Report on Schlissel/Ross Meeting Friday with Donors

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Have posted this in one of the "hurrah" threads among 200 other posts; in light of Bacon's reference to "big donors" and his tweet re Schlissel's meeting with them over the weekend, I thought this would be a good new thread.  So, SIAP.

I was at the "meeting" JUB references.  Really was a talk in the Ross School's first-floor auditorium, followed by a reception at the business school's Wintergarden (?).  President Schlissel was joined by Stephen Ross on the dias for an introduction of Schlissel to the donors and about 30 minutes of Q/A led by Ross.

Audience was perhaps 125+ people in the auditorium at the b-school.  Mostly folks in for the weeked events at various schools at UM to kick off the official launch of the new Victors for Michigan campaign.  I assume that this group consisted of involved, pretty big money-giving alums, who are on various committees whose purpose is to organize fundraising outreach to the broader alum base (and of course, to give themselves).  

I was concerned when it was clear that Ross was going to ask Schlissel pre-programmed questions, and VERY concerned when the first question out of his mouth was what was on everyone's mind -- the athletic program.  Seemed that this was chance for Ross to get Schlissel to publicly support DB.

That did not happen.  Schlissel talked about understanding importance of athletics, big programs (FB, MBB, Hockey), and about how it is an integral part of the many things about Michigan that are important to alums, and that draw alums together.  Noted a broad feeling that the program had lost its "direction" and that a lot of people were pissed (not his word) about it.  Used the term "reset" -- deliciously ambiguous -- with respect to a going forward plan, and later referred to $5 water as an example of the "drift" of the program as between making $ to support athletics and serving the fan base.

Let the speculation about what this means commence  My own read was that I expected either nothing said on this topic, or for Ross to use it as a chance to publicly stand behind Brandon, neither of which happened.  Certainly nothing that was said committed Schlissel to any course of action.

Lastly, Schlissel recounted having visitied the football team to talk to them about hanging in there, you have our support, etc.  Got big laughs and applause when recounting how he caught an overthrown Devin pass (not sure he caught the irony of that), and noting that it was the one time over the last weeks a photog had not been present.  Finished by making clear that he thought the team deserved full-throated fan support.  Which is, generally, what I saw that night from my seats.

 

philidor's legacy

October 15th, 2014 at 7:11 PM ^

On this stage - at this time of year - everything gets magnified. Schlissel is a smart man - carefully taking the temperature of the campus and placating the masses by demonstrating a cursory involvement....buying time and standing with those whose wallet impacts direction....

davidhm

October 15th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^

I've said it a number of times when Ross is mentioned in regards to the AD situation, and I will say it again. His money, while appreciated by the university, is not a safety net for Brandon. Ross is a terrific alum who loves his alma mater. His gifts are to Michigan, not Brandon. While he may like Brandon, he loves the university more. He may try to save Brandon, but his gifts to the university will not be Brandon's saving grace.


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Njia

October 15th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^

I wouldn't want to play opposite him in a chess match or at a poker table.

Even if Brandon ultimately stays, the new President seems to have put him on a very short leash and is clearly in the process of housebreaking him. This is a new style of management that I first witnessed brilliantly executed when Alan Mulally became CEO of Ford. He didn't have to fire anyone. He simply made his expectations quite clear to his team and set the bar higher than many wanted to leap. They voted with their feet; the remaining folks wanted to be there and he secured their commitment to the change in the process.

Njia

October 15th, 2014 at 9:00 PM ^

The book "American Icon" tells the story pretty well and I know a few folks who have at least second hand knowledge of what happened.

Of course, there were a few people he let go. However, those were mostly the ones who were causing issues with the transition and what he wanted to accomplish. He didn't dismiss anyone simply because they weren't "his people," which is the usual pattern.

Ray

October 15th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^

The big concern I have now is that the (prospective) new AD gets all the support necessary to do a good job. When Brandon/Hoke fired Borges, DB was able to open the checkbook and pay the going rate for a competent OC. I think that was due to both Mary Sue's and the donor alums' support of DB. When the new prez says stuff like "athletics isn't (sic) part of the mission statement of the university" I get worried. Like the guy so far, and especially so since he's obviously willing to undertake big capital improvements, but whoever comes in as AD is going to need plenty of air cover to repair the football program.

bj dickey

October 15th, 2014 at 7:53 PM ^

I did see your post earlier and thank you for posting it as a thread. The interaction between Ross and schlissel is interesting and telling. I've thought and said that Ross is a friend of the university first and foremost. A such he is obviously a friend of athletics and therefore Dave Brandon. But mr Ross, of all people, clearly understands that Brandon is merely the steward of the athletic department, and will be gone sooner or later -- apparently sooner. Ross' interest is a lasting effect on the university -- which he will clearly have. The last thing he will do is jeopardize the university by causing any type of divide among the leadership.

umchicago

October 15th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

it seems pretty obvious to me.  he has been in hiding for weeks now which is highly unusual for him.  i'm guessing that the "buyout" with him has already been settled.  and once a new AD is selected, i would bet brandon is there at the announcement with schlissel welcoming the transition, allowing him to leave gracefully.

SamirCM

October 16th, 2014 at 3:22 AM ^

But rather avoiding a kiss of death, if Ross said anything that wasn't full-support for DB, that would be the end. He didn't make an irrational statements like, "If DB is fired I'll ____," but rather said something along the lines of, 'DB is a great DB." 

In the days after the loss to Minnesota, things were still unsettled, and I don't think Ross said anything out of line, he was going to be asked for his opinion as he is our biggest alumni donor. 

GoBlueSimon

October 15th, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^

I think donors need to look at it like fans do really.  We fans might like a person (I personally think Brady Hoke is a good guy, not so great coach), but if they don't fit the position they've got to go.  You root/support the program/team, not the individual.  If neither Schlissel or Ross were willing to publicly support DB or Hoke, it speaks volumes for how they feel about the situation, even if they didn't not publicly support either too.  Makes tomorrow's meeting with the Regents even more interesting now.

Sidepaluofm

October 15th, 2014 at 8:28 PM ^

So glad things are moving in this direction. 

Wondering if that would help give the team momentum. With their coach on the way out, maybe the team starts leading itself and showing us the raw talent they have. 

Go blue. 

pharker

October 15th, 2014 at 8:42 PM ^

The OP is pretty much right on. I hope s/he won't mind me adding a couple of details.

President Schlissel actually did point out the irony that he caught an overthrown pass. He said it might have been intentional, and then he stuck in a little verbal barb about a lack of improvement if it wasn't intentional. He also mentioned being mildly perturbed that he gets photographed everywhere he goes, but no one got a picture of him catching the ball. 

I thought his comments about the non-athletic parts of the university were great. He's focused on excellence, on capitalizing on the breadth of quality programs at Michigan, and on the Victors for Michigan campaign priorities of student support and bold ideas in particular, with plenty of room for development and refinement of goals as he gets further into the job.

As Schlissel was finishing a comment about the breadth of excellence at U-M, Ross's phone rang. The ringtone was, of course, "The Victors."

He closed his comments on the athletic department with these [I think exact] words: "We'll fix the problems, but let's be unified in supporting these kids." [referring to the players.]

Swazi

October 15th, 2014 at 8:46 PM ^

Saying time to hit the reset button certainly sounds like a change in leadership.

He is probably talking to candidates for a replacement, and trying to give Brandon as little as possible when he gets fired, ie, trying to get him to resign first.


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quakertown

October 15th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

Thank you for posting this OP.  I also echo the earlier comment stating appreciation and reverence of your service.

The president and now a prominent regent (denise ilitch) have said or alluded to too much to back off a removal process now.

I think, as nothing more than a theory, it happens late friday or during saturday's games trying to sneak it in.

bronxblue

October 15th, 2014 at 9:58 PM ^

Sounds like Brandon is on his way out, and that nobody is really going to stop it.  That said, the bigger issue has always been who takes over, and that's where I think we'll see the Regents and more of the political players step up.  I honestly don't know who will wind up at AD, but I kind of hope decisions are made sooner rather than later just to get the ball rolling.  I will say, and I mean this as someone who thinks Dave Brandon shouldn't be in his position and is kinda incompetent at it, I'm still always wary of the devil I don't know being no better than the devil I do.

 

gwkrlghl

October 15th, 2014 at 10:30 PM ^

He seems to be trying very hard to do this correctly and sensibly. He's shown a pleasant ear to the pubic outcries as opposed to taking a typical 'political' reponse that says nothing. Additionally I like how he seems to get the value of athletics to the university while also not looking at it like its a small corporation, but that its a side issue to the university as a whole, but a very important side issue to those involved. His comments at least have really impressed me so far.

BoFan

October 16th, 2014 at 1:46 AM ^

Has to spend political capital and lose student support if he backs Brandon...He gets nothing in return. He didn't get where he is today by making poor political decisions. I'd have to say Brandon will be out.

DrewGOBLUE

October 16th, 2014 at 4:41 AM ^

Really like President Schlissel so far; it seems like he already "gets it," to a surprisingly large extent, when it comes to sports at Michigan, namely football. I thought he'd be less outspoken on the topic while he became more familiar with the tradition and culture of Michigan Athletics, as well as the expectations of alumni.

I've actually always thought college athletics can have a slight, transitive effect on the perception of a school in terms of academics. Majority of headlines regarding any major university are likely sports related. So I think having successful sports programs that are cleanly run and scandal free, along with student-athletes that do well in the classroom, can cast a positive light on an institution's academic standards.

Not to mention, after players have graduated, seeing many fully dedicate themselves to charitable work is often an indictment of a good education. Billy Taylor and the Pahokee guys are great examples. On the #Eating webpage, Tay Odoms says "I hope to pass along my knowledge and teachings from U of M to Pahokee..."

OTOH, there may be schools like UNC which deliberately compromise the quality of education their athletes receive by creating "paper classes" for them. That's something I imagine can, and likely will, do a bit of damage to the academic reputation of a university at large.

At the end of the day, I like the fact that Schlissel places academics well above everything else on his list of priorities, so long as he still understands the culture and importance of athletics at Michigan. Maybe as President, he can even lift the University's academic reputation a bit (basically by moving up in the rankings) so that we're more or less akin to Stanford in terms of having a combination of elite academics with highly successful sports programs (not that Michigan is too far off from them anyway).


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jblaze

October 16th, 2014 at 7:47 AM ^

I don't think scandals or athlete graduation rates matter. Schools with great sports teams are viewed as better than those without.

Just look at schools like FSU, A&M, and bama. They are all average to awful, but most people don't think that. Look at MSU.

Yeoman

October 16th, 2014 at 11:09 AM ^

Random man-on-the-street polls. Which is the better academic institution...

  • Florida State or the U. of Chicago?
  • Texas A&M or MIT?
  • Alabama or Harvard?

There are other and better ways to establish a public reputation as an institution of higher learning than fielding a great football team.

MichiganAggie

October 16th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

You think A&M is an awful academic institution???

  • They are an AAU school
  •  8th among public universities in New York Times survey of business leaders worldwide based on the top institutions from which they recruit
  • 2nd in nation among universities based on "contribution to the public good," Washington Monthly
  • 2nd in the nation among public universities in "great schools, great prices," U.S. News & World Report
  • 2nd in nation for preparing graduates for the workforce, The Wall Street Journal
  • Top 10 in nation for return on investment, or what graduates earn in their careers compared to their college costs, PayScale