I've noticed that most of the top Michigan and Ohio prospects already have State "offers". They seem to just throw offers out early, whereas we like to get the kids in to our Junior days usually and then offer after we've seen them. Although sometimes States methods work. Kids sometimes rave that "this school showed me the most love from the beginning". Although Texas is Texas, they like to offer commits super early and then give them the ultimatum of taking the offer or have it withdrawn. I suppose to each his own, but I'd like to see us get in earlier on some kids, especially if State is already offering....
Recruiting styles- UM-MSU-OSU
Give an example. When was the last time a kid picked MSU>UM or UM>MSU because one or the other offered first?
Heaven forbid we would require data for a discussion on recruiting! Most of the talk is blather from the coaches, the recruits, and the fan bases as we all know the bible of cliched phrases that most of the coaches and recruits talk from while the fan bases spend all their time trying to read into the cliched phrases nuances as to where a guy is leaning or going.
The early offer thing is hit or miss. You can sometimes grab a lot of talent early, but then you miss out on a senior evaluation. Some have speculated that perhaps that help contribute to Texas' struggles this year, as they fell into a batch of players who didn't live up to their junior hype.
MSU is a little different in that they're a less prestigious school with two other major programs in the area. They need the inside track with early offers to get top recruits looking their way.
i feel we should stick to our methods, brady hoke got a good class for the time he had. just imagine what they can do with an entire year......
Considering the giant game of catch-up played by the staff for the 2011 class, I imagine not enough time has been spent to determine if guys from the 2012 class deserve offers. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of 2012 players shown by Rivals to have offers recieved them from the Rodriguez staff.
Michigan State is a completely different beast than UM or OSU. Second tier schools tend to give out more early offers and more offers in general.
On the other hand, I believe OSU only had about 25 players in for official visits this year, and 20 of them signed. No way MSU could pull off something like that.
offer timing is clearly the biggest aspect of the recruiting process. Forget the camps and showcases these kids all attend; or all the coach interactions and phone calls; or the visits where they actually spend time on the field at a game. The offer timing is clearly the most significant part of the process, and our coaches should realize this. I know I came to U of M because they accepted me first. When Harvard said yes I was like "too late bitches".
Ohio State has the advantage of being the only school of merit in a state that would be ranked among the top five in the country in terms of producing talent. No other school has that and it basically guarantees them a top class no matter what. They'll lose a couple guys like Aundrey Walker but they know they can offer guys early that they know they want and wait for the rest of the class without having many problems.
Texas is unusual. Generally, it's less-prestigious programs that throw a lot of offers out there early. MAC schools always do this, for instance. The more glamorous programs can afford to wait.
Yeah, IMO the easiest school in the country to recruit top tier talent. Main reason is there is enough of it within their state lines to fill up two or more deep rosters. They really can go about it any way they want.
LSU is sort of another one that can coast more but not nearly the talent pool. So they have to reach outside the state and battle a little now and again.
From a WSJ 9Feb10 article discussing Stanford's highly rated academic recruits:
"Wayne Lyons ... is widely considered the best student among the nations elite recruits."
"'Stanford made the academics a huge priority,' said Mr. Lyons, who considered Notre Dame, Florida and Auburn, among others. 'The only place that came close was Michigan.'"
This, too, may tell us a bit about the differences in recruiting philosophies.