Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
not gonna happen. You actually believe a tsio rag-blog? WAHAHAHAHA.
you have after a good laugh?
Cried like a little bitch when they carried Carr off the field.
But for something like that, it's not crying like a little bitch - it is crying like a man.
can't wait to see him on the sidelines in AA.
But it's so tough to watch. And not because for whatever reason there isn't an HD version available.
You see Rich Rod standing on the sidelines...very next play Donovan Warren makes a nice play...next play Manningham makes a nice play...Adrian Arrington comes up big. I'm sure the camera pans the sidelines and Ryan Mallett is going nuts.
Then you think, why the EFF didn't we play like that all year? Why THEN do we open it up?!
...but all in all, it was a great game and a great win. Manhandled.
Recall that Henne had a hurt arm and that was why Mallet played against Oregon, PSU and Illinois. He was still hurt when we played Wisconsin and OSU at the end of the year. He got healthy for the bowl game, and thus we were able to open it up with a healthy experienced senior 4 year starter QB.....
I recall the radio team (Beckman and Brandstatter) saying he was about 95% at the time of the Florida game and had hardly practiced at all during the season because of his injuries.
If I recall, Hart was injured often that year and Kevin Grady tore his ACL before the season, so our RB options were two very young guys, Brandon Minor and Carlos Brown. There were other things too....
By the looks of that grainy(sp?) video 2006 was 100 years ago.
Man I wish Long would have caught that pass. The world might have exploded due to that play's awesomeness.
I really do think he is a good coach, I really really want them to get hit with a 2yr probation/bowl ban. I also hope that OSU booster continue to drive this school to the ground.
Not to mention Meyer's best player on that team (TEBOW) was recruited by Mattison, he dont have Mattison now.
I'd like to see Hoke destroy both OSU and Urban Meyer every year. Michigan beat Urban last time we played him, we'll keep on beating him. OSU can keep him and the criminals that play for him.
Criminals? C'mon now.
given the number of arrests under his watch at Florida, I'd say that's an accurate statement.
in less than 4 years.
Even some of his own fans called for him to be fired:http://www.gatorsendzone.com/articles/why-the-university-of-florida-should-fire-urban-meyer/
So yeah, criminals. C'mon now.
It depends on what your definition of a criminal is. Law breaking isn't necessarily criminality. Often times law breakers are heroes. So, c'mon now, let's welcome Urban's future heroes to the B1G.
And what is your definition of criminal?
A person who dances in front of a mirror without pants. Everything else is a case by case basis.
With or without "Goodbye Horses" playing in the background?
would you *expletive delete* me?
need to be tucking his man part under their crass and saying "she puts the lotion in the basket, she does it when she is told" or is that optional as well.
In all seriousness, I doubt that is accurate. Not the right hire for OSU. Remember when Miles to Michigan was a "done deal?"
So you were the one stalking Erin Andrews?!
The pineapple guy's last link has a list of the first 24 incidents--which alleged lawbreaker do you think was a hero? Felony domestic violence by strangulation? Unauthorized use of a dead woman's credit card--70 times? Multiple counts of date rape?
They aren't all criminals, I agree...but who were the heroes?
You sound like the people who get mad at Colin Quinn's twitter account.
well, somebody's got to play the straight man.
Why does a dead woman need a credit card? She doesn't care. And maybe the bank had to eat all those charges. That's heroic in itself. #occupyunpaiddebtaccumulation
Srsly? I am not getting your sarcasm if that is what it is. you are wrong on so many levels.
Remember when Les Miles to Michigan was a done deal....twice?
Well it was until Lloyd, Moeller and MSC stepped in.
And what about last time around when local Baton Rouge sports casters were wishing Les luck in Ann Arbor after their bowl game?
What about it? It was rumored twice. In 2008 it was a very real possibility and beacuse of this people were much quicker to jump to conclusions the second time around.
I think you are missing the point - a coaching change is only official when you see the guy at the podium saying how happy he is to be there. John U. Bacon aside, I am still sceptical that Miles still doesn't go to LSU and get more money rather than coming here. Also, the 2011 Les Miles report wasn't a rumor. A station in Baton Rouge was reporting it as a fact. A done deal. They also said that Pelini had been hired to come to LSU. Like many on this Board, I wasted an hour or two of my life late one night listening to what turned out to be utterly wrong. Just like the "its Harbaugh," "its Gruden," "its the other Harbaugh" rumors that were all wrong.
Now, maybe this ends up being correct and Meyer goes to OSU. However, I am not going to worry about it until I see Meyer at a press conference in Columbus.
At Florida, it seemed that Meyer was able to bring together ludicrous collections of talent that sometimes played sloppy and underachieved. I know, it's tough to knock a guy who won 2 NCs in 6 years, but I don't think Meyer's coaching abilities are all they've cracked up to be:
So what am I trying to say? For a supposed offensive genius, Meyer's results are decidedly mixed. Before Tebow started (2005-06) the offense was above-average at best, and without Dan Mullen (2009-10) the offense wasn't that great either. Given what Mullen has been able to do with questionable talent at Miss St., it seems reasonable to credit Mullen with a lot of the offensive success under Meyer. And even with Mullen and Tebow, Florida never developed a consistent running game other than TEBOW SMASH - a lot of their success came from Percy Harvin being a ridiculous athlete and breaking a play or two.
I think Meyer (if he goes to Ohio) will be a good coach for them, but I don't think Ohio getting him is necessarily the kind of coup many people think he is.
If I'm honest with myself, I worry the same thing. And not just because Urb's coordinators seemed to help his sucess. That's another reason I would want Luke to stick around, it would help ease the transition, Luke would command a higher pay and hopefully influence getting all our coordinators higher salaries.
But also if we hire Urban now, it would be yet another Gene Smith decision. We all know how those have gone lately.
Today's lesson in "Rumormongering is what the twitters are for" comes courtesy of 11W:
Fire up the FlightAware, Buckeyes, and buckle up. You're in for a bumpy ride.
Ain't that the truth.
My wife still can't get over the fact I used flight aware last January in our collective time of coaching need.
One of the two of them is wrong.
We need to talk the next time I feel like betting on something! /s
Bring it on. With Mattison coaching our defense I'm not worried. I want to them to lose The Game when they are strong, not weak.
And I'm sure Mattison won't pull an Andy Reid and get his play calls picked off by someone that knows him fairly well, like Kolb did for Arizona.
Dude, Mattison will drink Meyer's milkshake.
twitter is also saying that Urban is close to a deal to become the next head coach at UCLA, I would believe that before this one.
Demi and Ashton are trending on twitter too. Same with women who don't cook.
I don't believe anything I read on twitter unless it's posted by espn or sports illustrated.
And Urban Meyer doesn't scare me what so ever.
hahahaha you said ESPN hahahahahaha
If true, so much for taking a couple of years off to chill out and be with the family. OSU is another high pressure job, just like Florida. Some guys just can't help themselves.
Even if he does take the job, I doubt he's still there in 5 years.
I'll wait for someone real to report it.
It's like now they're saying that they're not being serious but once were.
I think you're reading into it too much. They were talking about the tweet above saying they heard from multiple sources. Not that they were no longer serious.
I hope it is true. Bring hm on!
I'll waiting until his press secretary..er daughter let's us know his plans.
His daughter has a decent twitter account...if you want to vomit. She really loved Florida while he was there...
That'll be a long commute from the house he just bought in State College.
Can we change "report" to "rumor"? I'll trust it when a credible news outlet says it. 11W may be just a little biased. Then again, with the state of investigative journalism in this country, ESPN will be reporting it in about 11 seconds using 11W as their "source".
Thought about doing that. But 11W is usually respected around these parts (including the proprietor of this here blog) as legitimate news.
I made sure to highlight that its them in the body so no one would think it was a widespread news release or wire report.
Ramzy might be tight with Brian but he's still nothing more than a honk for Ohio. He posts more than his fair share of hopeful/delusional crap about the ongoing "investigations" etc.
This Meyer business seems a lot like that.
Lets remember he retired from Florida for "health reasons" (amongst other things)... Why would he take on a program which is in shambles and under the NCAA and everyone's microscope? The only thing worse for his health would be taking over at Penn State- I think he is staying in retirement.
If he realy does have a health condition and it has to do with his heart, I would be very fearful if I were his family.
however, on a serious note, if true, fickel should probably give his resignation, effective today. i understand he forced into the position and didn't exactly have the university's support, but to have your school arranging your replacement behind your back is embarassing. leave with some dignity, on your own terms.
Foley's back in Gainesville and Fickell to Florida is a done deal. Multiple sources. No timetable for an announcement--they'll probably let Muschamp finish the season.
Bollman's rumored to be first choice for the job in Ohio. If they can't get Gruden, that is.
I totally believe these rumors, and I look forward to the many battles between Urban Meyer and Coach
Miles Ferentz Schiano Gruden Harbaugh Hoke.
Don't forget about Gary "Drinkle" Pinkell!
Whether it's Urban or someone else, you know tOSU isn't going to rest on their laurels with some two-bit coach. We should expect nothing less. And we should want nothing less.
last time going w/ the Youngstown State coach
He left UF to be with family and mind his health, but is already back in the fray after 1 year? I don't know...
Repeat the hesitations that have been shared in this thread. I don't know if he wants to go through another pressure grinder, at least not now. Maybe in a few years.
because the impact to recruiting of an Urban Meyer at Ohio State (even over Penn State) is a significant challenge (starting with Dunn staying), there are enough major openings this year to make it a good time to name your price.
On the flip, depending on how the NCAA actuals comes down on Ohio State in the end, they may need a fall guy. Some Kiffen-like homer , or (sorry in advance) naive Rodriguez-like candidate who would jump at the chance despite the risk to come in and sit over a program in catharsis.
The thing is, OSU's self-imposed sanctions are only 1-fers (unlike ours), not the typical 2x the crime. If the NCAA sticks to the rule of two, then they are looking at 10 scholarships, 2 bowl games, etc. Then there is the risk of an AD and maybe even a University President change. A lot of risks there. It depends on how Meyer sees the risk / reward. (Same thing at Penn State. I think the risk is actually lower there, the question is the recruiting cache versus OSU.)
I ain't afraid of Urban Meyer. Bring him on. He had a monopoly in FL while Miami and FSU sucked. He'll have some competition here.
He only had a down Miami and a down FSU to really compete with him in his backyard. Sure he was (still is?) a really good coach, but he's not some savior for Ohio's program. The NCAA won't pull their punches just b/c Meyer might be coming on board.
They are all quoting Mike Freeman of CBS, and he is saying its a false rumour.
as long as we beat 'em
They aren't satisfied with Luke Fickell?
Presently "Parked" by GoDaddy.com
What's the point if it's a foregone conclusion?
I want to give him one more year to prove himself. This year wasn't a fair test, given that he had 5 starters suspended for half the season and no chance to bring in his own people or create a functional offense. An additional year is contingent on firing the Walrus and the VCR repairman though.
said he wants to coach again, but he has it made at ESPN. It's a no stress job that pays him a lot of money to sit around and just talk football. I don't see him coaching for another couple years.
Kinda depressing that in the middle of an NCAA Shitstorm AND with their mouth breathing fan-base AND a dumb fuck AD, they still get their number one choice. We couldn't get our number one (Harbaugh) choice who was an alum and had to settle for our 2nd or 3rd choice. Now I'm not complaining after the fact, but it's somewhat puzzling since UM is a class above OSU on almost every level.
Urban may be the coach of OSU someday. Heck, he could be the coach of OSU next year.
One thing I will guarantee you...Urban WILL NOT TAKE THAT JOB BEFORE SANCTIONS COME DOWN. He is a smart man...why would he walk into a mess?
I agree about not being scared either. Saban beat him on a regular basis, so did MIles. We can too.
Spring summer at least, last time I heard.
I'm pretty sure Miles had a losing record against Urban, and Saban was .500.
THe media saying that it's a false rumor doesn't mean it's not true. I doubt OSU actually wants it out there that they have replaced their coach mid season, without even firing him. Would upstage the seniors 2 days before senior day and coming before the Michigan game as well. I can easily believe there is an oral agreement between both parties just as easily as there has been no such meeting.
As much as everyone says: why would Meyer want to go coach at OSU, after his health issues and the troubles going on down there, he has always said he'd like to coach at OSU, ND or UofM, and I doubt the actual sanctions from the NCAA will be that damaging. OSU's stonewalling and "self reporting" after the cat was out of the bag seem to be keeping NCAA punishments at a minimum.
And with the way the defense has turned around this season, I'm much less worried about opponents' coaches than I was 4 months ago.
Sure, but announcing a huge name like Meyer would probably help with their recruiting.
Maybe, but a lot of players don't want to play in a spread offense. I think Dunn has said something along those lines. He may be able to attract some spread athletes, but it might not be great for their class this late in the game.
Ohio is a heart attack recipe. No way this happens.
Don't see how he would do that when no one knows the serevity of sactions?
Yeah, it would be nice to beat OSU when their good, but Meyer is a VERY good coach. I want OSU to get smashed with sanctions, and to be stuck with Luke Fickell for the next couple years as their coach. I want OSU to lose every game, and I want Michigan to win the game by a lopsided margin for a couple years before that progam begins any kind of turn around.
I think people want Urban here because we have a good record against his teams. Not sure the record, but I know we beat his Florida team that had previous National Champion and Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow at the helm.
There is probably some other stuff, maybe regarding the system he runs, or that he would probably not recruit Ohio as much as players from areas like Florida fit his systems better, but I honestly don't see him taking the job. He had a great gig at Florida and left because the stress gave him 2 near heart attacks I think. OSU isn't going to be a stress free situation, especially if he comes in before/during the hammer falls down on NCAA and he has to deal with sanctions.
As such I will wait until something is in writing. Besides this came out last week when asked about him returning to coaching:
Urban Meyer general statement: "I am very happy with my role at ESPN. I have no plans to return to coaching at this time."I am very happy with my role at ESPN. I have no plans to return to coaching at this time."
Granted that is in regards to the PSU situation, but I think he is truly happy at ESPN where it is a relatively stress free job and he still gets to cover/discuss college football on a weekly basis.
Say this gets confirmed... I don't think it's the home run the Buckeyes think it is. Meyer results dropped off dramatically when he tried to cut back. Can he be successful going less than 100%? And if he does go all out how long can he keep it up? Can recruits be confident he'll be there 4 or 5 years down the road?
It's just the slappies trying to cope with the impending doom that awaits them before it happens. Just take your beating, buckeyes. I give them better odds at stealing Dantonio with better resources, better cash, and better recruits than they do luring Meyer out of his cushy retirement.
Michigan had a year to pick a coach in 2008 and flails around and flails around passing on a former alum and national championship winner to pick the worst possible fit in RIch Rod ensuring 3-5 years of misery while OSU goes through one of the most embarassing sagas in recent memory and cherry picks the best coach in college football over the last decade. OSU will skate any serious NCAA penalties and just keep right on rolling over the rest of the Big 10.
Some things in life truly are not fair...
Oh and to those with the all the fake bravado because we beat Florida in a couple of meaningless bowl games- give me a break....
How about you acquire a set of these?
93grad's comment is why negbangs should be brought back. There is no such thing as a meaningless bowl game when Michigan is playing in it, ESPECIALLY when it was against a top-tier SEC team with quarterbacked by a Heisman winner.
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If you think going 9-4 and winning the frickin Outback bowl is so great maybe you should be a fan of Sparty or Tennessee.
I have watched enough coaching searches to realize that these rumors are nearly always bull shit.
I'm hearing from a very reliable source that Rex Ryan to ohio is a done deal and he will be the next head FOOTball coach.
I see what you did there...
Eh, i am 100 percent sure our Co Head Coaches Les Miles and Jim Harbaugh arent concerned by this development
Hey look, Mrs. Miles looking at property in Saline!
Rumor already had the invocation of FlightAware yesterday afternoon, a blog running with a cryptic "99.X% sure" statement tonight, what's next?
HAHA. Remember the RichRod experiment? It didn't work. Neither will Urban Meyer
Of all the coaches OSU could have hired, they hire the one OUR defensive coordinator knows the best. Hoke really has changed the tide in this rivalry.
I like this perspective...I like it a lot.
He's....ahhh nevermind. I won't go there
Well look on the bright side, at least the Buckeyes won't try to use the idiotic excuse anymore that they shouldn't get punished because losing a coach is punishment enough.
Holy shit are they ever going to skate. Talk about being charmed. Their coach gets fired because of a cheating scandal at probably the only time that the best possible candidate is actually available.
Imagine if Harbaugh won two national championshps, then retired for one year, and our coach got caught cheating that same year, and Harbaugh wanted to get back into coaching.
My ideal series of events: 1. These rumors blow up big time in the next two weeks causing Fickell's support and the support of the team to crumble (if he has any to begin with)
2. Resulting disgruntled team plays like a bunch of girls in The Game
3. Sanctions come down hard on OSU the week after UofM game, bowl ban included
4. Meyer squashes rumors of coming to OSU
5. OSU fires everyone
6. Brionte Dunn burns his OSU gear and commits to the good guys
Really any 2 of these will make me happy
You mean like that:
i can see d'antonio bailing ship to OSU and really pissing sparty off
those are the names i can see them going after.
I guess Fickell would be unemployed after this, sucks for him !
Gruden, Patterson, Peterson, Schiano, and Meyer seem to come up in every head coaching search regardless of context.
Apparently Urban Meyer talked to Arizona about coaching there and said no. I would say that if he considered coaching at Arizona, there's little reason to think he won't be coaching somewhere next year. I'm not sure if you can get a good read on a guy who goes into retirement from coaching at 46 from a school at which he's won 2 national championships in order to spend more time with his family, but I have to say it seems likely he'll end up at Ohio State.
But those gimmicky spread offensse won't work against Big Ten defenses, right?
Talking to Arizona doesn't necessary imply interest--it could just mean he answered his phone.
He met with the AD for Arizona in Miami last week.
in Mark Dantonio crossing the border and going back to where he came from.
I think this is the most likely scenario.
On the bright side Sparty and Ohio will both remain NC virgins under Dantonio.
Sorry, but I won't believe it until I see it. With the numerous violations over the summer and continuing violations he isn't going to sign on until he sees what the NCAA does.
Worked well there last year, didn't it?
Look at his track record, he did great at Bowling Green and Utah, staying there for two seasons each. Was at Florida a bit longer. Both BG and Utah struggled for a few years after he left - is he just a guy who can install and offense but can't recruit the pieces for the long run?
Wait, doesn't that mean that Urban Meyer is a really good coach? As soon as he arrives, things get a lot better. As soon as he leaves, people struggle. Doesn't this mean that having him as a coach creates a whole lot of value for the program?
Looking for reasons why Meyer is not that good of a coach is grasping at straws. So I'll grasp away. You could argue that those two seasons are a small sample size, and riding good QBs before that left. Also, he was not nearly as impressive at UF without Tebow.
Some people around here used that argument why Hoke was a bad hire and he wasn't a good coach....
Because after he raised bad programs up they went back to sucking after he left.
"they" also used the fact that those programs, steeped in years of futility, weren't overnight successes as a reason why he wasn't good.
just ju-jitsu'ed yourself there, friend.
[Meyer takes bad programs and turns them into powerhouses, and then as soon as he leaves things fall apart! Bad coach!]
It was a Rich Rod joke about all of the people who said that the spread wouldn't work against Big Ten Defenses. Probably only worked in the SEC because they had the esssseeeeesseeeeeee speed.
Are people really still convinced that OSU is going to get hammered? I just have the feeling now after all of their attempts to hinder the NCAA that they are going to get something like a doubling of the current 5 scholarships to 10 over 3 years( basically operating at 82 scholarships for 3 seasons) and no bowl ban. Wouldn't be enough to keep a big name coach away.
They almost certainly won't even get that. NCAA will accept their joke of a self-imposed penalty and send a message to the college football world that cheating more than pays.
The NCAA dropped the Failure to Monitor charge about a week ago... I am sure they are preparing to get fisted because of that. The issue with OSU was that, unlike USC, they missed getting tagged originally with the Failure to Monitor. That is now slapped up on them. I expect more to come.
Anyone can do this shit.
Oh, and I just read that Peyton Manning was going to interview for the Ohio State job if his health doesn't improve .. I swear, I read it from someone on twitter who said he wasn't lying.
I think this is probably true though. If Urban Meyer is talking to Arizona about coaching next year, he's going to be coaching next year. If he wants the Ohio State job, you've got to imagine that they'd offer it to him. Where would he choose to coach over Ohio State? A couple of weeks ago I might have said Penn State but obviously not now.
OSU's new coach will have the initials "UM"
This fortells Michigan ownage of the rivalry for years to come.
Said that it's a done deal when I talked to him two weeks ago. To be announced november 29th at the osu duke basketball game the week after The Game. Luke Fickell to be named assistant head coach.
Is this really what we're calling sources these days?
Even if this happens, it screams of Ace Williams.
Throw shit at a wall and hope it sticks.
For one, I wonder what Mrs. Meyer would have to say about that. Next, he took stepped away from the game, which allowed his coordinators and assistant to get gigs elsewhere. He'll be starting over from scratch if that's the case, because I just don't see him retaining the current staff.
I know Tim Tebow played tonight and thus ESPN is more than likely talking about that every second of SportsCenter, but I think if this was even remotely true, the rumors would be all over ESPN by now ... a few hours and nothing. I think, for some, this makes sense -- Urban Meyer going to Ohio State, so they want to scream a source so if it happens, they "knew" it.
Or so they want people to think.
Dantonio is set in EL. He isn't going anywhere. He has his own health problems and has a pretty good thing going for him over there. At OSU he's just another coach, at MSU, he's a legend.
thats all true. but he also has beaten us 4 yrs in a row, and he is getting his clocked cleaned in in-state recruiting. if brundige had better grades wed have 8 of the top 10 and hed have none. writing is on the wall. he might figure he can match um recruiting a lot better at osu. plus by now he knows msu has no national cache.
its not about the x's and o's, its about the jimmies and joes.
He hasn't been there for over a decade, I could see him clashing with the Vrabel, Fickell traditional Tresselball types, Urban is going to try bring in a lot of kids from Florida and the South, not so many from Circleville and Washington Court House.
"The Harbaugh Phase"
Popcorn please. Family style. Extra butter. Hold the salt!
The problem with all of this is that Urban Meyer's dad passed away less than a week ago. I doubt he would be busy talking about a new job in the immediate aftermath of his father's death. It's not like the job is going anywhere, given that Meyer is at the top of their list.
Didn't also cancel his in-game commentary on Sat as well because of this as well?
He did not make the trip to Happy Valley last weekend for that reason.
I don't want to see Meyer in Columbus, but it's not because he's a good coach. I actually want OSU to be good, since the rivalry is more fun when both teams are strong. I don't want him there because I've always liked and respected Meyer and I don't know how I feel about liking OSU's coach.
That's right where I'm at with this thing too. I really wanted to see Dantonio take the job for two reasons; to see East Lansing burn, and so I could focus my hatred on Columbus for the forseeable future. This is just bad if true.
Who reported this, Kirk Herby?
....of Eleven Warriors breaking news is troublesome - I'll believe when Meyer is at the podium making his introductory speech. On the other hand, I could totally believe Eleven Warriors breaking toilets.....or Igloo coolers.
I think this rumor began on the scout free board for all who are interested...and began with some idiot poster Bloodofabuck saying
'ahhhh 5 o'clock...time to call it a day and go home....
I like how in the span of a week OSU has gone from "the team's really coming together under Fickell! I hope he stays head coach." to "Urban Meyer is a done deal".
If UM's past two coaching searches have taught me anything, it's don't start believing until the press conference.
Meyer retired from Florida to spend more time with his "family" ever since that happened all he does is travel around with the staff at ESPN.
To be fair, Being a head coach is close to a 100hr work week during the season and not much better year round. Being a commentor for a game only lasts a few months during the season, and really, he only needs to be gone on the weekends when he does his one game.
is really getting out of hand...I mean if you retire you should be done and stay retired ...This just makes me sick....Signed,Brett Favre....
A few weeks ago him and Todd McShay were breaking down film on ESPN and there was this big picture of Woody Hayes behind Meyer in his office. Ever since that day Ive felt that this was a done deal
That's been there since he started doing that stuff at espn. He supposedly always kept a picture of Hayes in his office and at home and such.
Exactly !! He's never kept pics of Bo
Yeah let's see how myer does without unlimited scholarships or the wealth of recruits in Florida in a time when the other major schools are down. Did I mention he is emotionally unstable?
While I understand your sentiment, Florida has been pretty vocal about their conference brethren and their unlimited scholarship approaches. They seem to run a pretty tight ship in that regard. Their president seems to me to be a solid guy.
as we're kicking his and Ohio's ass or whoever's ass happens to be sitting on the Shoe.
"I am trying to break your heart", Wilco...on account of Meyer's heart being you know fragile like easily breakable? Or does this work for Dantonio too?
Sheesh. I might not be making sense. But you all understand anyway.
I understand...that that's kind of fucked up.
Do you have a link?
Yes, a couple in fact. They're in the post.
Rumors are Fluff!
one of the rumored reasons Urban quit his job at UF was that the boosters had too much control over the program and that he would have to do shady stuff (which, apparently, he's a moral guy) that he didn't want to do.
So, that, along with his heart problem and kids made him quit and work for ESPN.
If he had issues with boosters at UF, he ain't seen nothing compared to OSU.
THIS IS MICHIGAN FERGODSAKES!!!
FWIW, 11w tweeted it, but hasn't posted it on their website. I think this probably has legs, much like Miles to UofM had legs, but the reports coming out could turn this thing south in a hurry.
The other rumor spreading around, and I don't have links, just comment posts here and there from commenters I trust, are that Urbs is coming in and keeping Fickell on staff. Luke knew what this was, a fling. He will stay around for the same pay he's making this year to be the DC, we get a new offensive staff, and a HC with actual HC experience who knows how to use his timeouts, how to get the team prepared for big games AND games against teams from Indiana (not named ND). So, again, rumors, some of it probably aspirational more than truthful.
ha ha,, he would be a good fit. He is no saint either. Why would Meyer want to go to a school that puts more pressure on the coach than any other school and he couldn't stand the heat in Fla? And besides tOSU will be operating with at least 5 fewer schoolies a year for at least 3 yrs and be on probation for 5 years with no post season for probably 2 years.
Comment from the originator of we 11dubsters going all flightaware:
An update on the flight: I was told by my source that Urban was NOT on that flight. There was a man and a woman who got off the plane. My guess is Urban's wife went house shopping while Urban's lawyer ironed out the details of the contract. I believe Urban was in Kissimmee, FL yesterday. For all interested, the plane is returning to Gainesville this morning. Timeline fits. If it is Urban's lawyer, he'll probably have the contract in hand and ready for Urban to sign, which would fit the description of it being a "99.7% done deal".
Yet no one is carrying this as even being close. I don't doubt that it may happen, but I think OSU fans are jumping the gun here, as no major outlets have yet to even acknoweledge the rumor...except for Staples who said his sources denied it.
Just like when Herbsteit said Les Miles was a done deal...Dont forget Ohio still has some sanctions coming,
1. Urban Meyer--Unstoppable Force
2. Greg Mattison--Immovable Object
4. Hoke point
For me personally, this would be a kick in the balls
I wanted a coaching search that included striking out a few times, right around a failure to monitor charge, bowl ban, and signing day.
If this is done this fast, Urb will murder recruiting, and no one will care about the other stuff because they have Urb. Love Hoke, Mattison and company, and I think we're on the way up, but I'm not going to act like Ohio State getting Urban Meyer doesn't make me raise my eyebrow a little bit.
The spread doesn't work in the Big Ten so whatever.
*Dies inside knowing that Meyer is going to walk into a situation 1000x better than Rodriguez and the Buckeyes are going to be the team I wanted Michigan to be...*
I certainly wasn't ever in the "spread doesn't work in the Big Ten" camp. I felt that if RR was given a little more time, and apparently support from Carr, he could have been dangerous. November in the Big Ten is rough, and OSU/Tressel always had planned every week specifically for Michigan. But if RR could have fielded a D with a pulse, he'd have won 8 games this year no problem. OSU struggles mightly against spread offenses, so UoM running one scared me. I was shocked when we held you guys to 7pts last year.
and we all know who they are - who say things about the spread not working in the Big Ten because it enables them to thoroughly hate Rich Rodriguez by discrediting him on all accounts and not just his defensive failings.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, am I rite?
Here are my reasons:
1. In 2007, Les Miles "was going" to Michigan
2. In 2007, Greg Schiano "was going" to Michigan
3. In 2010, Jim Harbaugh "was going" to Michigan
4. In 2010, Les Miles "was going again" to Michigan
and the clincher...
5. In 2005, Urban Meyer was actually going to Notre Dame, and then he changed his mind
All this suggests you can't put much stock in rumor reporting, however plausible they seem.
Meyer is a finnicky guy, prone to major voltes-face. He left Florida for health reasons, for stress reasons and because he wanted to spend more time with his family. Is going into a C-Bus hothouse really going address any of those things? No. No, it's really not at all. Plus Ohio has reduced its own scholarships already, and is likely to see more limitations imposed by the NCAA. Urban Meyer is not Lane Kiffin. Urban Meyer is not Brady Hoke. This is not his "dream job," because he doesn't have one like those guys do. It is "a logical destination job," and one of several.
So ask yourself: if you were Meyer, would you rather step in to gimpy, sanctioned Ohio with its angry "10+wins a year plus Michigan or you suck" fanbase, or to PSU's not sanctioned program with its "we haven't actually been that good for years so we're happy with 8+ wins, plus we're still embarrassed about how things ended with the last guy so we'll give you space" fanbase?
My money is on a flirtation with Ohio, followed by an announcement that Meyer's headed to Happy Valley.
PSU's situation is a lot worse than Ohio States. Penn State won't recover for years to come. Btw, Penn State has LOIC written all over it.
The answer is: none.
Yes it's measurably worse than Tatgate by virtually any ethical and moral standard, but it's not an NCAA problem. Ergo, it can be "fixed" by firing all the right(wrong) people.
Is this how things should work? No. Is it how they actually work? Yes.
Meyer can come in as a savior, and the pressure is off. All he has to do is win a reasonable number of games and not hire any kiddly-fiddlers, and he'll get as much time as he needs to rest off the migraines and go see his kid play baseball.
That's not gonna happen at Ohio.
Probably not true, but if so, bring it on.
I think Desmond should break the story...for the benefit of all football everywhere....of course I don't believe a word of this but still....
Jason from 11w seems pretty sure about this to me:
"Went to bed feeling pretty certain about Urban Meyer becoming the next OSU coach. Will just say we are even more certain now"
"He said he wanted to spend time with his family" and "He has stress issues" excuses for Urban NOT taking the job: there is no way in hell Urban expected this job to be available in 2011.
Not a chance.
My gut is that Urban wanted the OSU job all along, but knew Tressel would be around a good 2-4 more years. I think he used the health and family excuses as an out to take some time off before taking the job he REALLY wanted at OSU. I think he was feeling he would be recharged enough to take the job at that time.
But because the job is open RIGHT NOW, and won't be for the forseeable future, Urban probably thinks he needs to pounce on it.
The hypocrite cries from opposing fanbases will be loud, and somewhat deserved.
If Urban Meyer goes there, I doubt his health will allow him to last. It's good for the Big Ten to have big name coaches and it's good for competition.
What has been preventing Michigan from beating Ohio was Michigan (and Ohio's cheating). I'm confident in our coaches and players and am not really concerned about what Ohio does. Time to be an armadillo...
Ohio State fan told me everything was fine because Ohio State self-sanctioned themselves. Pretending like last season enver happened isn't punishment enough for Tattoo-gate.
Wonder what sanctions OSU will receive , and whether they will deter star coaches from going to OSU
How they expect Fickell to be motivated to coach "the game" knowing that with even a victory over Michigan, he will lose his job. I guess they feel that Hoke has really turned the tide and they don't have a chance this year against the mighty Blue.
Luke knew he was head coach for one year only. He's a great Buckeye and will be a great head coach, just not ready for the OSU quite yet. This year was a great little internship for him though. Some rumors flying that he's heading to Illinois, which I doubt highly.
But, regardless, any hiring by OSU would have been discussed with Luke first. I'm in the camp that wants Luke to stick around and be the HC sometime down the road when he's ready, because I like the guy, he recruits well, and is a great coach. Just not quite ready to be our head coach. I think there Urban and Gene Smith would at least talk to Luke about the possibility of staying around as an assistant.
I care so little about your level of care, that I decided to comment about it.
We've already beat Urban when he had Tebow. Bring it on Urban.
So a different team, with the same coach would obviously also lose to the same team with a different coach? So does the coach matter, or is it the team? Cuz then I'd have to point out that you've struggled against a certain team for the last 10 yrs, but maybe that was the coach?
I just couldn't resist trying to use logic on a poster with such an ironic screenname.
I'm not sure I follow your logic. What I'm saying is he's a fine coach and but he's beatable. The one team to beat him in a bowl just so happens to be Michigan and Urban was fielding a very fine outfit on that day: plenty of talent, defending National Champions. Make of that what you wish.
You said Michigan (as a team) has beaten Urban (as a coach) before. Therefore you were logically suggesting you would do it again. So I was saying, it is because your team, with a new coach now, is more important to the fact that you won than the who is coaching, because now Urban would be coaching a team that has beaten Michigan 9 of the last 10 times, but then I suggested jokingly that maybe it was because of the coach (Tressel).
point out it's not the same team with a different coach as you suggest but it's a different team with a different coach. I also recall that you struggled the 10 years prior to that. Was that the coach or the team? I say coach. Point is we don't know how Hoke would fare against Meyer but I would say that having his former DC is a plus not only on the field but in the living room.
I was just saying it's ridiculous to say one game in 2005 against Urban means you can beat Urban at OSU too, but I realize at least some ppl saying on it here were joking.
Anyway. Mattison is a force, he was a great get for you guys. Recruiting all the guy has to do for a young high school LB is hold up a picture of Ray Lewis and nod his head.
doesn't hurt that Borges has had some success against Urban Meyer teams.
P.S. - It was the 2008 in the Capital One Bowl.
Don't think this is true as of right now. Meyer just said after JoePa said he was retiring that he wasn't interested in coaching jobs. I don't think anything happens until after the NCAA gives their final sanctions. He very well end up being the coach there but oh well. OSU is a good program adn they'll probably have a good coach and good players no matter what. Can't expect them to hire a coach that will put them in an abyss for a couple years like we did.
This would be an absolutel coup for Ohio if they pull this off. After Saban, Meyer is probably the best coach in college football and we'd all have been going nuts had we been able to land him. All this talk about him never beating Michigan sounds a lot like OSU saying Cooper had beaten Michigan in a bowl game.
This is bad for MIchigan all the way around unless Hoke can live up to the challenge. So far so good, hopefully Mattison can counter Urban's recruiting.
Apparently, what's happened is that some troll tweeted falsely that "Rivals and Scout" were reporting Meyer to OSU (which they were not), and then in the crazy world of Twitter, that bogus line keeps getting retweeted.
I believe, as of today, this is true. There are too many independent sources, ones who are not prone to exaggerate (and who don't often agree), saying the same thing.
That doesn't mean things won't break down before an announcement (change of heart, NCAA ruling, etc), but these aren't just made up twitter rumors.
I couldn't have said it better, so I'll just this so hard it.
This, so hard.
The timing of this seems off to me, which has me doubting it. Would you really lame duck your coaching staff 8 days before The Game? Create all of the "which coaches will still have jobs", "which players may transfer", etc. questions running around the media, campus, and locker room during the week of The Game? Don't think anything will truly happen until after the regular season.
worked out so Urban can be at the halftime of the Duke game Nov. 29.
before all the NCAA investigations have completely run their course?
Because even the worst prospectus has us getting hammered for a maximum of 3yrs, which would be a typically coaching transition period anyway. If he signs a 5yr deal now, he'll be done with sanctions and have his recruits by Yr 4.
Would Urban Meyer go somewhere he'd have to be 3 yrs delayed before going to bowls or playing for championships? Dude could go to Ole Miss and start it up beginning of year two with his name and talent.
Because this is his dream job, returning home to coach where he learned how to coach.
I mean, it's his home, yeah, but he spent more time at Colorado State than he did at Ohio. I don't know about "learning how to coach."
Well I also don't know about it taking him less than 2-3yrs to get started anywhere.
But also, I think it's less about where you spend the most time vs. where you started out. It's not like he was coaching in Ohio for only a few months either. He's definitely apart of the OSU coaching tree.
Just curious, did Meyer ever say OSU was his dream job? I hear that constantly down here and I have no idea where it originated from. I thought Harbaugh would consider Michigan his dream job.
So you're saying it's possible that it's just an..."Urban Myth"
I've said from day 1, I'll believe it when I see it. The whole Clarett situation taught me that.
The NCAA? You mean the same NCAA that issued a bullshit punishment to make sure OSU's best players were eligible to play in the sugar bowl so they could ensure their bowl revenue? Delaney not only lobbied for that punishment, he actually publicly took pride in his efforts after the fact.
The NCAA will eat up Urban Meyer going to OSU with a spoon. They'll issue another bullshit punishment to save face, then gladly step aside and let Urban Meyer pick up their cash cow where they left off.
We just have to hang on to this class, let Hoke and Co. do their jobs, and we'll take care of business on the field.
Cash cow? I think we have been over this several times, the NCAA doesn't make any money off football. Its all in the bball tourney, at least according to most people around this board (who would definitely know better than I).
That's not to say I don't think they will get the bare minimum punishment, but it won't be for money.
If so, fine. It sucks that he will be a very good recruiter and coach, but the dude has serious health issues. If he wants to coach at 100%, which he will, he's going to have to realize that he's got another arachnoid cyst in his future, at best. He is such a good coach because he works incredibly hard, putting stress on his body.
If he really thinks one year off is enough to save him from future health scares, he's being really, really naive.
until I actually hear it from Meyer. Why would he agree to go to OSU now? First, NCAA has not issued its ruling. He does not know what he is getting with the program. Second, I know that he has expressed interest in the OSU job, but he just left Florida not too long because of alleged health issues (Perhaps it was for some other reason). Is he ready to jump back into the game?
It seems really childish to live in fear of another team selecting a head coach. So they get Urban Meyer... oh well. He'll give them, what, 3 years before his health forces him out again?
Hardly an earthshattering, world-domination hire. I'm sure he'll get them back to being perennial 9-11 game winners and B16 contenders, but I'm sure even with time, recruiting and not having 5 key starters suspended, just about any coach who walks into CBUS will get them back on track.
All your assistants are belong to us.
Also Al Borges helped beat Urban's 2006 and 2007 squads while OC at Auburn.
The fact that Urban Meyer happens to be one of the most universally hated coaches in the country is quite relevant. He may actually "belong" at Ohio State.
And who are we to prevent his right to be more universally hated?
Nothing is "done" until the contract has been signed. Things can change quickly. Especially when they involve NCAA punishments looming...
See all of the other things that have been said.
After The Process, I'll wait for the press conference to happen before I buy it.
Can osu really be stupid enough to hire another guy known for coaching teams filled with criminals? Probably.
Who cares!!!!! Ohio will be on probation for at least 2-5 years. Go ahead and coach those animals.