49 AM | I would. (Score:1)
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I would take him back. The positives I see is that all the players would stay and we would pick up Dee Hart, Kris Frost and others. BUT I would have prefered a new DC. RR still does not have all the pieces of the puzzle he needs, therefore, he is not yet able to get the players he need to adapt to the Big 10. The shortest coaching reign in Michigan was 5 years I believe, but Michigan lied to all of their recruits/players by denying them the chance to be with their coach for 4 years! *gasp*

 

I personally like the thought of seeing how Denard progresses under RR and seeing our top 10 offense get better next year. I think defense is going to improve next year, no matter what because we just hit a perfect storm where we didn't have our best players available on defense.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:01 AM | You suck cock. (NTTAWWT) (Score:1)
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You suck cock. (NTTAWWT)

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:07 AM | don't feed the troll. (Score:1)
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don't feed the troll.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:18 AM | Yes, only trolls wish we had (Score:1)
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Yes, only trolls wish we had not fired our coach after two years of improvement, likely plunging us back into another painful rebuilding process and ruining any recruiting momentum we had.  Probably a Michigan State fan. 

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:20 AM | Is there such a thing as a (Score:1)
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Is there such a thing as a hypothetical that WILL happen?  And if we are restricted to those, then are you saying we need to accurately predict the future in order to post?  That bar seems a little high.

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January 9th, 2011 at 9:14 AM | Er, yeah (Score:1)
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Suppose I eat a cheese sandwich for lunch today. Would I have better enjoyed a meal of rice, lentils, and salad? That's a hypothetical that has a reasonable chance of being true. If I eat a cheese sandwich, I would be less satisfied than by the latter lunch. Granted, formulating this hypothetical has now changed the future by making me lean towards the latter, but that doesn't make the hypothetical any less realistic.

The poster above you asked for realistic hypotheticals. The OP offered a completely unrealistic one. The one coach who will certainly not be hired as our new HC is Rich Rodriguez.

LSA, Class of 2009

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January 9th, 2011 at 2:57 AM | Possibility of keeping any of the offensive assistants? (Score:1)
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I posted this a response to "A World Held Hostage: Mailbag", but it might make for a more interesting discussion here:

 

I don't know how likely of a scenario this would be and this is more of an interesting thought, but if we were to grab a defensive minded head coach, wouldn't it kind of make sense to try to bring back Calvin McGee and some of Rodriguez's offensive assistents?

 

We've seen similar situations play out with great success in other programs on the other side of the ball: offensive minded defensive head coach who has little or nothing to do with the defense, Oregon's Chip Kelly being the most prominent of which.  While I'm not familiar with other coaching situations where the head coach doesn't have a lot of input on the offense, I can't see why that wouldn't make sense.

 

This is all assuming that Rich Rodriguez sits this year out and doesn't land another job this year, which I can't speculate on what his plans are.  If Rodriguez takes another job, I would have to imagine that Calvin McGee and some other Michigan assistants would prefer to follow him there rather than staying at Michigan in the same roles under a new head coach.

 

I don't think this scenario is particularly likely, but you must admit that it is intriguing and it might be a way to get more focus on the defensive side of the ball without throwing away everything we have on offense.

 

Thoughts?

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:09 AM | It's not a bad idea but say (Score:1)
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It's not a bad idea but say we hire Miles or Patterson, or anyone for that matter, that coach is likely to bring most of his staff with him. The only way it could possibly happen is if a guy like Gruden who isn't currently coaching was hired. Even then, it's unlikely.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:09 AM | I would have taken RR back anyway (Score:1)
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But, my top choice was RR with an entirely new defensive staff.  Check that, my first choice was RR three years ago with Scott Schafer and Schafer's choice for position coach.  Tony Gibson has been RR and Michigan's downfall. 

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:19 AM | I wouldn't place all of the (Score:1)
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I wouldn't place all of the blame on Gibson.  Go back and re-read Brian's UFR's during Schafer's tenure.  He made some pretty boneheaded scheme decisions.

BTW, I would have liked to see RR year 4 and a new defensive staff too but to be fair, he did have the opportunity to hire two DC's and failed both times.  I could see DB being pessimistic about RR being able to hire the right DC and fix the defense.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:29 AM | The idea is that Schafer was (Score:1)
Starko
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The idea is that Schafer was not able to make his own decisions because RR's defensive assistents were in his ear, effectively neutering Schafer.

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January 9th, 2011 at 3:32 AM | I'm one of the few (Score:1)
amir_al-muminin
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I'm one of the few that would have prefered Rich Rodriguez to Jim Harbaugh (or anyone else for that matter), but I've moved on.

Can we name Calvin Magee head coach and throw a bunch of money at a hotshot DC?

I'm kidding but kind of serious.

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January 9th, 2011 at 4:12 AM | Yeah thats the ticket, (Score:1)
Bigdaddyblue
Joined: 08/11/2009
MGoPoints: 113

and he can hire Rich Rod as the OC!

/s

You’d rather tame a bucking bronco than to motivate a lame mare. 

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January 9th, 2011 at 4:52 AM | The key now is the staff (Score:1)
Eye of the Tiger
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The biggest issue with RR was inability to get the right defensive and special teams staff in place.  With an average defense, we would have won at least one more game this year, and with an actual special teams staff that can groom an adequate (60%) kicker, at least two.  So I've concluded that even Hoke is acceptable provided he builds the right staff.  I'm skeptical as to whether he will on the offensive side, though, so I'm not saying I'd support the decision before it is made.

(After it's made, like any real, maize-and-blue blooded alumnus, I'll blindly support whoever it is...at least until he has proven me right or wrong.)

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -Bo

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January 9th, 2011 at 5:09 AM | Question misses the point.  (Score:1)
SFBlue
Joined: 11/02/2009
MGoPoints: 3115

Question misses the point.  Can we please just have back RR and the recruits he was going to bring on and just forget all this nonsense?

Missing Ann Arbor

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January 9th, 2011 at 9:43 AM | Hmm.... (Score:1)
caseyo4
Joined: 01/08/2011
MGoPoints: -91

I'm new on here and absolutely baffled RR has any supporters to be honest...

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January 9th, 2011 at 10:01 AM | There is tons of support for (Score:1)
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There is tons of support for RR on here buddy.   We are moving on, of course, but a healthy amount of "us" were strongly in favor of the 4th year being the do-or-die.

"I don't see how having someone piss on my face is going to help me sell Lou Ferrigno's house."

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January 9th, 2011 at 11:52 AM | You're new here? (Score:1)
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Joined: 11/11/2009
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Then let me introduce you to the voting system. When you say things exhibiting stupidity/ignorance, people down-vote you and your profile eventually gets banned by the mods if they think you're trolling. Next time, keep such thoughts to yourself and read the content/comments on the website and any questions regarding the populace will be answered.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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January 9th, 2011 at 10:01 AM | Followon (Score:1)
ChiefLB
Joined: 12/30/2010
MGoPoints: 161

I'd rather hve RR than Hoke.  IMO, RR would be Hoke 7 or 8 times out of 10 if they played eachother with equally talented teams.  But I agree this no longer matters, as its important this mess gets sorted (not wasting time wondering what ifs with RR).   Best of luck to him, though... just hope we don't face him in a bowl game in a few years and lose.

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January 9th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | Hypothetically (Score:1)
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Joined: 01/07/2011
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Must we really dwell on what  WOULD have happened? After the Illinois game, I even thought to myself, "Well, just can Greg Robinson....", but then I realize that three DCs in four years makes that the scapegoat position and no one who COULD fix the defense would want the job. That left me thinking that we could find someone to fix special teams, but then I realized how little that would have swayed the outcome of the games we played against the upper tier of the Big Ten. No, it wasn't sufficient.

People played up the offense all year, and when it was running on all cylinders, it looked pretty cool on the field. If one cylinder wasn't punching it, however, it was average at best, and in a few games, totally impotent for extended periods. Again, not sufficient.

By the Ohio State game, I saw no point in keeping Rodriguez. That's just me though.

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