Refs

The game thread was about 97% ref griping.

no they were bad..but we still had a shot to win and didnt succeed. cant blame the refs for missing free throws, open threes, or the last shot

Dude we are not gonna sound like little brother right now and bitch about the refs. We had the finally shot of the game to tie or win the game and we failed to execute. Nothing on morris for that he makes it 9 out of 10 just happened to be the one miss that one time. You should give an applause to this teams hard work and effort this season to get somewhere where they weren't predicted to be. In the end hats off to the 2010-2011 University of Michigan Men's Basketball team. You played your ass off. Thanks for everything!!! GO BLUE!!!!

I understand the gripe but the refs were pretty consistent with how they called it.  I feel like they just favored the more aggressive play.  How many times did you see UM going to the hole (when it wasn't a wide open dunk)?

you should see the twitters, they were aflame!

nothing worse than I expected...

The refs may have been bad but they were consistently bad, and in a sport that is as hard to call as basketball that's all you can ask for.  They didn't effect the outcome of the game that much as they made bad calls for both teams.

Ha the refs were terrible. Especially for the first 30 minutes. The last 10 minutes they seemed to get a little bit better, but not by much.

dont be that guy.  this was a well officiated game, and about ten times more even than a typical duke game.  i can remember one out of bounds play that i couldnt believe they gave to us, and we got a bunch of 50-50 calls, especially in the beginning of the game.  at the end our guys got tired from dealing with the press all day, and they comitted some legit fouls

not to mention the fact that they just gave beilein a warning when they could have teed him up

goes to the line more than their opponents because they put themselves in a position to do so.  Seeing the fouls rack up is hard to watch, but not because the refs are giving anything to them.  They are in the right spot faster than their opponent, thus, foul. 

Duke played a fucking great game and they beat us head up.

I hated the way they called the game but I thought they were pretty consistent especially considering we were playing Dook.

I dont think it was well officiated but I wouldn't say it favored either side. Twice I thought the ball clearly went out of bounds off our guy but we got posession.

Michigan committed a ton of stupid fouls.

I thought that the refs were a little too partisan at the start, but at the end they just let the two teams play.  I've seen some really bad Duke-ist refs, but these guys weren't horrible.  Duke won because they were a bit better; let's not bitch and moan about it.

in the end the refs didnt keep Michigan from hitting open threes. No need to get worked up over something that is irrelevant at this point. Enjoy the great season.

Go blue!

it was a basketball game

I think the refs were fair, just that they called a tighter game than most Big Ten refs do.  That in itself is advantage Duke since they are more aggressive off the dribble and got a lot of free points off of it.  Outside of Darius Morris we don't have anyone who can take advantage of the way the refs were calling the game.

consitently...maybe they got away with hand checks, and ticky tack calls went against us

but we were holding jerseys and quite a few of the tick tack calls were fouls...they called it that way against duke too

I was in both bitch fests over reffing against Ohio State but I thought this game was fair. Calls made on both sides, some were meh calls but at least they seemed to be evenly distributed meh calls.

I thought the officiating was awful.  11 free throw attempts to Duke's 25 should tell the tale.  The refs have to swallow the whistles and let the kids play.  Call the hard fouls and let the touch fouls go.  Make sure the game doesn't get out of hand but don't control the tempo of the game by calling a foul every time a Michigan kid makes contact with a Duke one.  I wanted to throw my remote through the TV. 

It wasn't awful but it was called tight. The whole 25 fts to 11 ft thing is dumb. Michigan lives on the 3 point line. Go back and look at past box scores. They shoot the least amount of FTs in the big ten. And no they dont get bad refs every game. Hell look at the last game. Their style is the cause. 

Now I ref varsity basketball and I have said this a millions of times on here. You guys really dont have a clue. Hate me if you want but if you joined up and did High school ball instead of bitching about it you would know what I was talking about. The refs were consistent all game with calling it tight. Michigans guys like Evan,morris and Tim just cant move their feet as well to stay in front of the Duke players. Thus fouls were called when their hips are bodies made contact. 

It wasn't that bad. Stop taking away from how well the team played today and accept we lost by two points to the former champs. 

about basketball rules.  But I will say that using the "So and so got more fouls than us, thus the reffing was lopsided and horrible" argument is a disgrace.  It actually is possible for one team to play significantly more or less dirty than the other, surprise of the century I know.  If Michigan had the 25 free throws and Duke had 11 who here would be complaining?  Bitch about officiating all you want.  I'm all for giving it to the refs when they suck, they're never going to get better if they think they're doing well, or at least that they aren't getting caught doing it poorly.  But have a real argument.  Don't just bring up the number of fouls (free throws, penalty minutes, penalty yards, whatever it is, I don't care) being uneven and use that as your basis for judging the refs, because that means nothing and it just plain stupid.

that argument is that Duke shot 20 threes as well. There wasn't that much of difference between the two teams, in terms of the amount of times they attacked the basket or shot an outside shot.  Duke was not agressively attacking the basket on alot of their possessions either and was settling for a lot of outside shots. Basically the two teams shot an almost indentical percentage, the difference was the free throws.

I have no problem if people want to complain about the officiating in this game. The bias for Duke wasn't as pronounced as it is normally is, but it was still there to some extent. The foul trouble for our guys was pretty significant, Singler was the only Duke player in foul trouble. I saw alot of handchecking on the perimeter that was being called on UM, but being let go when I saw it occur on the other end.

With that said the better team did win, and it doesn't take away from the great effort by UM to make the game close.