Remove the point system
I think the pos-banging thread was a product of the temporary restrictions placed on the point system. It'll run its course and things will get back to normal.
FWIW, I thought it was fun to have a light-hearted thread after the events of the past couple weeks. While there has been a little noise on the site due to recent events; I see no shortage of useful commentary.
EDIT: BTW, posbang welcome.... ;)
+1, as requested.
While I understand where you are coming from, if you glance at the last few posts on the front page, people seem to come here for more than just information.
I know that personally, every time I get on here I laugh my ass off at least twice. I like jokes. I really like football and sports-related jokes. Welcome to the Promised Land.
I actually think the point system serves as a self policing method of encouraging quality posts. Granted once you get over a certain threshold points are meaningless, I would say conscientious visitors to this blog are attentive of whether or not they are getting negged or +1'd for any particular post.
U smell like ghey balls dood!! LOL tressel is a homo!!! Go BLUE!
How is the above not quality content? I love seeing this 100 times each time I read a Michigan article on Yahoo or ESPN. Matter of fact, I say we neg anybody with a valid point or opinion. Valuable content is not allowed on the internet...
best post on the internet.
If he doesnt care about points then he won't mind if I do THIS!! *presses +1 by accident* Oops.
Toasting in an epic bread, btw.
God help that I not have to wade through the trogoldyte thinking of the ESPN commentator. Screw that. The OP might not like the point system but it is what it is...and also, regarding the points, it's high time we re-adopted some previous practice in the matter...
there is way too much self indulgent crap published. some people only come on here and comment on other posts. and about one in 5 posts could be idiocy on any site.
the points mean nothing. kill the points and have M Go Blog nazis taking down crap.
Er, I mean I disagree. Whatever -- I just wanted to come on here and comment on other posts, while also earning a meaningless point. Now that I've achieved my purpose, the post Nazis may take down my self indulgent crap.
Sorta makes you wonder why some people keep coming back to this blog, doesn't it?
Ok, but if the purpose of the point system is to be able to neg trolls or even non-trolls for troll-like posts, why is it free to upvote a post but it costs points to downvote a post (effectively forcing you to downvote yourself in order to downvote the bad post)? We just learned that charging for voting kills voting. So, now, pretty much you will have all the orgy upvoting with no down voting. I don't see how that will help limit the bad posts.
By changing the upvote from 1pt to 2 pts, it makes it much easier for a troll to get to the 20 pts needed to post and vote. The changes in the voting system actually make trolling easier and reduce whatever benefit the points system brought to the board in the first place.
The manic-depressive swings that have taken place over the last 48 hours are unusual around here. The silly threads yesterday served as a cathartic release for a bunch of folks (like myself) who really spend way too much time dwelling on Michigan football. Things will settle down, unless of course thunder-doom god decides to strike again.
You must not read much during football season
Voting is the American Way, man. How did you even log onto MGoBlog from your Chinese computer, you damn Commie?!?!?!
Noticing your point total compared to the OP's, it doesn't surprise me that you accuse him (rightly so) of class warfare.
Between Brian, me, Blue in South Bend, and MGoShoe, we've earned enough MGoPoints to purchase the entire island of Crete.
I wouldn't do that now. Way too much political turmoil in Crete right now. I'd bankroll the points and save up for the Canary Islands.
What part of "secret plan to buy Crete" did you not understand?
I thought you said "secrete plan to buy Crete." My bad.
Sounds messy. Are you looking for another investor? What I lack in MGoPoints, I can make up for in secretions (I think).
that's a shitty thing to say
Which part was shitty?
Geaux Blue was riffing on your "secretions" line...I think.
Secretion in human tissues
Many human cell types have the ability to be secretory cells. They have a well developed endoplasmic reticulum and Golgi apparatus to fulfill their function. Tissues in humans that produce secretions include the gastrointestinal tract which secretes digestive enzymes and gastric acid, the lung which secretes surfactants, and sebaceous glands which secrete sebum to lubricate the skin and hair. Meibomian glands in the eyelid secrete sebum to lubricate and protect the eye.
I tend to be human and therefore secrete lots of "stuff". That's all.
hence the joke.
i made a poo joke
Don't worry, it's just another drop in the bowl.
(And Geaux-Blue...I'm just looking...is your dog SMILING?)
he has this weird thing when he wakes up where his hair is just everywhere and he's ridiculously sleepy/grumpy. i happened to catch him with a polaroid as he woke up. it's likely a yawn
OP, if you were looking for an example of the lighthearted OT joking that makes me laugh my ass off, see this entire conversation. This blog is a community, and occasionally that community needs to go off on a math-pun tangent [sic] or have fake GoogleWave coversations or have a jolly ol' posbang.
Don't be stingy...it's not like we're dancing monkeys.
Well, maybe Magnus.
(He has the points. He can have the broad shoulders to take it).
Thanks for ruining the surprise of my Halloween costume.
I guess I'll have to change my cliche-turned-costume to "Fish in a barrel"...er...uhhh...oops.
Magnus spilled the beans, so we're back to the drawing board. There's a great little island just south of here. I don't want to tell the "non-elites" on the board, but it rhymes with "Marbados"
And it is because of these three short posts in a row (by Blue in Southbend, Magnus, and MGoShoe) that they have rightfully acquired the needed point to purchase their own little iron.
especially that caramel-skinned hottie, Kim. Yummy!
a home for Shoe to dock his big boat.
Hey, if I cared about the Navy, I'd join it.
(Also, if I weren't afraid of sharks, large bodies of water, and Leonard DiCaprio's ghost.)
Why did no one throw a mattress overboard? Everyone is flailing around in the water but for some reason there's a random door just floating there? The door is huge, why can't he get on it too? If you have two people, why do they stop talking to each other and let him just fade off? WHY? WHY???
That Leo is a versatile guy. He has taken land, sea, air, and now dreams.
What the h*ll happened to my "The More You Know" pic?
Zach Morris wants you to not do drugs.
damnit...now i need a new avatar...
They're like the junk bonds of MGoPoints.
For my first good laugh of the day...
And I was just about to take a sip of my coffee when I read that.
Also, a post saying "Get rid of MGoPoints" is just as useless and creates just as much clutter as the official Pos-bang thread.
I would say it's more useless. I actually felt happy while on this site for the first time in a while last night.
But... wait... I mean if you take away the point system on MGoBlog then I might as well just die! CG, I beg you, PLEASE don't make Brian get rid of the only good thing in my life.
I can't claim to have been around before the points system, but was the quality of the board that much better? I have to believe that there were still useless and inane comments then too. I know the points system has often made me reconsider if something I might post is really worthy to be posted.
I also find it useful to judge the validity of information provided. I realize there are problems with that, but generally, it shows me who has been proven to be wise and knowledgeable about U-M athletics.
The board was MUCH better when Haloscan was around. You should be sorry that you missed out.
No pretty pictures, not threading, you just had to be willing to read through and follow the arguments. Those were the days....
Ah, Haloscan! Those were the good old days when we didn't neg-bang on fools, but hurled plenty of insults at comments from someone cowardly named "anonymous".
Oh Haloscan, how we miss your simplicity! /sarcasm
Hey, I was named "anonymous"!
Cosign re: Haloscan. Ahh, the halcyon days of refreshing Haloscan during the coaching search, with flight tracker updates! There was no MGoBoard or Diaries at that time. It was just Brian's posts, and then massive conversations would break out in the comments. The thing is, though, there were about 1/10th as many people commenting at the time, so it was actually pretty sweet. Unfortunately, I think this place has gotten too big for Haloscan now. BRIAN SOLD OUT! (Kidding. The site is, overall, a much better place where I spend more time now, due almost exclusively to the addition of the diaries, Brian's small army of Tom and Tim, and the OT stuff. It's grown into a community, really, of people connected by a common religion- Michigan sports).
The larger Holoscan comment threads were impossible to read through. The current system is much better on the eyes (at least it was with the boxes) and has a higher content to spam ratio thanks to voting. Not even close.
I loved to live chat games on haloscan. There were only a few dozen regulars (if that). Every halftime Magnus would come and yell at everyone who was doom and glooming it.
Haloscan didn't immediately precede the points version of this board. We went about a year (from the revamped site's launch in June 2008) to whenever it was last summer when Brian introduced points. To answer the earlier question, points definitely didn't hurt the quality of the board. In fact, they've cut down on people arguing back with trolls. It's simpler to just neg them.
I have been on the board for about a year now. Here is the logic I have come to realize about the "point" system. You need to make comments and do things that people like or respect on the board. When you do that, you get "rewarded" with a point. When you get enough points, you get further "privileges" to make post, diaries and more comments. In other words, you have to earn you status and respect on the board from the other community members. It is a system (not a perfect one) to keep things focused mostly on Michigan sports, funny shit happening in the world around us, keeping trolls out and having fun. Which by the way, is what I think the post dedicated to "pos banging" was all about. It was intended to be "Fun".....
The Blog is a microcosm of the world we live in. Yes there are some dumbass posts on the board, jackasses, morons, repetative topic beatdowns, etc. But if you filter this stuff out (like you have to do in real life), there are some pretty interesting dudes, topics and information available on this site......
Lighten up, get laid and have some fun....
The posbang was in no way intended to be "fun". You guys totally hijacked that thread...
Also, I think I may steal that last line. Wise words my man. Wise words.
they missed the posbang?
I'd +1 you in solace, but that would only mock your intentions. Carry on
because I just +1ed you to mock OP's intentions.
But where will I go for my misplaced affirmation of my existence?
Strip clubs I guess, like everybody else.
Given 1) the uproar over [Michigan]'s attempts to add some [scoring] to the system and 2) having a [million] post['s] dedicated to "[how Michigan will score points]", I think it's become pretty clear that the point system [in college football] is nothing more than a status-quo outlet for the attention-deprived, looking for some misplaced affirmation of their existence. It's become a detriment to the quality of the [sport] since people are too busy jonesing for points instead of providing useful [football].
Just let the two teams play. You don't need to keep score; it will be readily apparent to everyone which team is better. Why assign arbitrary point totals to various activities. The current system has created a touchdown bias, and is just a way to keep the kickers down.
Under the "no-points" system, this comment would have spawned a political thread that would have been useless! Now its just funny and we move on. Points equal Good!
We should be allowing both teams to claim a "W" for the effort, and ban "L"s.
They are a part of me.
IMO, the points have done a tremendous job cutting down on useless and inflammatory posting. I attribute the point system with doing away with 98% of the posts and comments pertaining to national politics that would pop up before the system was installed. Posbang for MGoPoints!
The facsination with the fascination with MGoPoints is as facsinating as the fascination itself.
but you're out of your League with this one.
From my cold dead fingers
the first rule? Banged into oblivion, that's what.
...you don't mind if we take them away from you then?
I mean, we just got them back...you think this post is going to make Brian see the light and flip right back?
I just posbanged this entire thread, because I disagree with you.
What would that be like? Head over to MLive, where the users dutifully respond to all trolls, no matter how ridiculous, and a guy who feels compelled to give the SW Michigan weather report every day is considered a sage observer of UM football and everything else.
Not much is better than watching someone meltdown and lose 300 points
Plus it shouldn't cost me a point to neg-bang the_big_house_500th
/braces for negbang
The good Lord chose not to bless me with charm, athletic ability... or a fully functional brain. My MGoPoints are the only thing I have going for me.
I'm really bummed I was not here for the posbang. That was truly hilarious reading.
I could see using a number of other reasons for asking to eliminate points, but citing the posbang was a major misstep. In a weird way it actually sort of felt like reading the haloscan board again.
I guess it's either that or I was merely reminded of the coaching search during the Woolfolk freakout...
Regardless of people on here saying how much the accumulation of points helps with the content quality on here they are misguided or flat out full of shit. In case you haven't noticed Brian has created a system of points in genius fashion for all the little MGOBLOG crack addicts on here that cant keep there ass off the site all day and will keep hitting the site over and over and over and over again just to accumulate and be heard. Its why I barely ever comment anymore. This is the best site ever for info on all things Meeeeeeechigan. But its really just a big whiners clinic when it comes to the majority of comments anymore. So keeping or getting rid of the point system is pretty much a dead issue. Brian would never get rid of it. Bad business if he did. If I owned a site, i'd take that model in a minute. Points = imaginary status yet you don't have to do anything no matter how many points the person gets? Wow thats perfect.
but anyone who uses the word "retarded" as an insult on a public forum of educated people has absolutely no credibility, especially when it comes to judging those people or the points system.
If you want anyone to really listen to your arguments, you may want to forget the name-calling and stick to logic and facts. Reading any of Brian's posts may even teach you how to do this.
I don't know what Tater wrote that was anti-Semitic but I do know what you wrote in the moderator action thread (since deleted):
"Doesn't free speech include the right for me to be a dick?" or something very similar.
I say just be yourself, no one will think you're acting like a dick.
I am writing this to get negbanged, isn't that just so hilarious?
it's an example of the pot calling the kettle blacker. obviously racist and homophobic comments are deleted on sight (and if they're not mention where they can be found in the moderation thread so they can be) but being a dick because LOL I PISSED SOMEONE ON THE INTERNETS OFF is not exactly fun either. there's been a lot of self-amusing to the detriment of the board lately.
No one has tried to claim "pot calling the kettle black" is racist here. Yet.
And all self amusing should be done behind closed (internet) doors.
Go back and read some of Tater's old posts at Midnight Maize or his blog and you'll realize why DB is calling him out (and why we kicked Tater off MM). Plus, look at DB's sig. We didn't vote him as biggest douche for no reason, although it was just for fun.
I agree with this somewhat. I actually think this blog is becoming somewhat cluttered with newbies/threads/diarists that don't add a great deal to the site, but post anyway. The mods do a good job of moving stupid diaries to the MGoBoard, but I think more threads should be deleted.
As this site gets bigger and bigger, more people will filter in and clutter it up. That's good for Brian in some respects, but I think it also pushes away people like you. I actually find myself posting less because after the 8th thread about the same thing, I just get fed up and stop reading the board for awhile.
I used to read just about every thread on here. Now I probably read 10% of them.
is people who write "I think" posts that have little to no research or foundation and are generally a rant they would deliver in a bar at 1 in the morning. these are comments, not thread/diary topics.
Yeah...instead of finding a thread about whether Gardner will redshirt and bumping it to the top by commenting on it, people just start another thread about the same topic. It becomes tiresome for readers. Those are the threads I wish would be deleted.
considering you've been on the wrong end of arguments where you yelled one thing and people voted down in silent response.
also Brian would likely argue the point system has been invaluable for finding trolls in threads and determining which posters merely accumulate negatives, thereby demonstrating a "negative" presence.
9 times out of 10 (i being the 1), people with high points contribute significant research, etc.
i'm just here to meet girls.
I think it's become pretty clear that the point system is nothing more than a status-quo outlet for the attention-deprived, looking for some misplaced affirmation of their existence.
It sounds like somebody's projecting
SUCK IT, TREBEC!!!!!
Shouldn't that be "Shuck it, Trebek?"
NO! Save the MGoPoints!
Negged for only having 200-something points.
except you, OP. You only get dong punches.
Come on, we have endured enough dong punches in the past 48 hours.
I grew up in the MgoBlog errors of "the first rule of MGoPoints is that we don't talk about MGoPoints." Once that rule was broken, all hell broke loose.
First, Brian started talking about them on the main page with the attempted new system (hello New Coca Cola). Then people started commenting on them. Now, we have whole comment threads devoted to nothing more than talking about MGoPoints.
You know who I blame for all of this? RR. He came in now the tradition of not talking about MGoPoints has been destroyed.
I would not be rewarded for an awesome Johnny Lawrence montage.
Getting points is fun!
I am deeply grieved by the crisis this MGoPoint system has caused.
Will our beloved board be saved?
I offer to take this burden on myself - if you will petition Brian to appoint me emergency executive MGoPoint powers!
I will monitor content and - only at the greatest need - negate or add unlimited points to any account with grave and thoughtful consideration.
I will use this power only for good and only with deep reservations.
When this body has democratically resolved the MGoPoint issue, I will lay down these powers, as no man should be so encumbered - except when the greater and moral good requires this yoke to be taken up by a strong hand.
I've seen Star Wars. I know how this ends.
Or should I say, Darth Sidious?
I'm calling shenanigans. Everyone grab your brooms.
i came here for help with my depressed condition relative to my insane UM football obsession. I never commented, just read. Mostly front page stuff. Therapy really. The freaking games used to be my therapy. Now its why I need this. So, my head was about to explode and I started to comment a few weeks ago. Felt better. Got a few points. Last night I got swept up in a posbang and my God....I feel cured. But wanting more now. What the hell has happened.
And besides, like others have said, last night's thread was kind of fun and amusing. There's nothing wrong with that once in a while when tensions get high late in the offseason.
...damn newbie, ease up.
"Kid park my car, take my bags and put on some weight, would ya"
Given 1) the uproar over Brain's attempts to add some utility to the system and 2) having a post dedicated to "pos-banging", I think it's become pretty clear that the point system is nothing more than a status-quo outlet for the attention-deprived, looking for some misplaced affirmation of their existence. It's become a detriment to the quality of the board since people are too busy jonesing for points instead of providing useful commentary.
If you want to talk about brain's, you might want to go to med school. If you're talking about Brian, i wouldn't want to have his responsiblities. The poor man is trying his best to be amenable to all concerns. I think he is doing a fantastic job, i do not think anyone could reasonably ask for more.