Your header is hilariously stupid. Let's say I tell my gf that she looks fat and will look that way until she dies. She freaks out on me and I say, "you misheard me, baby." Stop trying to make a point because it's not working. Let the adults with fully developed brains talk. Okay, hunny?
Reon Dawson clears the air.
As soon as I find any around here. But that certainly wouldn't include a vitriolic halfwit like you.
Sanctimony has no place when we're talking about a kid who hasn't yet graduated high school. No trolling intended, but you sir embarrass me as a Michigan fan. The fact that you refuse to understand that these are just the words of a high school kid you're getting all high and mighty about is despicable, and framing it as a "lying" issue to make it relate to his supposed ill-character makes it no better. I only hope the rest of the world understands that you are the minority and that we are ashamed to be associated with you.
After reading through a lot of your comments, you're what's wrong with Michigan fans. Arrogant, know it all, have to be right about everything kind of guy, who really doesn't have a clue what actually happened. Take your arrogant self somewhere else. We don't need this crap here.
Edit: Rederik, I couldn't agree more with you. I surely hope that people realize he's in the minority. Some people are just holier than thou types, who know everything about the world. Most Michigan fans, at least I hope, are not like this guy. I didn't see your post until now Rederik, but you said it best.
Maybe you're mostly responding to Butterfield, but if you look at my post I am in no way outraged by what Dawson said, either initially or in his backtracking statements thereafter.
I'm not saying he's a born liar, or that he'll never be able to stand as a true Michigan Man or any of that bulllshit. I'm just putting the fact that he's making up some bullshit about what his quote meant in the same category as the initial comments - he's just a kid, he talks without thinking, and that's all.
If anything, I just felt like I was taking crazy pills because so many people on the board were acting like this completely cleared things up and he was obviously just misunderstood. I was never outraged at all by Dawson, just flabbergasted that so many people bought what he was selling in the explanatory comments.
But once again, because people are very, very quick to jump on their high horse on this one: I really don't give a shit about any of his comments, and don't think they reflect on his character in a signficant way at all.
Addendum: In explaining this fiasco to my wife (she's a patient woman), I re-read the entire apology and was struck by how bad the kid felt. He probably fibbed about his real meaning in part because so many people were jumping down his throat, and because he felt genuinely sorry about it. So I should say that, on balance, the whole affair reflects well on his character, rather than not at all.
Actually, I believe Mike McCray mentioned that he was misquoted. Covering for a friend? Maybe. Who cares? He's 17 and he'll learn to hate that cesspool in Columbus the day he steps on campus.
You put it perfectly. All of these responses saying how sincere he seems and what a good kid he is are completely irrelevant. I guess it sounds good to them and they want to follow suit with everyone else. He is completely full of shit but show me a 17/18 year old that isn't.
He seems like a sincere kid. I have every hope for him to become an amazing athlete and human. I took another look at his highlights yesterday and was impressed. I think he could far exceed expectations.
I wish him all the best and I'd almost guarantee you that Coach Hoke jokes with him about it his first day at camp.
That was a very well-spoken apology,and as others have mentioned, it is unfortunate that it has come to this point. He seems like he has a great kid and very well on his way to being a Michigan Man, I would say, as he plainly wants to be a Wolverine. I wish him nothing but success on and off the field during his time in Ann Arbor. Welcome to Michigan, Reon, and Go Blue.
What happened to you? You're just spewing the company line. He said Ohio State specifically. He should get some flack for saying what he said. I'm sure someone had to take it too far but someone always does. High schoolers make dumb mistakes and rarely think about consequences.
When I was in high school I went off roading in my dad's suv and brought it back home with mud caked all over it thinking I could just talk my way out of it and lie. It didn't work. I was punished severely. Sure when all was said and done I apologized because I had learned my lesson but it doesn't mean that what I did wasn't idiotic. What is wrong with paying for your mistakes? It's how we learn not to make the same ones in the future.
But you got reprimanded by your father, not a bunch of strangers on the internet. It is not the same.
I ended up being ridiculed by his friends as well. Does that make a big difference to you? He can easily block his twitter and facebook accounts. Why do people need to have thousands of followers they've never met? Anyway, he is lying about what he said. I couldn't care less about his love for Ohio State. He plays for Michigan. Like Brabs has posted above, he'll end up changing his tune after being in the program for a while but to hear everyone patting him on the back while he lies is pretty disgusting.
You got ridiculed by your Dad's friends too?! You poor thing!
Reon got messaged by a bunch of strangers he could block? Poor thing.
I agree 100%. I vocalized a similar sentiment and people laughed at me. It's curious, since I taught MS and HS kids for six years, four years as a varsity coach, and that my perspective means nothing. Kids in this day and age think they and do and say anything with no consequence. You ask for complicit behavior, they scoff. "Gve me my wine", they say.
Facebook it, tweet it and it is a distant memory in five minutes. How about some damn accountability and learning from being a dumb ass teenager? Hold them to it. I even challenge all you how clearly are the same parents who defend their kids blindly to shut your traps, and actually look at the situation for what it is: disrespectful. I actually find it ironic that this morning on one of the most apologetic Michigan radio programs of all time, both Sam and Ira (biggest idiot of them all) had choice words about this situation. Even fing Ira wondered why McCray Jr was speaking for him. Reon can back track, maybe he was misquoted, doesn't matter now because he said it. He had people around him advising him and he still ignored how big words are in this day and age.
All this clarifying strengthens this point: he is gonna pay dearly for this; by the coaches, players and fans for a long time. The microscope got powered up and eye balls are a ready.
And as stated above, time will work it out. People will forgive and forget, or he will be another washout. I frankly don't care. I am too jaded by this idiot generation to take any more crap. I truly want him to prove me wrong, gut says he won't.
And for all those who will continue criticizing this thought, simple question: have you ever heard or seen a situation like this from another Ohio commit? This year? Last year? In the last twenty? That's right, because you haven't!
Except there is a major flaw in your rambling, incoherent "argument." That flaw being that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what the kid originally stated.
Who gives a shit if he is a Buckeye fan?
There have probably been thousands, upon thousands, upon thousands of kids who have committed to play for schools they weren't fans of growing up. If you look at the previous incarnation of this thread there was an MGoBlog member who is a Michigan fan, but ended up playing football at Bowling Green because he didn't get a scholarship offer to play for Michigan. Look at all of MSU players who have over the years stated that they wanted to play for Michigan, but never received an offer, so they became die hard Spartans as a result.
The story of Chris Spielman has been told countless times. He wanted to attend Michigan, but his father wouldn't let him, so he ended up at Ohio State.
This shouldn't be a blip on anyone's radar, but it has blown up into a ridiculous faux controversy, thanks to a few jackasses on twitter and other social media websites who have felt the need to attack a 17 year old over a few innocuous comments.
Those of you now trying to say that he "lied," keeping this story alive in a continued effort to besmirch this kid's reputation are even bigger jackasses.
Here's the bottom line for what happened:
A 17 year old kid made a totally innocuous statement about his football fandom.
A bunch of grown men were OUTRAGED by these "UNACCEPTABLE" comments and collectively proceeded to throw a ridiculous temper tantrum, vomiting a bunch of horrible, brainless, drivel in the direction of this kid via social media.
This 17 year old kid, obviously upset, and a bit stunned by the level of vitriol being thrown his way by people whose respect he wants to earn, immediately reverts to damage control mode. Desperately trying to win the approval of a bunch of overbearing man children with nothing better to do than shit on a 17 year old for not sharing the exact same opinions they hold.
Unsurprisingly, these man children don't accept his explanation or his apology, opting instead to shit on the kid relentlessly, while using this one tiny faux "incident" as a platform from which to lament the entire state of our modern day youth.
This entire debacle has been totally disgusting, and those of you who have aided in it's persistence ought to be ashamed.
You think our youth have lost any semblance of responsibility and decency? Why not have a look in the mirror.
It's a shame that a kid had to explain himself after one of the best days of his life.
I don't care what he said or how he meant it...he'll sport the maize and blue and his loyalty will be without question.
People tweeting him negative stuff is crap but he said what he said. To try and recant that is stupid. Accept that you said that and meant what you said and move on. I couldn't give two fucks if he still loves osu. He's playing for Michigan and it's not like he's going to tank a play to help them out. People sending him stuff on twitter are idiots and he's an idiot for making that statement.
Reon Dawson, you are number 1 in my heart.
Beat some OHIO ass Reon!
How's the kid supposed to know any different?
Once he gets on campus and gets into the culture of the school and the people and Ann Arbor, he'll naturally grow to love it!
I'm wasn't worried and his comments didn't bother me at all.
You don't know what you don't even know at 17!
Michigan and Ohio kids get the rivalry. It is going to be interesting to see how all these national recruits OSU is pulling in react to the rivalry. They are talented guys, but the most talented OSU and Michigan teams don't always come out on top in late November.
I ain't scared of them cats. Neither should you. BEAT OHIO.
It's really not a big deal. You made a great decision. We're all behind you, so start to enjoy it!
Good luck with everything. Go Blue!
I can't wait for next week when no one will give a shit.
for a couple of years, tell us she died of cancer, and then keep it quiet after you learn that it was all BS just before you are about to win a Heisman and play for the National Championship, well then we may be inclined to hold a grudge.
It's terrible that this even needs to be addressed further by Reon.
The kid is an Ohio State fan. So what? Everyone needs to get over it.
This is one of those stupid complexes that fans have where they think that every person who plays for their team or goes to their school has to show the same undying loyalty, or level of fandom that they have for their program.
This kid grew up in Ohio, most of his friends and family are probably Ohio State fans. He is an Ohio State fan, and it was probably his dream as a kid to be a football player at Ohio State, but he simply didn't receive an offer from the Buckeyes and now he has to settle for going to another school.
Sure, to Michigan fans the school he's "settling" for might be better in every conceivable way, but it wasn't his favorite school.
I'm certain that over the years there have been several die hard Michigan fans who have ended up at Ohio State for various reasons and in various capacities
It's no reason to attack to someone, or to make them do a shit ton of verbal gymnastics, to turn the thing they said into the complete opposite of what they said, in order to placate a number of idiotic Michigan fans.
The irony in all of this is that I bet those same douchebag fans tweeting this nonsense at him are probably the same people who mock Michigan State football players as just a bunch of guys who wanted to go to Michigan but couldn't get in, or didn't get an offer.
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Personally I could care less if he's got a Buckeye snuggie and a Brutus stuff toy collection the kid is coming HERE, not there, to play football which makes him one of us now. And he's all of 17 years old and Lord knows if there's anything you can count on it's 17 year old's saying stupid things.
What I would love to know is did any of the posters who were giving him so much shit yesterday have ever stepped foot on campus much less got a degree from Michigan?
Edit: TheLastHoke spoke far more elequently than I did but basically said the same thing. I could not agree more with his thoughts.
Your acting like a 5 year old.
My comment wasnt directed at you. You can be offended all you want but others were literally asking for him to not enroll because of his statement. But since you asked......
Angelos - Broken Egg or Bell's Diner?
Aut bar has 'em all beat.
...starting a sentence with "And." You may have also taken one too many brooms to the head while at Yost.
Shut your yap, Mr. I use a incomplete sentence with a period on top of two ellipses. You are a grammar zero. If you want to complain about grammar, learn some!
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Dude, Butterfield. You're a cool guy and I normally like what you post, but you're acting like Walter waving a pistol around. And I'm the Dude telling you to "take it easy man". Let's suppose you're right and this is a bald-faced lie. So what? "Michigan Men" (I actually hate that term) are made, not born. College is where you grow up and learn that you can't run from your problems. And if you are personally insulted by something a more or less random incoming freshman to your alma mater says, that's on you, not on him. So just step back from the mic for a few minutes and I'm sure this will magically turn into not-a-big-deal.
In summary, The Dude abides.
Like this kid treated Ohio State and Michigan. Your favorite changed.
If you could care less about his Buckeye snuggie and Brutus stuffed animals then I want to know how much we're talking.
Edit: I actually disagree with your post. People are intitled to their opinions, but if they're being assholes and sending him messages then it shows that this football thing is way too important to them. It's probably time to find a new hobby when you're a grown ass man and you're sending a high schooler hate filled messages. Anyway, what if some of those messages are coming from Michigan fans who are in high school. I say bring on the vitriol. Who better than your peers to degrade you and the comments you made?
I mentioned this in yesterday's thread:
It will work itself out. If the kid works hard and buys into Michigan's program, it will all work out and he'll be a Michigan Man. If he slacks off because he truly doesn't buy into what the Michigan program stands for, then he'll ride the bench for four years and say sayonara.
It's not about who he is now. It's about who he will be in four years.
...that this kid even had a make a statement.
Some people need to get a grip.
He's not from Ann Arbor now, he's from Ohio. Just because he's a Wolverine doesn't mean he has to swear off any ties to "the Buckeye state," or that he can't be proud of being where he's from.
My heart dropped a little when I saw this thread. Honestly it sucks that what should be one of the happiest, most important times of his life is partially ruined by a dumb comment and douchebag fans. It makes me embarrassed to be a part of the same fanbase as some of the clowns who make twitter comments or whatever that caused him to do this.
Honestly when is it going to become socially taboo for people to say cruel shit to one another in anonymous or semi-anonymous forums online? I think as a society people need to decide that acting like bullies online, even when it's anonymous (especially when it's anonymous?) just shouldn't be socially acceptable.
Unortunately, they remind me a lot of the devisive RR days. Most of us here embraced the Hoke hire because of its unifying effect on the Team and fanbase. I honestly wonder what Bo would say about the situation; I suspect something about "The Team."
Give the kid a break, he is just being an 18yr old, and so what if he likes Ohio, give him a year around Hoke and the team, and will see what happens then..he will prolly never go back to that shitty state lol
And your comment proves your own point Cornwallce.
I think he was misquoted. He said he loves the state of ohio and it got reported as loving ohio state. But it really doesn't matter. A teenager shouldn't have to feel bad for saying he loves something. Even if that thing is OSU. It's ludicrous reading this statement from a kid apologizing from the bottom of his heart because his love hurt our feelings.
This is the reason moron fans should not get upset by every little story. Because as often as not, the story is largely made up by moron reporters.
The kid's not even a freshmen yet; it's ridiculous that fans are holding his feet over the coals for a misquote, or even for a misstep in communication on his part if thats what happened. But questioning his loyalty to the team, such that he feels the need to say this? Awful. He signed his LOI with us, and he was obviously seen to enough of a Michigan Man by coach Hoke to get that scholarship, and that should be enough to satisfy all of us.