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Granted, he isn't 500 pounds and doesn't slap his star players, but looking at his first two teams, there is an noticeable similiarity.
He is an offensive "genius" like Weis and Smith. But also like those forgettable two, his teams play very little defense.
Unless Gerg can turn around the defense, RichRod will share the same fate as the aforementioned duo---unemployed.
Offense maybe Rich's calling card, but it will the defense that will define his tenure at UM.
Posts like this make me wish it was August of 2010.
concur.
at least it got you to reply. i am then
always left wondering: who is the chick
in the mike hart shirt?
Rich Rod is our coach...Michigan will be back...end of story! Accept it and embrace it!
Go BLUE!
It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Payne
I will watch and root for Rich Rodriguez until the day he is chased out of Ann Arbor, but seriously I'm starting to worry about him. A lot.
WHY!?! WHY!?!
The above also relates to the topic at hand.
This guy spends most of his time on Rivals.
....and until August 2010 people are going to beat this horse until there is nothing left but dust. The rest of us will be pulling our hair out and on the verge of seppaku.
shut up.
Are we really going to have the lack-of-depth, three-coordinators-in-three-years, young-players-starting-over-regressing-return-players arguments again?
until we see concrete results, one way or the other.
seriously?
Hit this guy upside the head!!??
Please make it stop!
Rodriguez has shown noticeable improvement from year 1 to year 2. The other guys didn't.
When will it end?
Why post this seriously...
What answer are you looking for? No one hear is going to agree or answer yes. Yes the defense has struggled, but we have already discussed this and we seem to be heading in a direction that will show improvement.
It seems 97 mgopoints is an awful lot of effort for a troll to gain credibility. You are a troll, right?
[EDIT]: 92 mgopoints (and, I'm guessing going down)
found some old threads and posted a bunch of crap where he knew nobody would ever look for the source of pointage, building up the appearance of a supportive fan.
?
no.
One of the biggest downsides of missing a bowl game will be the constant "will Rich Rodriguez succeed at Michigan" threads (in all variety of forms) that we will endure during the offseason. It almost makes me miss the days when we all argued about why Rodriguez recruits only three -star players.
True, but boneheads like the OP would post inane crap like this regardless of a coming bowl game or not.
It is foolish not to note the similiarities at this stage. But do note the question mark. That indicates concern, not belief.
I didn't say that he was either of those,just that at this point the trend is cause for concern.
You and many ithers are greatly overreacting to my post.
need to be indicated every goddamn day?
You will get negged, but your point may just be valid if we don't get noticeably better in two years. With that said, no he is not like the other two.
can we just remove this thread so as to make more room for k06em01 to post?
No let them debate the subject, it could become the biggest Negfest since "Members Only"
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This post is what happens when children like the OP get to stay up past their bedtimes.
I am a diehard UM fan who is disturbed by the lack of success under Richrod.
Yes, the team has improved. But considering how awful the Big Ten is, 1-7 should be bother anyone who has followed UM football for any length of time.
Note that I did not call for him to be fired or went off on a irrational rant. All I did was to make a comparison to coaches at two of UM's biggest rivals.
I hope to God that he proves to be different, but I am becoming concerned that RichRod is a titanic flop.That is all that I wished to express.
Those thought are not allowed public. You sir have just walked onto the platform at Tiananmen Square and bashed the Chinese Goverment.
look, we appreciate your fandom but we're all sick of these same posts. literally multiple times a week someone posts something exactly like this. we. don't. know. if. he. will. succeed. we're. not. psychic.
Maybe not psychics, but that one guy's girlfriend was a witch, and her tarot cards said that he'd be fine.
huzzah! but only u and I know. lets not ruin it for everyone...
I'm about to post a forum about how many of these posts we will see between now and the first game.
Are you dating Jemele Hill? Only someone who takes her with credibility would bring this shit up...
...of the exact same in the last 5 weeks...
8-4 is the minimum for RR not to get the old heave-ho in 2010.
That's all I have to say about that...
Wow! I didn't know our next athletic director posted on this forum!
I am officially making it my duty to count how many of these threads get posted between now and the first game.
Perhaps you should keep a tally of them as your signature.
can you count to see how many "all-in for richrod" threads get posted too?
yes, and yes! hell of an idea!
Starting at 2:40 on the video:
| The Daily Show With Jon Stewart | Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c | |||
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Just thought it was appropriate considering your intended exercise.
YES FIRE HIM AHHH LES HARBAUGH 2010!
version of Poole1Dan?
Yeah, and the difference between Weis and Rodriguez being labeled offensive genius is that RICH RODRIGUEZ ACTUALLY HAS A PROVEN COLLEGE TRACK RECORD.
I normally, don't call people names, but you are a fucking retard.
Bury the r-word, yo.
I'd take it back and change it to idiot if i could
Yeah I'd delete my comment so you could edit it but alas to communicate with each other about said plan we'd keep commenting on each other's shit and HEAD ASPLODE.
asploded i'm sure the media would blame Rich Rod somehow
"Rich Rod drives fans crazy; one person dead after his head exploded from watching michigan football team" By Michael Rosenberg Freep Staff Writer
The anti "r-word" campaign has worked surprisingly swiftly.
richi rod is recruiting to much skill players. hes forgetting about linemen. he'll get fired next year if he doesnt get 8 wins. lineman are the heart of the teasm
richi rod is recruiting to much skill players. hes forgetting about linemen. he'll get fired next year if he doesnt get 8 wins. lineman are the heart of the teasm
what about taking 9 offensive lineman between the last 2 classes....yeah....
You are no doubt making a hilarious joke that I just too tightly wound to appreciate, but I will neg you all the same.
...is equivalent in merit to the quality of your post. Impressively, you managed to ignore his recruiting record and make two baseless statements all in one post.
Wow, you mean you weren't riveted to the WF-Purdue game? Me neither.
We all end up at the same spot. Here.
Long live Mgoblog.
the vitriol spewed everytime one of these threads are posted is fairly amusing to me. we all knew what the thread was about before we clicked it, so why bother if its that offensive to you?
and for those who say something along the lines of bringing down the material of the mgoboard, currently as i type on page 1 the mogboard has excellent material including:
best avatar with chicks in it
best dancing coach
victoria secret fashion show
best place to eat and drink in aa
its not like this post is bumping back a dissertation of the new punt formations vis-a-vis return yardage vs fair catches.
lets calm down here a little, eh?
I did not notice people strapping dynamite on themselves and using dead man switches while shouting Allah Akabar over the post.....I think we are plenty calm!
thats politically correct.
/or not
Dissertation of the new punt formations vis-vis return yardage vs. fair catches?
This guy does a good job: http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2009/9/21/1046214/monday-film-session-br...
Brian once did a much not-as-good-ish writeup of it:
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/37972/deat...
Shouldn't need a dissertation, really. Just a few charts.
You gotta tell me which teams use a spread punt.
Here's the punting stats for this year:
To my knowledge, Michigan uses a spread punt formation, Georgia doesn't.
| Rank | Team | G | Punt | Yds | Avg | Ret | NetAvg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Georgia | 12 | 50 | 2442 | 48.84 | 22 | 42.84 |
| 2 | Michigan | 12 | 54 | 2388 | 44.22 | 21 | 40.93 |
| 3 | Oklahoma | 12 | 57 | 2591 | 45.46 | 15 | 40.86 |
| 4 | Missouri | 12 | 59 | 2474 | 41.93 | 20 | 40.29 |
| 5 | Florida | 12 | 29 | 1237 | 42.66 | 4 | 40.14 |
| 6 | Boise St. | 12 | 45 | 1929 | 42.87 | 15 | 39.56 |
| 7 | Air Force | 12 | 50 | 2152 | 43.04 | 17 | 39.40 |
| 8 | East Carolina | 12 | 59 | 2697 | 45.71 | 22 | 39.05 |
| 9 | West Virginia | 11 | 52 | 2352 | 45.23 | 25 | 39.04 |
| 10 | Memphis | 12 | 65 | 2896 | 44.55 | 21 | 38.83 |
| 11 | Minnesota | 12 | 66 | 2792 | 42.30 | 26 | 38.42 |
| 12 | Fresno St. | 11 | 38 | 1701 | 44.76 | 16 | 38.32 |
| 13 | Wyoming | 12 | 78 | 3387 | 43.42 | 34 | 38.24 |
| 14 | LSU | 12 | 56 | 2221 | 39.66 | 10 | 38.23 |
| 15 | Connecticut | 11 | 53 | 2293 | 43.26 | 19 | 38.21 |
| 16 | Rice | 12 | 77 | 3354 | 43.56 | 29 | 38.17 |
| 17 | San Diego St. | 12 | 62 | 2712 | 43.74 | 28 | 38.05 |
| 18 | Navy | 12 | 45 | 1958 | 43.51 | 17 | 38.04 |
| 19 | Iowa St. | 12 | 62 | 2492 | 40.19 | 16 | 38.02 |
| 20 | Rutgers | 11 | 56 | 2382 | 42.54 | 22 | 37.98 |
| 21 | USC | 11 | 53 | 2101 | 39.64 | 17 | 37.85 |
| 22 | UTEP | 12 | 52 | 2240 | 43.08 | 16 | 37.83 |
| 23 | UNLV | 12 | 55 | 2319 | 42.16 | 22 | 37.76 |
| 24 | UCLA | 12 | 63 | 2765 | 43.89 | 21 | 37.76 |
| 25 | La.-Lafayette | 12 | 66 | 2682 | 40.64 | 20 | 37.56 |
| 26 | Troy | 12 | 54 | 2212 | 40.96 | 19 | 37.54 |
| 27 | San Jose St. | 11 | 69 | 2852 | 41.33 | 18 | 37.46 |
| 28 | Arkansas St. | 11 | 51 | 2157 | 42.29 | 31 | 37.45 |
| 29 | California | 11 | 58 | 2441 | 42.09 | 16 | 37.41 |
| 30 | FIU | 11 | 74 | 3167 | 42.80 | 35 | 37.39 |
| 31 | Virginia Tech | 12 | 54 | 2370 | 43.89 | 22 | 37.37 |
| 32 | Iowa | 12 | 57 | 2352 | 41.26 | 21 | 37.37 |
| 33 | Stanford | 12 | 32 | 1270 | 39.69 | 8 | 37.34 |
| 34 | Western Ky. | 11 | 52 | 2270 | 43.65 | 26 | 37.33 |
| 35 | Oregon St. | 11 | 44 | 1842 | 41.86 | 12 | 37.30 |
| 36 | Boston College | 12 | 74 | 3074 | 41.54 | 27 | 37.22 |
| 37 | Kentucky | 12 | 61 | 2440 | 40.00 | 11 | 37.16 |
| 38 | Tulsa | 12 | 69 | 2957 | 42.86 | 28 | 37.13 |
| 39 | Nevada | 12 | 39 | 1584 | 40.62 | 8 | 37.08 |
| 40 | Utah | 12 | 66 | 2788 | 42.24 | 23 | 37.08 |
| 41 | BYU | 12 | 38 | 1583 | 41.66 | 15 | 36.97 |
| 42 | Washington | 11 | 48 | 1939 | 40.40 | 17 | 36.96 |
| 43 | Ohio St. | 12 | 59 | 2240 | 37.97 | 8 | 36.93 |
| 44 | Georgia Tech | 12 | 30 | 1221 | 40.70 | 9 | 36.63 |
| 45 | New Mexico | 12 | 67 | 2887 | 43.09 | 36 | 36.51 |
| 46 | Michigan St. | 12 | 59 | 2440 | 41.36 | 25 | 36.42 |
| 47 | Southern Miss. | 12 | 49 | 1889 | 38.55 | 12 | 36.20 |
| 48 | Arizona St. | 12 | 70 | 3049 | 43.56 | 34 | 36.17 |
| 49 | Syracuse | 12 | 63 | 2654 | 42.13 | 18 | 36.14 |
| 50 | Washington St. | 12 | 87 | 3718 | 42.74 | 38 | 36.11 |
| 51 | Illinois | 11 | 63 | 2522 | 40.03 | 19 | 36.10 |
| 52 | Mississippi | 12 | 51 | 2069 | 40.57 | 12 | 36.06 |
| 53 | Florida St. | 12 | 42 | 1750 | 41.67 | 17 | 36.05 |
| 54 | Oregon | 11 | 56 | 2242 | 40.04 | 28 | 36.02 |
| 55 | UAB | 12 | 57 | 2369 | 41.56 | 24 | 36.00 |
| 56 | Baylor | 12 | 59 | 2517 | 42.66 | 25 | 35.95 |
| 57 | Ball St. | 12 | 59 | 2296 | 38.92 | 25 | 35.93 |
| 58 | Oklahoma St. | 12 | 59 | 2621 | 44.42 | 26 | 35.83 |
| 59 | Kent St. | 12 | 76 | 3085 | 40.59 | 27 | 35.82 |
| 60 | Louisville | 12 | 58 | 2349 | 40.50 | 20 | 35.79 |
| 61 | New Mexico St. | 12 | 75 | 3134 | 41.79 | 26 | 35.59 |
| 62 | Wisconsin | 11 | 43 | 1821 | 42.35 | 15 | 35.53 |
| 63 | Kansas St. | 12 | 55 | 2120 | 38.55 | 15 | 35.45 |
| 64 | Vanderbilt | 12 | 82 | 3464 | 42.24 | 35 | 35.43 |
| 65 | Auburn | 12 | 62 | 2463 | 39.73 | 12 | 35.42 |
| 66 | Utah St. | 12 | 72 | 2955 | 41.04 | 19 | 35.42 |
| 67 | Arizona | 11 | 42 | 1763 | 41.98 | 12 | 35.38 |
| 68 | UCF | 12 | 57 | 2108 | 36.98 | 12 | 35.28 |
| 69 | North Carolina | 12 | 63 | 2497 | 39.63 | 27 | 35.27 |
| 70 | Hawaii | 12 | 36 | 1352 | 37.56 | 6 | 35.14 |
| 71 | Miami (FL) | 12 | 48 | 1935 | 40.31 | 11 | 35.08 |
| 72 | SMU | 12 | 67 | 2795 | 41.72 | 24 | 35.01 |
| 73 | Wake Forest | 12 | 54 | 2098 | 38.85 | 15 | 35.00 |
| 74 | South Fla. | 11 | 50 | 2020 | 40.40 | 11 | 34.98 |
| 75 | Texas Tech | 12 | 44 | 1781 | 40.48 | 24 | 34.98 |
| 76 | La.-Monroe | 12 | 60 | 2313 | 38.55 | 15 | 34.88 |
| 77 | Maryland | 12 | 64 | 2561 | 40.02 | 21 | 34.80 |
| 78 | Kansas | 12 | 54 | 2216 | 41.04 | 17 | 34.72 |
| 79 | North Carolina St. | 12 | 47 | 1743 | 37.09 | 11 | 34.70 |
| 80 | Nebraska | 12 | 66 | 2771 | 41.98 | 29 | 34.68 |
| 81 | Alabama | 12 | 49 | 2063 | 42.10 | 16 | 34.67 |
| 82 | Virginia | 12 | 77 | 3044 | 39.53 | 22 | 34.65 |
| 83 | Tennessee | 12 | 50 | 2057 | 41.14 | 23 | 34.64 |
| 84 | Central Mich. | 12 | 47 | 1797 | 38.23 | 8 | 34.49 |
| 85 | Fla. Atlantic | 11 | 48 | 1831 | 38.15 | 9 | 34.38 |
| 86 | Cincinnati | 11 | 42 | 1692 | 40.29 | 19 | 34.24 |
| 87 | Pittsburgh | 11 | 38 | 1522 | 40.05 | 18 | 34.16 |
| 88 | Army | 11 | 67 | 2602 | 38.84 | 26 | 34.10 |
| 89 | Mississippi St. | 12 | 51 | 1986 | 38.94 | 13 | 33.98 |
| 90 | Idaho | 12 | 38 | 1596 | 42.00 | 14 | 33.97 |
| 91 | Marshall | 12 | 62 | 2439 | 39.34 | 21 | 33.92 |
| 92 | Houston | 12 | 39 | 1602 | 41.08 | 10 | 33.90 |
| 93 | Texas A&M | 12 | 52 | 1890 | 36.35 | 19 | 33.87 |
| 94 | South Carolina | 12 | 62 | 2594 | 41.84 | 23 | 33.85 |
| 95 | Bowling Green | 12 | 60 | 2232 | 37.20 | 13 | 33.82 |
| 96 | Eastern Mich. | 12 | 67 | 2594 | 38.72 | 24 | 33.73 |
| 97 | Middle Tenn. | 12 | 78 | 3042 | 39.00 | 33 | 33.72 |
| 98 | Indiana | 12 | 62 | 2405 | 38.79 | 31 | 33.69 |
| 99 | Texas | 12 | 47 | 1830 | 38.94 | 19 | 33.64 |
| 100 | Notre Dame | 12 | 45 | 1675 | 37.22 | 8 | 33.62 |
| 101 | Western Mich. | 12 | 59 | 2302 | 39.02 | 21 | 33.59 |
| 102 | TCU | 12 | 52 | 1845 | 35.48 | 17 | 33.46 |
| 103 | Temple | 12 | 48 | 1750 | 36.46 | 18 | 33.40 |
| 104 | Northern Ill. | 12 | 50 | 1998 | 39.96 | 26 | 33.04 |
| 105 | Purdue | 12 | 56 | 2162 | 38.61 | 21 | 32.89 |
| 106 | Penn St. | 12 | 51 | 2101 | 41.20 | 18 | 32.86 |
| 107 | Duke | 12 | 61 | 2347 | 38.48 | 31 | 32.85 |
| 108 | Clemson | 12 | 54 | 2100 | 38.89 | 22 | 32.72 |
| 109 | Buffalo | 12 | 53 | 1888 | 35.62 | 21 | 32.58 |
| 110 | Louisiana Tech | 11 | 61 | 2299 | 37.69 | 29 | 32.48 |
| 111 | Arkansas | 12 | 58 | 2205 | 38.02 | 23 | 32.34 |
| 112 | Ohio | 12 | 60 | 2178 | 36.30 | 17 | 32.33 |
| 113 | Akron | 12 | 60 | 2202 | 36.70 | 17 | 31.92 |
| 114 | Colorado | 12 | 68 | 2589 | 38.07 | 37 | 31.85 |
| 115 | Northwestern | 12 | 58 | 2045 | 35.26 | 17 | 31.66 |
| 116 | Colorado St. | 12 | 53 | 2129 | 40.17 | 18 | 31.64 |
| 117 | North Texas | 12 | 57 | 2129 | 37.35 | 26 | 31.11 |
| 118 | Miami (OH) | 12 | 68 | 2454 | 36.09 | 36 | 29.31 |
| 119 | Tulane | 12 | 53 | 2028 | 38.26 | 25 | 28.79 |
| 120 | Toledo | 12 | 56 | 1893 | 33.80 | 19 | 28.68 |
punted 87 times. wow.
Florida only punted 29 times, Stanford 32.
The former is probably a mark of a prolific offense. The latter: very large testicles?
That was a beautiful MGoFilibuster, Senator Misopogon.
But I hereby move that debate be suspended on this thread.
it's not about speculation...
and I don't have to read it every goddamn day...
What you could do is travel back in time, sink Bill Martin's sailboat, convince Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington not to go to the NFL, Ryan Mallet to stay, Gittelson to stop feeding everybody pizza, Mallet not to transfer, Boren to stop being a dick, Pryor to come to Michigan (and to never comment on Michael Vick), Tim Tebow to stop playing college football, and bet huge on sports.
On the way, kneecap Sidney Crosby so the Wings can with 2 Stanley Cups in a row. And bet big on any NBA games that Tim Donaghy calls.
Or, we can just live with Rich Rod.
Weis: Was never a head coach ever
Smith: Was just crazy and his players lacked discipline
The defenses that RR had were not nearly as bad as you say (at WVU).
To Los Barcos: This post brought absolutely no substance as to how they were similar the OP just said "OMG WHAT IF HE IS THESE GUYS THAT WERE TERRIBLE".
If that happens and he is somehow miraculously the evil spawn of Charlie and John L Smiths love child then we are fucked. There I said it we are fucked.
More than likely his whole coaching resume is there for a reason and he's a damn good coach. But what do I know.
i never said this post brought up any form of substance. i just merely stated the fact that a lot of posts dont have substance (the four i mentioned on the front page).
i dont care about the best dancing coach, and thus, im not clicking on that thread. im sure alot of people dont care about it either, thats why it only has 7 replies. people arent reading a thread that they dont really care about; that seems to be a good solution, right? if you dont care about it, why read it?
thats all i meant, geez, no need to neg me.
:(
At this point, lots of folks are concerned with progress to date... but the grades must still be "incomplete" and I fail to see the purpose of spending time wondering how it might turn out. Let's TRY (and I emphaize try) to forget about M Football until next Spring (or at least until Signing Day), and not waste our times theorizing about what may or may not happen in the future under Coach Rod.
Thankfully, he doesn't give a crap about what we're thinking right now... and neither do the players. Given that, I'm not sure why anyone else should care what each of us is carrying in our hearts after two of the worst football seasons in our lifetime.
you win dude.
That hair is magnificent. No wonder Papa Bear had Maury Povich and those other d-bags at "A Current Affair" running scared.
Next thing, someone will post a poll asking, "what is worse: RR sux posts or dancing/chick/restaurant posts?" Who cares?
However, regarding the original post, I see absolutely no similarity between RR & Charlie Tuna or John L. White.
Weis was always a pompous ass who couldn't get along. RR has shown incredible grace and humility already this year.
White never showed anything to me. RR has shown success at every level.
I don't exactly know why (i.e., whether the fault was Lloyd's or others,) but RR came in to a program that was very weak in several areas. Three DC's in 3 years has been an unmitigated disaster.
It is going to take another two years to really evaluate RR. He has to have time to restock the cupboard, and for the players to learn the system, and for there to be sufficient upper-classmen to compete.
Ya know, one silver lining in the pain of last year and this year, and even next year: it is going to piss RR & Barwis & the team off SO MUCH that once they are fully competitive (which should begin in Fall 2011 and be in full throttle by Fall 2012), they will take no prisoners.
While I don't like sweatervest and the bucknuts, I will give them this: they have not piled on RR and UM like some other jerks in the Big Ten and beyond. Payback will be glorious.
To answer the OP one last time: NO, there is no similarity between RR & Charlie/John L. White. And nothing will prove this to your satisfaction other than the games in the next two years.
He simply noted a disturbing correlation between Rodriguez and two spectacular failures. He didn't exactly analyze the situation thoroughly, but that's no reason to neg him to the stone age.
Also, over-covered and other useless topics get posted all the time. If that's your reason for negging the OP, then you should neg every other useless post (*cough* http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-best-avatar-chickchicks-it *cough*) as well. Just don't neg for unoffensive opinions (like the OP), particularly when they aren't even committed too (like the OP).
I desperately need a rest. I have OCD & can't fall out when there is clutter. I like cleanliness. Please help me sleep by not posting on here anymore.
