That last bit could be bad news also considering the way we've been playing.
spoiler alert: i linked this
That last bit could be bad news also considering the way we've been playing.
i gotta say, this made me laugh
Does he think that Doles will drop this weekend or are they other possibilities? Westphal, Bars etc.
Two trusted sources of mine say Doles will be the next commit. Obviously that's not taking a huge risk saying that. But, they say if it's anyone this weekend it will be Doles.
You claim to be an IU student (presumably a Junior since you mentioned interning), not this Coach Brown dude, yet you vehemently defend him and have two sources on a 2014 recruit. Interesting...
If he is the same guy it's a significantly less entertaining revelation than the RDT experience. Unless, of coures, they are all the same individual.
They are all fragments of your shattered psyche, fighting for survival in a motel while attempting to figure out how they are all related to each other. But the motel is in your mind! And John Cusack is there.
So because I'm a Junior at Indiana University, this somehow makes me not have sources who know things? Good logic there. And I am an Indiana University student, complete with an Indiana University student ID(campus access card), class schedule, email, and job at Rec Sports. It's like I'm a real human being and everything, oh wait.........
whats your source? i looked on his website and twitter and it didn't say anything about Scott.
— Justin H (@JKillinIt248) February 26, 2013
@jkillinit248 he won't be a Wolverine.
— CoachBrown TheMBlock (@CoachBrown3) February 26, 2013
He then goes on to explain that Scott just isn't very high on Michigan. He'll likely stay in the south.
+1 for still being here.
I thought the mods were going to cut off your johnson.
Apparently you don't fuck with the Magnus around here.
Fucking with Magnus isn't why he should be gone.
Twitter does this annoying thing where it defaults to not showing replies when you look at someone's page, so that's probably why you can't see it.
Not sure about this guy. People in the know seem not to be overly fond of him.
Not trying to be mean here, but could you expand on that? He runs a free site, the recruits all seem to like him pretty well, and he's giving all his info free. Basically just filling the void that Steve(Tremendous) left.
Well for one Steve has been pretty harsh about Coach Brown and his tactics.
Yeah, so I see now on Coach Brown's twitter. I just hope it's not that Steve is upset because Coach Brown is now sharing free info he gets straight from recruits. He's also more connected with current commits then Steve it seems, so I'm just hoping Steve isn't mad over that kind of stuff. That would seem very petty and no I'm not trying to take a side or be mean. Just voicing a thought.
He doesn't post new info he just reposts VIP stuff. And I highly doubt he is more connected to recruits as he just bugs them for info. You don't see coach brown posting shit about Hand while Steve is in regular contact with Hand's coaches, comon now.
This is where you're definitely wrong. Coach Brown is very connected to Ferns. He's also connected to Harris. Coles also told him the night before he commited(and only him as far as "outsiders" go) that he would commit. He's also connected to Speight. So yes, maybe he doesn't have a good connection with Hand, but not every report is going to talk to every recruit. He also doesn't repost VIP stuff, that's a flat out lie. Please, show me where that's happened?
You seem to have a grudge against him as well, so why say Steve is the one? Steve said his piece and Coach Brown replied. Coach Brown has also talked to Steve and then Steve pretended like he was just some random guy. I think it's becoming more obvious that Steve is just upset about Coach Brown sharing stuff for free.
I don't have a dog in this fight. Coach Brown does this completely free. No revenue from site clicks, no ads, nothing to make him money. Everything he does is completely free. He does it because he enjoys it. So, like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight. I appreciate that Coach Brown shares stuff for free and it's not just reposting VIP stuff. So, even though I don't have a dog in this fight, I also won't let you just make up lies. Just because Steve is upset about it and makes baseless accusations doesn't make it concrete. So there's that. If you don't like that he shares info for free, and that I post it on here for others to read, that's fine. Just don't read the thread or reply. But don't come in making false accusations about something you don't know about. That's all besides the fact that Coach Brown doesn't have a VIP account anywhere that I know of, so how do you repost something you don't even have access to?
Also, you can neg me all you want. That doesn't make you right.
of typing for someone with no dog.
Or I just hate people misleading others? And saying false things that they don't really know anything about. Especially not when it seems like mainly it's just Steve being upset over the new guy on the block. Again, no hate towards Steve. I honestly don't care that much. I only typed that much because I'm trying to avoid my homework and I'm bored. IU stinks. And I also will never understand why people would dislike someone who shares free info, straight from recruits? I'm a poor college student, and I certainly don't have the money to pay for VIP stuff. So I can appreciate someone who is willing to take their own time and share info for free with others. Which is why I like MGoBlog so much, but man people around here seem really.....I don't even know how to describe it....lately.
You're promoting this site, and it sure seems unlikely that "Coach" Brown would do a lot of work just for fun given that "recruiting insider" can be a career. I don't pretend to know the truth or even care much, but people are hardly being overly cynical here.
I am only "promoting" it because he asked on facebook if anyone knew how to post threads on MGoBlog, because he didn't understand the point system. I offered to post some updates every once in a while as I saw fit, especially since it's free info. And he may have a job in mind at some point, but as it is, he's completely free and get's absolutely nothing. I really do come off caring much more than I do. I mean in actuality I don't even care a ton about most things in real life. So a guy I hardly know at all, on a message board, with people I don't know? I think it's just the principle of it for me. I would defend anyone who I think is getting an unfair shake, that's just the way I am.
So you lied. You are affiliated/have a dog in this fight.
I do not. How does that make me affiliated with him? I was just trying to him a favor, which in no way relates to me. Other than me copying some of the stuff I think is relevant to here. I literally could care less. I will continue sharing free info from him, because it's free. If I read something else for free, I share it as well, as long as it's good info. Regardless of who it came from.
"and he may have a job in mind at some point" seemed like you were referring to a job for yourself but if not then I take that back.
wow big subthread
Sorry, poor english on my part. I'm trying to avoid thinking to hard. I meant he may want to some day become a paid guy like Steve. I absolutely don't want to do anything like this at all. I am too busy doing school work and planning for my internship this summer. Then I'll be way too busy to ever be able to bother with trying to get ahold of recruits and stuff. It's just not my thing. Sorry if that was misunderstood, I absolutely will never have a recruiting related job.
point system needs to be contacting recruits.
First you sound like you're affiliated with coach brown. Second I didn't neg you so talk more. Third many of his reports come after reports from other sources. I'm not going to waste my time to find specific examples and post them here. I trust Steve and from what he has said it doesn't seem that he is just upset that coach brown is a free site, they have a free thread on 247 for example. Remember, Steve and his group came from the free sites and I doubt he has so quickly forgotten his roots.
I am not in any way affiliated with him. In fact, I do not know him outside of a facebook group we've both been on since like 2007, with thousands of members. You also just seem very upset for some reason? Which is what I don't understand? Why the hostility? And what makes you trust Steve so much more than Coach Brown? How much do you actually know about him? Probably not a whole lot in real life, correct?
Ooookay Michael Vick, enough about dog fighting.
So, Coach Brown= RDT & MJ14=Wolverineinabag???
So outside of perhaps posting paywalled info, he is using tbe same playbook that Steve used to parlay a hobby into a job at 247?
The M Block has a long way to go before it can fill the void left by Tremendous.
And FWIW, the dude named Tyler Desy who writes for that site really needs to take some English courses. I immediately stopped reading his stuff; it's that painful.
Yeah I read one thing by him too and decided I would never do that again. I enjoy the interviews and the free info, but some of the writing and reporting is bad.
Probably because he's the new guy giving info for free, which pisses them off.
When Steve first started he was accused of stealing material. Sam Webb and Mike Farrell fight with each other too. It's a competitive business, people are going to dislike each other.
I'm sure you don't care, but I'll offer my opinion anyway.
I don't dislike him personally (aside from him trolling for follows from me a couple of times), I just don't view him as a very good reporter.
He's a blatant homer...all the time. For example (s)
CA TE Tyler Luatua posted a pic on Instagram of a text conversation with Coach Brown. In it, he listed his top 5. Coach Brown responded by saying he can't stand the other 4, so Michigan was probably the best choice.
How can you trust him for objective info when he's pressuring the kids in such a homer-ish way? Can you imagine TomVH ever doing that?
A few other problems-
He called Damon Webb's commitment to OSU 'fishy'. Not because he had any proof, just because. A casual fan can get by doing that. But if you claim to be an objective reporter, baselessly suggesting that the kids you're interviewing are accepting benefits is probably not a good idea.
He has MSpeedKills working with him now- who just steals info from the 247sports VIP boards.
This sorta goes along with the Tyler Luatua thing, but here are some quotes from his site.
"Berger plans on going the pre-med route in school so to me the decision is crystal clear. "
"He told me he is really looking forward to it and knows it will be a good time. I'm not sure about this, but I would assume that he and Alabi will head to Ann Arbor together so their plans will be very similar"
I like him. He was right about Cole and Ferns and he runs a free website. A lot of people don't respect him for some reason.
Choose obvious candidate to be next commit, then lazily say maybe we'll have another commit soon....profit
Well John Doe and Joe Schmoe are visiting this weekend. We're on commit watch... Yawn.
Trent Dilfer [email protected]
@WiltonSpeight When will I see you compete in person? Try to make it to an E11 regional other than DC.
Given that Speight seems like he's a bit less of a gunslinger than Morris, it is fairly likely that he is more of Dilfer's "type" of QB, and would therefore do better than Morris at E11.
Accuracy is a big deal. Look at it this way, Shane had a horrible Oline in high school so many people attributed his accuracy issues to that. Going to the E11 camp and not being able to check down is an issue because he didn't have to worry about being sacked. I feel like he felt he had to prove something and tried to fit balls into tight windows with his arm, something that will burn him in the future.
Why did ESPN pick Dilfer to rate the elite 11? He's an annoying commentator and we've all seen how arbitrary his ratings are.
1. They can
2. They hate us, and love to mock us
3. Their lineup is strewn with idiots of every stripe (even their pre-show announcer has an extremely obnoxious affectation)
4. They ____________
Whom would you suggest as an alternative? It's not like the world's foremost quarterback gurus are beating down the door to rate high school quarterbacks.
The guy had a very good college career at Fresno State, had a decent NFL career, and won a Super Bowl. I think Michigan fans just don't like his ratings because he doesn't always have the most favorable things to say about guys we like (Shane Morris, for example).
Is MJ14 this Coach Brown fella?
I iz confuzd.
I'm honestly not. He has an account on here, but I don't even personally know him. I just like that he's willing to share free info, and I try to relay some of the good news.
Nope, I'm a real person, with a real life. Though sometimes I wish I was just some pretend person, so I didn't have to do all this homework at IU. If RDT or whoever wanted to do it for me, that's fine by me.
U go to IU too?
I sure do! Do you? I only assumed your SB meant South Bend. I know a good family from South Bend who are all Michigan fans. Anyways, yes I attend IU in Bloomington. Are you an IUB student as well? I've seen a few around in my time in Bloomington, and I always want to yell go blue or something.
Yeah I'm from south bend and I go to IU Bloomington. It's a fun place. haha
Yeah it's not bad at all! I have lived in Indiana for too long and I thought it would be horrible living here and going to school, but it's actually been a really pleasant experience. Plus, I've made some great connections here, which is a huge plus.
I feel like you are having a conversation with yourself right now. So RDT of you.
recruiting updates, defends a man he claims he barely knows, vehemently denies being RDT...
Yep. That about sounds like RDT.
So where does it say that we won't be getting Artavis Scott?
If you scroll down just a bit you can see where I embedded that tweet.
Where can I find a writeup on Tommy Doles?
He is Magnus' recruiting coordinator. He specializes in breaking down youtube footage.
Cole was the prediction everyone was making before the weekend. Doles is another safe money bet. We're filled to the brim with talented interior linemen, we can't possibly take that many more in this class, so if he wants to come, he'll drop sooner than later. He's also the last guy left on the board for 2014 who's said Michigan is his out and out leader.
What Brown essentially said here is "I guess the most likely guy to commit will be the next to commit. Unless he isn't."
I don't know, maybe he is the next Lorenz. It seems to me he's trying to be by getting ahead of the curve for 2015. But as it is, he's never said anything to make me trust any cryptic tweets of his.
....has been careful to not say we "lead," though he's made multiple comments on us setting the standard. High on us? yes. Likely to commit? Yes. Said we lead? Not unless that happened in the last day or two.
LOL at the cat fight on the 247 "2014 Recruiting" thread between Steve and all the commenters.
Wait, so what was the good news? That Harris will be here next weekend?
He'll be here this coming weekend and the next. So two instead of the original one.
like here in Ann Arbor, or "here" where you claimed to be 20 minutes ago in Bloomington, IN at IU? I don't think this is RDT, he was much better at covering things up!
I apologize that my english. I meant he'll be in Ann Arbor. Also, if anyone on here can see IP addresses, I'd love for mine to be posted. I bet anything it says I'm in Bloomington. In fact, I live right off of 3rd street, next to the Henderson parking garage. If you'd like to come visit, please do.
As far as the Harris thing, I meant he'll be in Ann Arbor the next 2 weekends. I apologize for any confusion due to my poor english.
I think it's funny how people pick and choose who's 'Legit' enough to follow for Michigan information.... If the guy has some nice interviews, solid information, and new contacts... Why is he any less valuable than Rivals, Scout or 247?
Only than making you pay for it, what's the differene between these guys?
IMO, absolutely nothing...
Just because somebody has a paywall for information, it doesn't make the info any more or less valuable, and it sure doesn't make their contacts any better...
I am all for free information and I'd rather see these sites be free for everyone. But my qualms with coach brown stem from claims that his ways of getting info are just by contacting kids ad nauseam and his recent prediction of Drake Harris committing while the kid is still committed elsewhere and his recent tweets about what happened at 247. It's rather unprofessional and if he wants credibility that certainly isn't the way to do it. Furthermore, he knows that the guys at 247 aren't fond of him so why does he go into their forums and post his information? Seems like he's trying to troll the 247 guys. He should just post info on his site and let other people spread the word but that just isn't the case
He trolls here once in a while and posts a link to his site with good stuff.
I don't think Magnus trolls. He acts sarcastic when people call him out, which is funny, mainly because he doesn't deserve to be called out in the first place.
A couple things about that...
a) I only started posting links when Tremendous did. I used to be against it (except for putting links in my sig).
b) I asked Brian's permission before doing so, and he gave me the green light. I usually limit the threads I start to recruit/player interviews and prospect scouting reports, since those are always heavy topics of discussion in any recruiting thread.
maybe it doesnt make sense, but i just can't think poorly of anybody whose account was started in 2008, they're legit to me
Is that not what Steve does/did? Twitter stalk? I don't follow Steve. He lost me on the first night when he put Jayme Thompson on commit watch when he never even had an offer. All I know is when I did check out his Twitter feed, 70% of it was asking a kid for a follow on Twitter.
How can Webb be so much better at the whole recruiting thing and not do that once? Too bad he is affiliated with such an awful site.
1. Yes, Steve screwed up there. But he learned from it and grew credibility by reporting more professionally and objectively. I have seen nothing to suggest that Coach Brown is looking for professionalism. He looks more like a Michigan slappy from a message board who just goes the extra mile and calls the recruits instead of just tweeting them.
2. Webb is well connected inside the Athletic Department and the coaching staff. So there may be guys good at contacting the prospects, their parents, and their coaches, but they'll be a step behind.
the world's biggest douche and makes it totally not worth paying the money for access to their site.
I completely understand how you can prefer some over others, and I think Sam is the best in the business...But, I hate how people act like you have to charge people for your info. to be a part of the club...
Half of the people in the business started out by being the 'wannabe bloggers,' and they look down on where they came from...
I don't know.... I just like seeing information on Michigan football and recruiting, and I couldn't care less who it comes from as long as it's respectful to the student athletes being interviewed.
Don't see his [almost] daily Recruiting Roundup for today, but maybe that's to make room for his Thursday segments with our Fearless Leader.
Podcasts here: http://www.wtka.com/page.php?page_id=87
EDIT: I'm blind. Today's Recruiting Round-up is Segment 7. Talking about Campbell's visit as I start to listen...
Can you dig that out and share it here?
Is half the information on MGoBlog not just 'dug out' and shared on here?
I have zero dog in this fight, but it's funny how information about a kid's feelings and who finds out first mirrors a highschool lunchroom....
This is easily one of the dumber threads I've read on MGoBlog, and that's saying something.
Who cares what some jerk at 247 thinks of this guy. If you dont like him, don't go on his blog.
I have a dog in this fight but she's a golden retriever. A lover not a fighter. I lose.
What makes him think we won't get Scott?
Is Coach Brown even a Coach?
I guess it's good to see Harris continuing to come so often, but there's nothing about that recruitment that doesn't scream it will be long and drawn out. The attention, the schools coming into play... just seems like it will be going on for a long, long time. Glad we're an instate school and should be able to hang in it for so long with no problem, but I'm expecting that to go into his senior HS year. Probably taking his officials.
By clicking on this post, I have learned that: recruits are visiting Michigan, Coach Brown is probably not a real coach, and MJ14 is RDT
So this thread is actually pretty informative...
you are therefore that person. I have seen it like, twice in my life as a blogger. Therefore, it applies to all cases. This is the logic of a Michigan Man. This is the sublime intelligence!
If you're still reading this thread Coach Brown, some of us still love you. Thanks for all the FREE info. You're a true fan. And even if the news isn't always rosy, we still want to hear it.
There are more super slooths then gumshoes around here, so friendly reminder to all... Tread lightly Carmen... Tread lightly.
just because this guy says so. Until we hear it from Scott himself, we're still in the game.
that no one has yet. He was the VERY FIRST person, not Sam or Allen or Steve or anyone, to say that Wilton Speight was one of our Top 3 possible QBs and that Borges was going to go see him throw that next Friday (turned out Borges couldn't make it and Coach Heck went instead). NOBODY had said that before he did. Then the next day or two, the other sites got in contact with Speight and turns out Coach Brown knew exactly what he was talking about.
One thing I don't like about the guy is that he tells people where players will go. "Drake Harris will end up at Michigan" and "Artavis Scott won't be a Wolverine" are things you don't say as a "Recruiting Analyst" (which he isn't). He could say Harris has a good shot at UM and Scott is a long-shot, but come on..
...and why should I care what he thinks?
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have a cute lil' kitten who loves to fight.
I don't get people who claim that players aren't going to a certain school before that school even plays its next season. So if DG blows up in the passing game and one of our WRs has 1300 yards and 10 TDs Artivis Scott isnt going to take notice because they already had an opinion of the school and it can't change?
Who's Coach Brown and why do I care? Is he actually a coach, or is he the new TOMVH, Aquaman?
Serious question here.
Edit: I see others have asked this same question. I think "Coach" Brown needs to introduce himself to this board (if he hasn't already).
Who is this nefarious Coach Brown any ways? I went to his "site". It was sparse, and that is putting it nicely. I guess that is the way to become a recruiting analyst. Know nothing, and just guess, claim that kids are unpredictable. Kind of sounds like CEO methodology!
I don't know Coach Brown but I am not bothered that someone is out there trying to put together recruiting information. I don't know what some of the issues are, it's free. Take it for what it is. If he tried to charge for it I could understand alot of the comments directed toward him. Alot of folks say he bothers kids to get them to talk to him. They don't have to, I don't think, but alot do. If there were 20 sites like his I still don't think I would care.
The only thing MJ14 said that made any sense was that he "could care less." I agree, you could definitely care far less about Coach Brown/recruiting sites than you do, brother.