Good luck in 'Zona. Long live Hoke.
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Rich Rod has officially left the building(state).
RR... Supported him when he was here, tired of his S now that he's gone. Good luck at Az, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out!
fuck shit ass
Vagina.
You don't have to celebrate it, Frank.
Cock, Balls
Farts!
Bob Saget!
I'm sorry to say it, because I supported the guy when he was our coach, but I agree with this. It's over and done, behind us. Good luck with the Wildcats, I'll pull for you in the Pac Whatever It Is Now. If we ever play you, I hope we stomp you into dust.
or tired of fans talking about him?
Seems like a good guy and a good coach to me! Will support the Cats for sure second only to Michigan in my college football who to root for rankings!
but good does not cut it at the school with the most wins in CFB history. RR will forever go down as the worse coach in Michigan's history. Support him all you want, but I will not miss the 3 most stressed filled CFB years of my life...
There was good and bad. Either way, It's over now. Time to stop getting so upset about it and move forward. Enjoy what you have in front of you. I sure as heck am. Love me some Hoke.
It must have been so rough for you sitting on your couch bitching about things you know nothing about.
and I'm guessing by your statement that you enjoyed the losing and mediocrity during those years. Also, do we know each other? You have no idea what I know or my background or credentials. If you thought you were witnessing good football or good coaching then that's fine, but it's also an indictment of your ignorance in the matter.
Regardless of the results, RR gave his best and showed character and class. He gave more effort to the University than you will ever in your life, so take your elitist attitude elsewhere. Michigan doesn't need fans like you.
But he didn't give his best. At least not the first year. Go back and look at his statement, "Like everyone else, I figured this was Michigan. You could just roll them out and you'd win your share."
Just rolling them out is not doing your best.
It's obvious that 1 sentence proves he didn't try hard his first year here. What an asshole. Let's fire him again, just so he realizes we hate him and he's not welcome here
That statement is about his perception of the program before he got to Ann Arbor. It says nothing about the effort he put in after he arrived.
And, yes, I saw your signature line.
Actually I am an English teacher, too, although the demand for physics teachers has always been much, much greater than the demand for English teachers. Anyhoo...
As I recall, RR made that statement more than a year after he arrived, and he was speaking about his first year in the program.
If you have any evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it. RR does seem like a nice guy. I'd love to find a reason to not hold this against him.
Of course, even if he was thinking that only before he arrived in AA, it's still pretty bad. I mean, I would never, ever hire anyone who thinks that he doesn't have to work hard to stay at the top.
Yeah last year there was a story in the news about how he was having a tough time selling his home in saline, and Jeff DeFran along with Dave-in-Phoenix were celebrating the fact that he probably was having financial problems considering his real estate investment that went bad and having to owe WVU that money etc those guys are douchewads so whatever.
Jeff DeFran = uggg.
Words can't describe how the bile rises when I hear him on the air. How can the same station employ Sam Webb and Jeff DeFran?
The knowledge/intelligence/active vocabulary one has versus the lack of same with the other is shocking.
Yeah morning, boo late afternoon.
The more GRE studying I do, the more I come to appreciate/fully understand Sam Webb.
Nice name!
I've tuned into his show maybe three times in the past year, and every time Defran has moaned and groaned about being single. The women ain't giving him the time of day, and that tells me there's a little bit of cosmic justice at work.
Well judging from the fact that RR is still commenting on how it hurted him to see the current staff having so much success with the players he recruited to Michigan, tells me that his mind is still with UM, it is his body that is on the other side of town!
I feel like he's asked about Michigan football all the time, so he feels obligated to answer the question. Of course it bothers him to see the team do well, he recruited a lot of those players.
It was his job and pride on the line.
Why wouldn't be want to succeed at his job, whether it's a current or former postion?
He isn't obligated, but that's not RR. He was always very open with the media, which was probably part of his downfall, but it's who he is. Coaches don't change that much, it's part of what makes them successful, they do things their way.
I don't really care how Arizona does. I have no connection with them. RR was fired from Michigan because he didn't succeed, I don't necessarily feel that bad about that. Some of it wasn't his fault, some of it was, but that's the nature of the beast. I'm sure he's pissed about losing the Michigan job because he left his alma mater to take the job so that he could do great things. He took the Michigan job for selfish reasons, which is fine, a lot of us would do the same if we were in his exact position. Now he knows he lost that chance and has to start over at 'Zona. He is probably angry, he probably truly believes he would have done something similar this year (he may have, but that would have just been patchwork covering serious foundational problems), he is probably tired of answering the questions, but he'll answer it because that's who he is. End of story.
You're on the right track here -- I certainly share your feelings of not really caring what happens to him. I didn't think I would feel that way when he was fired, but I do.
It's largely because what he's doing at Arizona seems like an attempt to prove that he was right -- that given more time he would have succeeded at Michigan. He has basically reconstituted his WVU staff, including Casteel. I guess that's who he is, but you have to wonder -- Tony Gibson is still there, and still in the exact same role he was in at Michigan. That can't be good, even with Casteel there to offset him.
Rich wants to prove that he can win with Gibson in that triple role as assistant head coach, safeties coach, and special teams coordinator. I have zero interest in that, because I already know the answer -- I've seen it. I can't imagine that was anything but a total non-starter in the discussion with Brandon after the 2010 season. Rich: "I want to keep Tony." Dave: "Huh?"
he may also be regretting the decision to leave WVU in the first place, hindsight being 20/20 and all that.......
He only talks about kids that play for Michigan.
He could apply the same thing at Arizona and move on. It not about the questions asked it is about the questions he answers. Arizona will learn to resent it if he doesn't shut up about Michigan.
When is the last time he said something about Michigan? I haven't seen anything recently. The statements that are being discussed in this thread were made months ago.
It's easy to root for him in AZ because the guy at ASU is Turd Graham who is a real ass-jerk. PAC-12 has a great collection of coaches. Can't wait to see what Leach can do at WSU.
It hurted him shows me selfishness..And i supported and will continue to support RR..I hope he wins in AZ but i cant say i didnt get a sense that RR loved him some RR
This was the second comment in the past three that mentioned 'hurted'. Is that a word RR misused or are we repeating words that are not words for no particularly good reason?
"It doesn't matter, it's in the past" ~Richard Jonathon Rodriqeuz quoting the Lion King. A quote he seems to have forgotten this past year.
I repeat words that are not words until someone calls out the first person who used it...so I dont have to be the asshole
We are supposed to be pretentious pricks. Outright stupidity and grammar errors just don't seem appropriate for the Michigan grad. Carry on.
Good luck at Arizona, Rich. In a few years, with luck, hopefully we see a year where the Pac-12 South is not USC and air.
How many MGoBloggers were holding a candlelight vigil during his departure tonight? I can think of a few.
I don't think anyone was holding candle light vigils for his departure. I mean maybe if Hoke did have success last season.
....huh?
I think I now know what Section 1 looks like in real life.....
Ok then? Who really cares? Was anybody thinking that just because his house hadn't sold that it meant there was still drama or something? What a useless thread
Aside from wins and losses, I am forever grateful for the fact he brought Denard Robinson to the University of Michigan. I truly hope Michigan fans realize what kind of talent they get to watch every Saturday. I feel like we are spoiled sometimes.
Plus 1000000000+
Not just talent, but impeccable character. That kid is the consummate Michigan Man. Irrespective of Rich Rod's failures, we have him to thank for Denard. That should not be forgotten.
but don't forget RR really wanted pryor.
Let's also not forget that they weren't in the same class, so your point doesn't make sense
how still has them?
If I saw that with my own eyes, it would feel... cathartic.
Godspeed, Rich Rod.
Okay is this a blog page or is this English/Typing class where everyone must write/type properly without making mistakes. We know most of you got you degree from Mich but doggoneit, enough with the corrections. IJS. oops i made a mistake
to correct your post. You concluded your first sentence with a period when it is clearly a question. This is only one error of many. To answer your question, it's both/and. It is a blog where everyone must write properly without making mistakes. I, for one, am proud of reading a Michigan football blog whose users are scrutinous of grammar and spelling.
No can find in the OED, but this might be more of an Urban Dictionary-type place. That definition is too provocative for most gentle readers. Nonetheless I agree with your drift, and I like the sound of the word.
More generally, if not for RR I would never have become so attached to this blog, which helped me appreciate his offense mathematically and graphically, as I was mourning the losses.
Good riddance.
I actually don't understand how anyone could still be sympathetic to or care about what RichRod does; I will conceed that his time in Ann Arbor was ill fated and that he was never given a fair chance, however, the guy has the hubris to rival Kanye West and he has never, ever, as far as I know, even taken one minute to assess his role in all of this and think rationally about himself as a person and as a coach.
The continued shots at Michigan along with his sour grapes approach just confirm what the RichRod supporters should fear most: RichRod has learned nothing from this ordeal and he will continue to fail (and by fail I mean remain far away from anything at all posing a sembalance of a quality five year run where he stays in the top 25 and competes for a national title).
And to the people who support him: What attracts you to him? Do you care now because you cared before? Because you got fooled by the numbers? Or because you, like I, feel like he wasn't treated fairly and yet you, unlike I, can't wrap your head around the fact that if he could have beaten anyone other than Notre Dame, or not get waxed by Mississippi fucking state, or not lose to fucking Toledo (I could have coached us to victory over Toledo, hell the only person who couldn't have beaten Toledo in that game was RichRod), or not thrown an entire first year or two away because he wanted to win with 'his' offense, he woulds still probably been coach here right now: RichRod isn't coach here now not because of the politicing or the square peg - round hole theory; RichRod isn't coach here and now because he couldn't win a fucking football game... or beat pur'fucking'due for that matter...
I honestly don't understand you guys... and I'm not even being facetious.
It's not a shot at UM to say that he would have been successful this past year. Whether or not it is an accurate assessment is a different debate. No, Coach Rod wasn't the only coach in America who couldn't beat Toledo, and no, you probably couldn't have coached us to a victory. You're being dramatic and hyperbolic. He's a good man, he's gone, let him be.
Well put.
I'll also come out and say that I'll forgive him his "swipes at Michigan" because the guy had a hundred times more invested in 2008, 2009, 2010, and partly 2011 than anyone here did (that includes any players on those teams, donors, DB, everyone) and it's understandable that people react to setbacks in different ways, sometimes in a manner not reflective of their true character.
Yes, I hope any future game against Arizona is a curb stomping, yes I like Brady Hoke very much and wish him nothing but success. On the other hand, there's no need to personally attack or insult RR until he does something that warrants personal attack. I haven't seen anything remotely approaching that level of behavior from him.
How about simply not caring...is that okay?
I don't care if Rich Rod goes 0-12 or 12-0, I don't care about Rich Rod just like I don't care about whoever coaches Middle Tennessee St.
Nothing against him, I don't love him...I don't hate him. I simply do not care.
what is and isn't okay for everyone else to think. If I was going to give an answer, though, I'd say it's fine not to care. I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel like you do.
Get with the program. It's not fine that you don't care. There are two burning issues regarding Michigan football that must be addressed: Rich Rod and the band. Standing on the sidelines without an opinion or showing disinterest in any way is not an option.
I choose not to have an opinion about your post saying an opinion is required.
And that's the problem with you youngsters today. No opinion. Why in my day, we would have tarred and feathered Rich Rod and run him out of town on a rail. And the band? We would have filled the AD's office with so many unwashed wasted hippies that Dave Brandon would need a freaking gas mask to get any work done. A day or two of working conditions like that, and he'd be signing over checks to fly the band first class and making public apologies on the 6 0'clock news.
Toledo was TERRIBLE that year and it was in OUR HOUSE. We weren't good but could have been much better with proper coaching. I was at that game and the entire thing was a blur except for the pick six and missed field goal (a staple of RR coaching), but I'm honestly about to go watch that game and see what went down. It must have been piss poor if we only scored ten, considering we scored 23 on utah, 27 on wisconsin, and 21 on msu.
I cared then and I care now because Rich worked with a passion to make Michigan Football better. In the end it didn't work out but I will never hate the man for trying his best.
Kanye says "that shit cray!"
You have an awful lot of certainty that you know things that you cannot possibly know. And you seem to care an awful lot about things that, in the grand scheme, don't matter all that much. And you are very critical of people who do not share your opinion.
I conclude from these observations that you are a young person. Wait until you get married, get divorced, have children, suffer one of them getting seriously ill, watch your parents die, or have one of a thousand other experiences that make life trying for adults. Then I encourage you to re-read your post and understand at how juvenile and petty you sound.
My own view? I believe that Rich Rod is a flawed but fundamentally decent person. I believe that he tried hard at Michigan, failed, and is still bitter about how things went down. I see no reason to laud him as some sort of supernatural martyr or to piss on his grave.
I will go to my grave believeing that only RichRod could have lost that game. I believe this because of three things:
1.) I believe our talent level alone was enough to line up, knock them over, and win the game. (There will be people who talk about the importance of strategy and whatnot, but this game, on this day, didn't feature some great gameplan by Toledo, or even a particularily inspiring performance by them but rather a Michigan team entrenched in an offensive philosophy change employing players not fit to run an offense and driven by a coach looking three years down the road.)
2.) I believe that RichRods offense was not designed in the least bit around the players he had (this is fact, I don't know who, or how they, would argue against this). In light of this fact I believe that he actually had our offense in the worst possible position to win the game.
3.) It actually took bad luck to lose the game. In a sense even we should have won that game but two of RichRods defining characteristics (turnovers and missed field goals) urged us just far enough in the direction of failure.
you can neg me to death, or whatever, but my original post was an honest question; I honestly don't understand why people not related to, or the best friend of, the man can possibly care what he does now that he is gone. There may be some sick morbose connection that some people carry to the man but that is about all that comes to mind...
over Appalachian State too. Damn, I wish you had been our coach instead of LC.
If it wasn't for richrod, we would never have Hoke, and all we have now, God works in mysterious ways. All things happen for a reason.
Rich Rod...something about not eating cake....Bear Down....this story is getting old.
i think rich rod is a bad ass. of coarse i just moved to tuscon recently haha. and i think he wouldve succeeded in AA if he had a couple more years. just wait he'll take over the pac 12
This thread is making me sick. My personal thoughts on RR aside, this thread has turned into half pathetic pity fest and half no holds barred RR bashing. RR really needs to be a banned topic here as every thread on him always ends up going down this same path. I love you all, but just shut up about it already.
It's not every day that you see an Arizona Wildcats truck driving through Saline. I found it interesting in the fact that I was witnessing the literal final act in the Rich Rod Era. That's all.
The way world turns, we'll probably see the guy again in the Rose Bowl or something one of these days.
At least RR had the balls to give it a shot at Michigan. Many great coaches will never ever get a shot like that in their lifetime. If Bo, Carr and Hoke had respect for Rodriguez, then I don't understand why people feel the need to take a shit on the guy anymore.
Write what a risk coming to one of the greatest draws in the NCAA and taking it from the top to the toilet. Yeaaaaah thank you fuckface.
Practically every RR post for the past year has been useless, but they can still be a hell of a lot of fun. They're kind of like after a bad marriage ends. About 50% of the posts are like when the ex-wife gets remarried, the ex-husband expects the new marriage to fail, because, after all, she's a loser bitch. About 25% of the posts are like the mother of the bride who thinks the ex-husband never gave her a fair chance, and now that she has a new husband (her 3rd or 4th or maybe even 5th, btw), everything will be just dandy. The rest of the posts, like yours and mine, are bitching about or in some other way commenting on all the other posts.
Well, either that, or in nobody's lifetime on this board has Michigan ever had a head coach of the football team coach another college team after coaching at Michigan (I believe you have to go back to the 1920s with Elton Wieman). So people are understandably curious about what RR is up to. Michigan is where coaches end their careers in successful fashion--not where they flame out and try to rehabilitate their reputations somewhere else.
Practically every RR post for the past year has been useless, but they can still be a hell of a lot of fun. They're kind of like after a bad marriage ends. About 50% of the posts are like when the ex-wife gets remarried, the ex-husband expects the new marriage to fail, because, after all, she's a loser bitch. About 25% of the posts are like the mother of the bride who thinks the ex-husband never gave her a fair chance, and now that she has a new husband (her 3rd or 4th or maybe even 5th, btw), everything will be just dandy. The rest of the posts, like yours and mine, are bitching about or in some other way commenting on all the other posts.
Well, either that, or in nobody's lifetime on this board has Michigan ever had a head coach of the football team coach another college team after coaching at Michigan (I believe you have to go back to the 1920s with Elton Wieman). So people are understandably curious about what RR is up to. Michigan is where coaches end their careers in successful fashion--not where they flame out and try to rehabilitate their reputations somewhere else.
I'll root for either one. Go Rich.
Ok. Can we all agree this subject is now done and we never need to discuss it again?
tired of this shit...its past news. move on. Rich was a good guy who got the short end of the stick. Hoke has brought a better situation upon us. Move on, assholes. Bear Down! Go Blue!
Rich was a good guy and i wish him all the luck in the world in Zona, but let's please move on.
I think that this little girl might have something to teach you. I'll let you figure out the symbolism on your own.
LMAO I immediately noticed the same thing.
I agree! Eat baby eat!
Please see Denard Robinson's celebration act in the Ohio game.
Even as a guy who in some ways used to supper RR, I'm over the once a day posts about him. That's nice for him, I wish him well unless he plays us or EMU.
about RR so we can debate this shit one more time. I'm sure he sneezed this morning or something...any reason to start another 'great RR debate' thread would be tremendous!
Who is Rich Rodridguez fergodsakes?
I did not post this to debate RR, but to note the literal final play in thre Rich Rod Era. That's all. I have no interest in debating what has been debated ad nauseum. My post was merely to let people know what I saw yesterday.
People need to chill the fuck out.
If you really posted this and didn't expect the 2,324,123,124th Rich Rod fight, you are an idiot.
This is MGoBlog. Even starting a thead about Lloyd Carr or Bo Schembechler will devolve into a redundant debate.
Still got love for Rich Rod. Good luck in Arizona. If I saw this I would have posted as well come on people it's interesting the guy saw the truck.
I agree. And it's not like this thread is crowding out numerous newsworthy and important threads. It's the off season. There's not a whole lot going on right now.
LOL at those who don't want to see RR threads but contribute to them anyway. ;)