From the Freep, so I won't post: "There is no bad wins."
Agreed coach (grammar notwithstanding).
Although I agree, being on this board after UMass I feel many people might disagree.
No I think we all agree. No one will remember that UMass game in a few years... everyone will remember...the Horror... :(
Dreisbach1817 may disagree with you about UMass [see below].
On a tangential note, I personally think VT's loss to JMU is more embarrassing than App St. At least App St. was a good FCS team (defending champs, I believe).
But most of the posters here are overly emotional. Right after the PSU loss, I remember flocks of people calling the season over and searching for RR replacements. It's fun to continually follow the team like this but sometimes we lost sight of things.
Just really concerned....there's a difference! (Looks away, wipes a tear.)
I think we all get a pass considering these circumstances:
1) On a 2 game losing streak going into that game
2) Matt McGloin going all Peyton Manning on the defense.
3) Road night game, meaning the majority of us were drinking heavily during the game
4) A blowout early, forcing us to drink even more... leading to crazy drunken posts.
On that note, I'm going to get my first drink of the night.
is offended. sack up, board!
"There is no bad quotes from RR."
We'll take two more regular season wins, thank you.
I'll stick with the grammar style:
"There is no bad Big Ten wins."
I still think UMASS was a bad win. But we moved on. Ugly game today but you never take Big Ten road wins for granted.
In terms of the karma battle next week, Wisconsin is due for an upset loss after another "run up the score" win.
That was sickening. I know they were trying to impress BCS computers (Another reason I hate BCS) but no other team in the Big Ten deserves 83 hung on them. (exception osu and sparty). The scary part though? That was without Clay...
Actually, the computers are not allowed by theBCS to take margin of victory into account. They used to, but then the computers started doing crazy things like ranking non-automatic qualifiers ahead of BCS conference schools... so they made them change it. The horror!
The computers do not use margin of victory to determine their rankings. The BCS does not allow it because of this exact situation. However, both Sagarin and Massey (two computer poll administrators) say that they do not agree with this, so they determine MOV-free BCS rankings and then their true rankings with MOV included. That 83 points will solely influence human voters and have no impact on the computers.
For the record, I hate the BCS too, but this is not something you can pin on them.
Edit: I'm slow on the response too. But here are links to those two computer polls and you can see two different rankings (one with MOV, one without it).
retract my comments from above. Thank you. I wonder if it does "impress" pollsters? Do you think a 6 or 12 game playoff would be better? I do believe that it shouldn't be 64 teams like bball. Too much time away for academics and too much risk on bodies for college athletes.
First, it was Indiana. So, I think everyone who votes takes that with a grain of salt. They scored 24 (?) against MSU, so a weighted look says this 83 was an anomaly.
Second, go with the 8 team for a 3 wk span. (oh, you didn't have that for a choice...false dilemma!)
having Clay doesn't change them at all. Ball and White have had just as good performances this year. The real issue is how good their offensive line is.
Is your reasoning that UMASS is an FCS school?
Well, the potential ACC Champs and top 20 ranked Va Tech LOST to an FCS school at HOME. You can always learn from something when you don't play well. However, much rather spend that film session watching a W!!!
"There is no such thing as a bad win."
I mean winning is a beautiful thing. That being said, this was the first game where i was more nervous when we were on offense..than when we were on defense.
I hope we are done turning the ball over.
Late in the game I was hoping the offense didn't turn the ball over for a touchdown. I was thinking, "Please just give the defense good enough field position to get a stop."
He actually used proper grammar ("There are no bad wins"), but the Freep doctored up the quote.
I figured that he said "theres no bad wins." still bad grammar, but more forgivable.
I think he literally said "Theirs no bad wins". I can tell by the pronunciation.
I wonder if he was quoted anywhere about going for too instead of a point after on the last TD. Their lucky it didn't have any effect on the game buy missing a point after.
I think the our favorite newspaper misquoted him.
Edit : JMblue just beat me.
Agreed with RR.
Winning ugly games is way, way better than losing ugly games.
Watching the game today it seemed as though RR didn't want to show too much on film going into the next 2 weeks. Once it looked like the defense was going to be able to handle their own against Purdue that he decided to keep it simple. I think due to some of the lack of creativity in the offensive game plan hindered the offense some. Sometimes pulling the reigns back a bit can throw off your momentum.
means the offensive game plan gets watered down
Weather shouldn't matter. You still have to execute. Gotta be able to pitch & catch when the weather is adverse. The good teams do it. Nonetheless, they still didn't have the same wide open playbook that you normally see.
RR just pulled out enough to win.
RR just pulled out enough to win.
My perverted sense of humor wants to take this quote and run with it, but I'm gonna take the high road this time.
We had a 4 point lead until probably less than two minutes remained. Even with an 11 point lead a lot of us were tense that PU would get a quick score and then onside kick it. This thing was not "over" until only a few seconds remained. Why would RR pull the reigns back? I thought just the opposite. He alternated Denard and Tate when each made big mistakes.
I suggest we buy the paper. I think based on its current net profits, if we each pony up $10 we should be good.
But the buyer got stuck with about $30M in debt, so you might want to rethink that whole buying the freep thing.
Just as he said that, No Bad Wins walked through the door. RR just wanted to make sure everyone knew.
The end result is an improved number in the W column and the L number staying the same. Any win is a good win, Score.. board..
Did Wisky blow their load for next week in the big house? Lets Hope(pun intended) so.
3-9 to 5-7 to 7-3 looks good to me.
...And I thought the goal was to win, didn't we win?
How are we supposed to jump TCU and Boise State with wins like this? If we keep playing like this, we won't play for a national title this year.
Oh look, M16 taking a shot at Rich Rodriguez.
RR used a ritual snake oil dance in his wizard hat to call in a storm, bad O and a stout D. Wisky has no frickin' clue what we'll do next week. Most excellent.
Against a bad Purdue offense that turned it over five times. Would rather denard et al. Work things out now and be better for it in the next two games.
For some reason I feel like the grammar is correct. I can't figure out why though, it has been a long day.
According to Scout's presser transcript, RR said this:
Coach Rodriguez: “Yeah. There is no bad win. There are bad losses. There are no good losses. It’s a win on the road, in tough conditions and we didn’t play our best. Our defense played better than they had been in a while and our guys hung in there and won the game.”
Works for me! Besides, he was hired to coach football not give grammer lessons.
so be it. We are young and will be a force going forward.
It was a Big Ten road game, in November, in horrible weather, both teams had multiple unforced turnovers. These bad weather games happen and they are not pretty. The trick is to get the W and get the hell out of town. We did. This is a good thing!
The win also means that the team will go some place warm for a bowl game. I bet you my last beer that this means a lot to the guys on the team, especially the seniors.
If you still feel bad about this game, please see 3 and 9, and 5 and 7. Remember hearing the "Boiler Up" chant (whatever that means) in the Big House last year? I do. Well, those assholes can shut the hell up. Excuse me if I don't care that it wasn't pretty.