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Rich Rod Compared UM Football To New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina

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Rich Rod Compared UM Football To New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina

RichRod recently compared us to what the Saints had to go thru.

He says:
“It’s really kind of ironic that the New Orleans Saints overcame the hurricane a few years back,” Rodriguez said, referring to Hurricane Katrina, which damaged large sections of the Gulf Coast in 2005. “I used to live and coach in New Orleans for a couple years, and I know how devastated that city is and how they overcome and rebuild the stadium and rebuild the program.

“And we’ve had a few hurricanes of our own. We had a big hurricane in August, and it kind of hit us like a ton of bricks. But you had 120 young men and a bunch of people on the staff that said this is not going to tear our program apart.

“In fact, it will do just the opposite: Bring us together. This senior class and the underclassmen that are leaders took charge of this football team and said nothing is going to tear this team apart, and nothing did.

“We didn’t end the season the way we wanted, and we didn’t win as many games as everybody would have liked. But don’t tell me this team is a failure. It’s a disappointment because we thought we could have won more and should have won more. But these guys are champions. I am proud of everyone.”

I really dont like what he compared it to but I like the message of bringing the team together and being proud of our players.

EDIT Sorry about no link, the story comes from a blog.
http://detroit4lyfe.com/articles/michigan-wolverines/rich-rod-not-gainin...

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:28 PM | Is there a link? I hate when (Score:1)
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Is there a link?

I hate when threads don't link.

A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:32 PM | Agree... You need to add a (Score:1)
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Agree... You need to add a link... considering the alleged statements made will be deemed highly controversial (A bad football season caused by controversy and bad play is not a ruined city caused by a hurricane), you at least want to deflect any criticism onto the source... and not yourself.

As an aside... I hope the OP has this out of context. THis would be in the "not a smart thing to say" category

Link it

Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:34 PM | Freep (Score:1)
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It's all over the internet. It's originally a Freep story. I, for one, am glad that he didn't link the Freep. For the gist, see the following:
http://deadspin.com/5418908/rich-rodriguez-ncaa-investigation-a-lot-like...

http://thebiglead.com/?p=30201

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:15 PM | didnt see this elsewhere in these comments (Score:1)
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or the story online. But the saints-michigan comparison was not started by RR. In fact regent White who spoke earlier in the evening talked about adversity and compared UM to the Saints in terms of what the Saints had to overcome with Katrina. RR merely brought it back up later in the night. And, again his focus was not on the comparison as much as it was talking about adversity.

You can't stop me muthaf!cker cause I'm on a boat! I got my swim trunks, and my flippy-floppies.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:29 PM | The analogy was, putting it (Score:1)
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The analogy was, putting it mildly, poor. Clearly he's not at his best when he's standing behind a podium. Hopefully the team starts winning next year and we can just brush these things aside.

"Come on, you Wolverines!"

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:29 PM | Freep Headline Tomorrow: (Score:1)
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RR Enjoys Hurricanes

But really, not the best analogy to use.

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:51 PM | Overly Sensitive (Score:1)
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Of all the things to wonder about with RR, this should not make the list even if the list had 689,000 items on it.

Really, he's championing the spirit of New Orleans, and wants to champion the spirit of his team.

I think it's too bad that in this country, people are really into twisting words to find something to get miffed about.

It's as if everyone in America is born with a stick up their asses.

I do not like math

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:29 PM | 1) You're like a dream come (Score:1)
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1) You're like a dream come true

"I think you are my favorite poster. The polar bear avatar definitely helps." - ShockFX

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:39 PM | 2) Just wanna be with you (Score:1)
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2) Just wanna be with you

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:58 PM | 3) Girl it's plain to see (Score:1)
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3) Girl it's plain to see that you're the only one for me and

"I think you are my favorite poster. The polar bear avatar definitely helps." - ShockFX

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:17 PM | 4) repeat steps 1 2 3 (Score:1)
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4) repeat steps 1 2 3

“The blue in our ribbons may fade, our trophies may become tarnished, the gleam of our medals lose luster, but the emotional experiences of joy and elation will never be forgotten.”

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:21 PM | 5 (Score:1)
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make you fall in love with me

http://cnbsports.com

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:24 PM | If ever I believe my work is (Score:1)
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If ever I believe my work is done... then I start back at one.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:21 PM | Ye-yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. (Score:1)
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Ye-yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

Touchdown Michigan!

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:40 PM | Already a Thread (Score:1)
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EDIT: Aaaaaand, I'm stupid..........

posted the wrong thread link.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:31 PM | This is a ridiculous (Score:1)
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This is a ridiculous comparision. The New Orleans Saints had to deal with a lot of outside influences that they had nothing to do with. Michigan is just being investigated, and if he infact hasn't done anything wrong (or really, even if he has), nothing will come of it. Michigan is experiencing problems because they have a lot of subpar/immature players out there, not because a natural disaster wrecked everything around them. If anything he should have just compared it to the first years of Pete Carrol, because that would be far more relevant to this situation and the content of his speach. Not to mention this would ruffle the feathers of those affected.

Go Blue!

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:31 PM | #1 (Score:1)
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Already covered http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/rrs-year-end-speech-team

#2 this is now up on SI.com riping Rich Rod for the speech.

I kinda wish we'd go back to the Fort Schembechler days where there was zero media access to anything relating to the program.

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:40 PM | Fort Schembechler strategy currently can be seen by Dantonio's (Score:1)
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approach to the media during the latest MSU footballers vs nerd riot.

He has yet to comment on the situation and the media seems to be letting him skate though the fray unsullied.

If this happened at UM, RR would have said something by now and probably would have been been hammered for it.

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:09 PM | Do you have a link (Score:1)
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for "SI.com ripping Rich Rod for the speech?"

The best take I've read on all this bashing RR business was in a comment by "Captain" (http://mgoblog.com/content/dantonio-double-standard?page=3) under the subject line "Double Standard Explained":

"A negative RR piece, on the other hand, is far more likely to get picked up by national news outlets for the same reason that I would probably read a scathing piece about Urban Meyer.

If there's a silver lining behind this double standard, its that we have a coach significant enough to draw national media attention for relatively minor occurrences."

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:23 PM | Link (Score:1)
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Here is the link.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/extramustard/hotclicks/12/04/charl...

It is part of their "Hot Clicks" section and ultimately draws from the same source as this thread. This editoralized intro to the link:

"Ridiculousness From Rich Rod:
Rich Rodriguez just added to his troubles by comparing what Michigan football is going through to what the Saints had to overcome after Hurricane Katrina ravaged New Orleans."

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures. "

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:27 PM | Looked it up. (Score:1)
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The SI link connects to a post by Bob Biscigliano at http://detroit4lyfe.com/articles/michigan-wolverines/rich-rod-not-gainin.... I never heard of either writer or site before today (the post links to the freep article). The post drew maybe five comments (pro and con). I have trouble believing SI editors have this site on their morning reading list each day; rather, I am forming a picture that they start each morning googling "Rich Rod looks like horse's ass" to see if they can scare up a link like this one. It's not like they couldn't have found dozens titled "RR gives good speech" that were up long before this one was. Until the next season starts and RR starts winning, I suppose we can expect more of this ****.

**Oh -- that is, until the NCAA completes its investigation and recommends that UM sue the Freep for libel. There may be good news coming in the off-season, though I'm sure it will be subject to the usual spin.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:33 PM | When people complain about (Score:1)
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When people complain about how curt Bill Belichick is with the media, I like to remind them of things like this. I'd prefer a football coach to say little to the media, because things like this are just distracting or, at the very least, unbecoming.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:41 PM | I agree, but I'd also wish (Score:1)
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I agree, but I'd also wish the media would quit running with some of these things like they do. It's the BS headline desperation of the media that will get the people with diarrhea of the mouth every time, even if they didn't mean to "offend."

I'm failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance.

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:39 PM | The most accurate critique of (Score:1)
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The most accurate critique of RR might be that he didn't understand the media environment surrounding a top tier college job.

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December 4th, 2009 at 4:49 PM | BB should release a handbook on how to deal with the press (Score:1)
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I watched his pregame press conference before the Saints game, it was genius. It hardly had a pulse, you would think he was talking about the weather or the taste of oatmeal. BB puts his emotions and work on the field (which many coaches do) but does not give headlines to the press or bulletin board material to the opposing team. The headlines should be so and so WON not so and so said blah blah. I am looking forward to those headlines of Michigan won not RR said blah blah blah.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:35 PM | OH MY GOD I AM (Score:1)
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OH MY GOD I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OFFENDED OMG OMG OMG HOW DARE HE!!!1!!

Seriously, I lived near New Orleans. Yes, poor comparison, but I'm not about to go on a righteous tirade here.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:45 PM | I live in New Orleans. it's a (Score:1)
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I live in New Orleans. it's a comparison that's acceptable to draw from the standpoint of a program. the Saints really struggled in that first year after Katrina and have since but what's been brought up time and time again is that it made the program stronger and the team's integral cogs more bonded. I have no problem with the comparison.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:55 PM | Exactly... (Score:1)
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...The comparison was of Michigans football team to the New Orleans Saints football team. Not UM football to the hurricane victims themselves.

...you just got Nard Dawged!!

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:00 PM | I agree (Score:1)
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He is comparing UM to the New Orleans Saints, not the families and vicitms of the hurricane.

If he was saying that fans must feel like the families of the victims or something, that would be different, but here he is comparing the NO Saints program (and the rebuilding) to ours.

It maybe isn't the best of comparisons, but lets not make it worse than it is (the media is already doing that).

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:59 PM | I Too Live in NOLA (Score:1)
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I live in New Orleans (not sure that gives me the power to deem what is or is not acceptable regarding comparisons to Katrina), and Rich Rod was also a New Orleanian for awhile when he coached at Tulane. While this period ended before Katrina, as a current resident, I'd give a former resident more leeway.

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December 4th, 2009 at 6:03 PM | Not only comparing teams (Score:1)
Maize and Blue ...
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but could be referring to a perfect storm. RR has experienced attrition (expected), taking over a program thats offense had graduated or left early yet still had 7 returners on D in year one, year two sees more players suited to the O with hardly any returners on D, the BS article by a Detroit rag about practice (are we talking 'bout practice), some alumni against the change in philosphy and has survived so far.
The staff is busting their butts trying to bring in the best recruits they can and then the conference writes a rule that is tougher than the NCAAs and doesn't allow EEs to count against the previous year. If this rule isn't in place M could sign up to 29 if they didn't offer all fifth years or experienced any further attrition.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:38 PM | So it may not be apples to apples (Score:1)
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but I don't think he should be stoned at high noon for this. Why does everyone think they have to scrutinize everything said these days by public figures. PC in this country has gotten out of hand and this country is really getting soft. It is getting annoying.

"Obviously you're not a golfer."

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:43 PM | Should he be.. maybe (Score:1)
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Should he be.. maybe not.
Will he be... he already is (see above links... and the e-mail I already received from one of my Sparty Friends making fun of this)

The P.R. we've received the last two years has been horrible. The team has been horrible. Controvertial statements (whether people are over-reacting or not) don't help UM's image...

And, I know, someone will react by saying "who cares what other people think!"

We all do. We love UM and UM football. Negative press (rightful or not) hurts the program (even if on a small level). And that hurts my soul.

Class of '97: 4 Years -- 4 Four-loss seasons

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:55 PM | I am sorry. You mean a (Score:1)
Blue In NC
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I am sorry. You mean a Sparty has the nerve right now to criticize a coach's actions. You have plenty of material, not get busy on your response.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:41 PM | Rich Rod no! (Score:1)
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It wasn't exactly Nick Saban comparing a loss to WWII and 9/11, but it wasn't the best comment to make either. Even if he means well, the media is going to continue to rip him based on how they hear his comments. RR needs to be more careful and try to avoid statements that can be interpreted to sound bad.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:50 PM | excellent point (Score:1)
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i had completely forgotten about this. and you know what? everyone will completely forget about what rich said. when you read the transcript it does come across a little inappropriate. however, we weren't in the room and as always, context and how a statement is conveyed are very, very important. it's like that joke bruce pearl told about being from the hood and wearing hoods in response to team chemistry. it seems crazy he actually said such a thing but apparently the room was cracking up and the players and their parents thought it was funny.

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December 4th, 2009 at 3:24 PM | Except, if i'm not mistaken, (Score:1)
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Except, if i'm not mistaken, he's talking to his players, and it's not really meant for people like us; however, he shouldn't do it with the media present.

To me this is a non-issue; but then again, I'm not from New Orleans.

Touchdown Michigan!

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December 7th, 2009 at 4:00 PM | I agree. It wasn't like he (Score:1)
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I agree. It wasn't like he made the comment at a booster event, and that's usually were most controversial comments by, say, SEC coaches are made, i.e. "coonass," Kiffin saying Urban Meyer cheats.

It's not like most speeches to players are appropriate for the media anyways, but I guess they're only noteworthy when some controversy can be made. I'm not necessarily criticizing RR. I'm suggesting that he may have to take preemptive measures so that he avoids making comments that can be taken the wrong way. It's not just him; we all say things that get interpreted the wrong way, whether in a job interview, on a date, or in conversation with friends.

Ann Arbor is a classy broad.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:45 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
bighousechris
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cut the guy some friggin' slack. What happened in August was a shit-storm and I for one don't think the analogy was off base or inappropriate.

New Orleans weathered a storm and so will we.

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December 4th, 2009 at 2:46 PM | Come on Big Pussy (Score:1)
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You're losing your creativity: http://deadspin.com/comment/17310911/

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:44 PM | Let's put this on the who gives a sh*t channel (Score:1)
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Seriously, who cares?

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:46 PM | Ugh. Is this seriously that (Score:1)
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Ugh. Is this seriously that big of a deal? Everyone knows he didn't mean anything sinister by the comment. Sometimes the call for the insane level of political correctness the MSM requires makes me want to RAGE K.O.B style.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:49 PM | oh boy! (Score:1)
Erik_in_Dayton
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A chance to be offended on behalf of the people of New Orleans, whom I'm sure the people at CNNSI (along w/ any other self-righteous sports journalists) have worked so hard to help!

If memory serves, football coaches are pretty prone to using metaphors and allegories and such. I'm very sure that Coach Rodriguez wasn't trying to imply that Michigan's season in any way equaled the human suffering endured in New Orleans.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:51 PM | Why is everyone so goddamn (Score:1)
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Why is everyone so goddamn sensitive???

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:53 PM | well...I never! (Score:1)
Erik_in_Dayton
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How dare you take the Lord's name in vain?!

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:52 PM | Give me a break. Give me a (Score:1)
estours717
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Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat Bar.

You’re two Reese’s Pieces away from the offensive line.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:54 PM | mmmm (Score:1)
MGoObes
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i was waiting for this post, took longer than i expected but here it is.

http://cnbsports.com

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:54 PM | I think he was referring to... (Score:1)
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I think he was referring to hurricane rosenberg....that big low pressure system that was full of shit aka shit storm that love to shine down and create rainbows over east lansing.

My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:55 PM | Why are we talking about these comments (Score:1)
nmwolverine
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when we could be talking about important topics like Tiger Woods' private life.

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December 4th, 2009 at 1:56 PM | No news (Score:1)
jamiemac
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This isnt news. I can tune out the msm, if you guys can.

Besides, he didnt really compare it actually to Katrina.

Football corch says something kinda lame. news a fucking 10

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