Rich Rods job security

I don't think many people are afraid of him being booted just because the AD is changing. Regardless of what Martin says now, if we have another 3-9 or 4-8 season I don't think he'll be sticking around. I don't think that will happen, but if it does, Martin won't have much to say about it.

As much as I appreciate the sentiment, these kind of citations (friend of a friend of a friend is friend's with __________)aren't usually received well by this message board. Just a heads up when you wonder why people begin giving negatives.

Provided that he starts getting us back to bowl games once again. If he keeps improving, that makes perfect sense.

The Victors Club probably has more authority then the AD does at this point because they are giving him his paycheck. So, I think that Bill Martin or whoever the next AD is they will have the Victors club on their backs

Not trying to be troll.

my second-cousins black lab is really close with bill martin's collie and he said richrod is going to be the new AD

He'll be back for a fourth year regardless of what happens next year (unless a major violation happens).

Yeah, I think the rest of the gang here is correct. Martin won't have a say in it at all after he steps down, and it behooves him (and us) to talk up Rodriguez's job security.

That said, Michigan has never operated as a bloodthirsty, win-at-all-costs organization and I don't see them starting that now. Barring NCAA trouble or an absolute catastrophe of a season (two or three wins, for example), I think he'll definitely get a fourth year.

depends on a winning record and a bowl game next year.

Stating you heard from a friend of friend of Bill Martin's means as much as Dick Cheney talking about Obama's understanding and readiness to deal with terrorism.

This is my first post of the new year. Happy 2010 to all of us.

So your Bill Martin number is 4, but what's your Kevin Bacon number?

A friend of mine who is friends with the person replacing Bill Martin (who I'm not at liberty to reveal) says Richrod will be fired the second Bill Martin resigns to his lake house.
See how that works?
But seriously, Rodriguez is the best chance for future success and any coaching change away from the spread philosophy most likely will result in an even longer transition period.

Bill Martin cannot guarantee Rich Rod's job security especially since he is no longer the AD moving into the future. If Rich Rod goes winless i would be willing to bet my life savings that he is canned. that being said, the chances of him getting another season following the 2010 season is highly likely if the teams record is not horrible. Whats the logic behind bill martins influence continuing into the future following his retirement?

Yeah, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

There needs to be at least seven wins next year or there will be a lot of pressure to replace him. As most of us know, year four is expected to be the breakthrough year, but another losing season will, in all likelihood, cause a lot of pressure to be placed on whomever the new AD will be.

Well I heard from a friend I used to know that Mary Sue Coleman has had enough of this Borseth guy and is taking over Women's Basketball herself. She's on the warpath so watch out RR.

If his collie eats poop, does that mean he will poop food?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3205543

Think back four years ago, everyone was bitching and complaining about how Lloyd can not coach and all Michigan can do is win 8 games etc... Well lets give the powers to be some credit for hiring Rich Rodriguez; don't you think they looked at the situation and asked why the program was starting to decline. There are at least three reasons why this happened 1) Lloyd admitted he did not have the energy to do the job anymore and relied on his players to prepare on their own. Lloyd thought that was the main reason they lost to app state 2) Facilities were starting to decline which makes it hard to get top tier recruits 3) The weather in the mid-west sucks which makes it hard to recruit against the Florida's and USC's of the world( not to mention they pay their athletes well). So how do you fix the problem ? Look at programs that are succeeding with a talent base that is not full of 5 star athletes. At the time that was West Virginia, Boise State, and Utah. So Bill Martin did the logical thing and hired RR the architect of the spread.
If you give Rich Rod a full 4-5 years to turn this program around, I think we will all be happy with the results. As it stands now Michigan is just a mediocre defense away from a 9 win season.

he gets 6, 8, 10, 100 years, because the transition to another coach would just be TOO painful to watch.

I would have taken the under on January 3; surprising. Anyway, it being January I'm feeling hopeful about the recruiting.

In other news, despite my donations to the program my dog does not know any other dogs that can provide any info.

a winning record and a bowl game (even the International Bowl for crying out loud). Can you imagine M fans in a dome in Toronto drinking Molson or Labatts?

Ed Martin will not have control or influence over the athletic department after this year. RR's employment will be up to other decision making sources. We have not had a winning record or been to a bowl since 2007.

Frankly, I see us at the Alamo Bowl next year. Ever been to the River Walk? A helluva good time despite what Mike Leach says. Could be a family road trip for the VAWolv crew.

Not doubting your sources, but I don't really see how Martin, who will be gone by (or before) the beginning of next season, can guarantee that RR will be there through 2013, which is when his contract expires. Just doesn't make sense. The bottom line is that if we miss a bowl for another year, I don't see how the powers that be will be able to kep RR in light of the inevitable outcry from the fanbase. I am not saying that this will happen - I actually think that we win 6-8 games next year - but if we have another bad season, he will likely be gone. Let's hope this doesn't happen.

In the event we have another bad season it is most likely going to be the defense is poor (due to true freshman starting perhaps). As such, if the Victors Club would likely be handed Robinson to sate their blood lust. I personally would not support firing Greg (unless the defense shows very little to no improvement), but he is likely next guy who will be used to placate alums bloodlust.

If for some reason we have a total regression on offense for reasons not due to injury then it might be possible RR feels the heat, but I have a hard time seeing our offense getting worse. Another year with Tate, plus maybe we'll have Denard making good reads and throws, Roundtree has another year under his belt and a nice stable of RBs, it pretty much has to get better.

After thetOSU game, Stephen J. Ross came out and said he supported RR, and that right there represents a huge checkbook voting in favor of RR. So thereis money behind RR, of course that can change.

So basically , as long as the offense improves, RR stays and if needed defensive coaches are fired. Of course we haven't seen an 8+ win season by 2011 then there is no way in hell RR gets his contract renewed, no matter what he does on offense.

I look at it like this, RR has had two seasons where he had to start a QB who did not fit his system and a true Freshman. The change UM was making was a whole offense philosophy change so many new guys needed to be brought in so the new system would work. Last year we were just beginning to see some of these guys and next year we will see even more. I think RR should feel pretty safe right now.