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Recruiting: Remaining Need, Interest in Michigan, Best Available?
He must be a Professor at WCCC.
has a much higher calling!
O'Daniel is a LB. Mike McCray (Trotwood-Madison) is a top-50 LB who also has high interest in Michigan and doesn't have an Ohio offer yet.
Will edit accordingly.
Wow...those 3 LB would be better than our haul last year.
And Gedeon isn't even among those 3 on your list. Crazy.
I'm trying to not get too high on these LBs because it seems a little too good to be true. Hopefully it isn't.
Great family, brother at Harvard.
Neither is Alex Anzalone, whose recruitment has taken off in the last couple days. I like Anzalone a lot and would love to see him in Ann Arbor.
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel it is bad form to compare potential recruits to current players? If it is just me, then disregard, if not, I hope our current LBs make you regret your underestimation of them.
I think he meant from a rating standpont. Either way, I took it more of "as good as our LB haul was last year, that would be even better" which isn't really a knock on the 2012 guys. People have made the same comment about out OL haul this year vs last year as well.
Meyer won't even offer guys ranked below 30.
Aquaman, O'Daniel is listed incorrectly as a RB on the Mgoblog 2013 Offer Board. You might want to edit that board, since you are now a mod, right?
Another safety... perferably a SS.
And latest updates (primarily from Dukes interview) suggests that they are taking 3 WRs in this class. Maybe a "slot" guy (as in a Borges 5'10" slot guy... not the 5'6" type of yesteryore)
To me Dymonte Thomas seems more like a strong safety. But maybe I am wrong in that thought.
I think you are correct. I'm under the impression that we might not take another safety in this class unless he is someone like Cravens.
Agreed. I think a guy like Cravens may be the only other safety we take. Depth at safety is decent in my opinion with Wilson, Gant and Clark just from the last class. That's not looking at guys that are already on the team.
Is Jarrod Wilson a FS? From what I remember he is...
They are definitely going after slot guys in the Gallon mold....which, if they are trying to emulate the Pats' offense, having a Wes Welker/Troy Brown out there would be beneficial.
Quick is a guy that fits the mold (though he's just a good WR in general IMO), LaRue as well(whose video I really really like....though he showboats a bit too much), and Onwualu all seem to be that shifty bubble screen type guy they might be looking for.
What about guys like Devon Allen and James Onwualu?
is where I see this going as well, at least personnel-wise.
let's cut Dileo and Gallon because they are midget slot guys of yesteryore. While we're at why don't we Sabanize everyone RR recruited.
How spoiled are we? When Dukes committed, I thought "why are we settling for a 3 *?"
I don't think that was how anyone was at all, at least on MGoBlog. It seemed like he actually got a very positive reception here.
I think the general consensus is that he's pretty underrated at this point, and he has a high ceiling.
Agreed. The Scout analyst for Ohio is very high on Dukes. We just got in on him early.
A 6'5" ceiling! HEYO!
The general consensus on mgoboard is that he's pretty underrated which like this is a fan site. It doesn't count for much. I personally doubt he's that underrated or OSU would have offered. I'm not someone who can break down a kid's game from a highlight package, but you don't have to be to tell that he has trouble getting separation. I'm not complaining about the commit, it's perfectly fine since we'll probably take another two receivers. But it sure would be nice to get an early impact gamebreaking type receiver in this class and Dukes doesn't look like that guy.
Anyone that is compared to Hemingway is a 5-star recruit in my book.
Setting aside the fact that anyone can be compared to anyone the Hemingway comparison is pretty lazy. Hem was an absolute freak at coming down with the ball. There aren't many people like him. Also Dukes is a long strider, unlike Hemingway. I doubt he'll be able to accelerate/plant like Hemingway could. He is a lot taller, though.
So any player Urban doesn't offer can't be underrated, even if he isn't a great fit for their spread offense? Makes a lot of sense to me.
1) Your iteration makes no sense because you butchered what I said.
2) Urban's offense starts 2 outside wide receivers. You know how many outside wide receivers we'll start when we're playing BorgesBall? 2.
3) Jaron Dukes isn't any player. He's from Columbus. If he looks like a likely big time player, it's strange Ohio didn't offer.
The thing about the star system for WR's is that they typically favor the fast "playmaking" receivers. Outside of a few physical freaks, a receiver who is 6'5" is usually not going to have the speed of a Diggs-like receiver, so he won't get the 5*.
Our coaching staff knows what kind of guys they want for their offense and filled the need for a big outside receiver with Dukes, and due to the early offer, I would guess that we are in no way settling. I can't wait to see Dukes with a Michigan jersey on jumping over little corners in the back of the endzone.
Then we can continue to run the "Chuck and Pray" developed by Denard and Hemingway this season.
At 6'5" with Devin and Shane tossing it up for grabs, I like the addition of Jaron Dukes.
It was a gut reaction, knowing only his stars. Heard a good run down on WTKA on him and am higher on him now.
I would add James Quick, 4 star WR from Lousville to that list.
And maybe Laremy Tunsil, although I dont know how realistic he is..
Supposedly his most recent top 3 list does not include Michigan. I would not get my hopes up for him. He seems like a heavy Florida lean.
I've never thought he would really consider Michigan . . . do you have info otherwise?
Nope. I remember reading somewhere on here a week or two ago to not count him out, and that he liked Michigan. But I just did a bit of research after Wolverine's post and it looks like his top 3 is Georgia, UF, and Alabama.
He had some interest early on when we offered. Other than that Florida seems like they are a leader by a wide margin.
add CB Gareon Conley.
I do not see Kendall Fuller on the list as a CB. He is visiting for the Spring game and is #4 overall by Rivals
Isn't he the one with a brother at VT? I thought he was coming along for the ride with his buddy O'Daniel, but he wasn't really considering Michigan.
Fuller has 3 brothers that go/went to VT. It'd be great to have him but I don't think it happens.
He said that won't affect him but that's quite the streak. Sorry if I'm being Debbie Downer in this thread.
He does have a brother at VT and may well end up there. However he has stated that his family connections at VT will not influence his college choice and anything can happen once he's are on campus.
EDIT: 2 brothers currently enrolled at VT. Sorry
Yes, Fuller does have a brother at VT. I think there is some interest in Michigan, not sure how much. I think there might be more interest than just coming along for the ride.
He has a relationship with Hoke back from his days at SDSU. Fuller is an outside shot for CB, wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with us but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't.
People said that USC might be hard to beat, but anything can happen when we get him on campus.
He's too legit to quit. Even though I hear we have little to no chance of getting him, I would love to see him in this class.
1 more TE
I'd put Kendall Fuller at CB. I'm just saying if he comes to our spring game he obviously has some interest.
This year the coaches really got a jump on recruiting and now it allows them to evaluate the rest of this class and the 2014 class more closely to reel in even better players. This staff is absolutely outstanding.
I believe you meant tremendous.
I'm guessing we'll take around 22 since we didn't take 28 last year so we are a little more than halfway done.
We have 16 seniors plus 2 open scholarships plus 1-2 non-renewals plus 2-3 of natural attrition puts us at 22 min, more likely 23+, by signing day by my count.
Most are saying we'll have less than 23, but I don't see how this is likely.
I would love to see us snag Devon Allen, the receiver from AZ. He's got the agility and hands that could make him an excellent fit for the slot. More obvious guys at the top of my list are Levenberry and Hargreaves. I don't know what chances we have with Hargreaves, but that kid's talented as hell.
There are several offers out there which just seem very unlikely to happen. The purpose of my OP was to both identify areas of remaining need, and also identify prospects who have put us out there as their leader, or in their top three, or top five. Yeah, any team in the country would gladly take all their recruits from the top 50 list. But that isn't realistic (unless, maybe, you're Urban Meyer.) So, I will gladly edit my OP, but only if someone has given a clear indication that they are very interested in Michigan.
LTT is a good example of this. So is Shane Morris, and Dukes, and Lewis, and Taco. These are all guys who showed clear and repeated interest in Michigan.
Vernon Hargreaves's dad is the DL coach at South Florida. Not really sure, but if I had to guess, South Florida might be a real factor in his recruitment.
Which safety, TE, and DT we have the best chance with? i know we have great prospects left at linebacker, Wide Reciever and Running Back but i haven't seen a lot of strong interest from those other positions with the recruits left on the board.
We already have two TEs committed, I doubt we take another one.
How much interest has Eddie Vanderdoes shown in UM? Is he just considering us from a large group of schools, or do we have a really good shot with the kid?
WR: L. TREADWELL
WR: J. QUICK, B.EDWARDS(i know he doesn't hold an offer and he is a rb, but I think he would fit the slot role nicely.imo)
LB: O'DANIEL, McCRAY
DT: CRAYTON, POGGI
DT: LATHAM, VANDERDOES
OL: McGOVERN, POCIC, DILLARD(center prospect but no offer...yet)
RB: D. GREEN, D.SMITH, TY ISAAC
CB: FULLER, CONLEY, HARGREAVES(not likely but would be sweet)
TE: there are many possibilities here and i think if we dont take a second safety or linebacker then we will take a third tight end
DE: HATCHER- again only if we lose out on another position and it has been said he is leaning toward louisville
Sounds like Quick won't be coming here and I would be beyond surprised if Fuller doesn't go to VT. Other than that, I pretty much agree!
Not aqua but for DT i believe we are in strong position with Rod Crayton, Darius Latham and Henry Poggi while players like Eddie Vanderdoes or Greg Webb have shown some intrest
Has there been any news on Ben Gedeon lately? I know he received an Ohio offer last month. It seems like both sides have cooled unless I missed something to the contrary.
We should be taking one kid for every position on offense and defense every year. So, yes, we should get a second safety. We will take a second back, so you either need to add a second running back or a full back. Based on what we have, what you've listed as needs, and what I just added, that's 24, which is probably realistic. We had more than 28 available scholarships and we only took 25 (26 if Kozan decides to come to Michigan). That's 3-5 available scholarships, plus 16 graduating seniors, plus attrition, meaning you probably have somewhere in the range of 24 scholarships available to your next recruiting class.
Last summer I had worked at the team camp for my college (small school, Iowa). As coaches we were assigned teams to work with and I lucked in to working with Amara Darboh's Dowling Catholic squad. Even better, they divided up into offense and defense and I got to take the offense, so I had to opportunity to watch Darboh work in a team setting for six practices that lasted three hours apiece. I'm no scout but if the interest is there I could throw together my impressions of him from that time.
but no one minds some first hand experience with the recruits. What do you got?
SS Su'a Cravens has expressed interest in visiting Michigan! I do not think you discount an athlete of his caliber whether we have Dymonte or not. Besides we all know what can happen when Hoke and Co gets a recruit onto campus. He doesn't stand a chance!
I'd like to see us take AT LEAST two DT. Hopefully big will and peewee can dominate the middle this year, but will is leaving after this year and there seems to be a big drop off in talent. (well unless one of the listed DEs converts)
Kenton Gibbs is a DT at Cass Tech who the coaches might offer if they miss out on their top priorities. Marcel Ateman and Eldridge Massington are wide receivers who have shown interest. Jacob Matuska is a good bet if the coaches are taking another TE. Shane Cockerille is a teammate of Poggi who the coaches have offered. He plays QB and DB. Evan Lisle and Patrick Kugler are two OL who have shown interest that I don't think anyone has mentioned.
I'd add Kevin Gladney (WR), Cameron Walker (CB), Jayln Powell (S), and Kenton Gibbs (DT- I'm guessing he'll get an offer in December/January)
Again, putting in my vote for DE Robert Nkemdiche. Terell Suggs in the making.
Lequon Treadwell WR
Kevin Gladney WR ( If Neither come here these guys could if offered Berkley Edwards, Brandon Bean)
EJ Levenberry LB
Darion O'Daniel LB
Ben Gedeon (Mike McCray if either other LBs dont commit)
Herny Poggi DT
Ethan Pocic OL
TY Isaac RB
De'veon Smith RB
Gareon Conley CB
Jacob Matuska TE
Tre Bell CB
I highly doubt we take three running backs or three tight ends, let alone both.
Love your list, and just have a few questions.
Mike McCray - do you see him behind Levenberry, O'Daniel, and Gedeon?
Eddie Vanderdoes - you see him going elsewhere?
Gedeon, Smith, Conley, Matuska, Bell - have you seen an indication that they are high on Michigan, and likely to come here?
and I believe that Levenberry, and O'Daniel will probadly commit at or around the spring game Gedeon and McCray these two will wait it out for a while but I think Gedeon will pull the trigger first, Eddie Vaderdoes is someone I have to see how interested he is I might add him to the list when he visit but right now I'm playing location card. Smith I believe he likes Michigan plus I think he is that second RB were as Shallman is a hybrid runningback/fullback think BJ Askew type, Matuska I believe he is a True TE that can play on the line for run blocking and can go out to catch the ball too I think Jake Butt and Devin Funchess will be used like Aaron Hernandez and Tony Scheffler,Bell I think he is a cover corner that Michigan can use he reminds me of Blake Countess and I think Michigan would like to add more depth at corner plus I think he could play early. Were as Richardson, and Lewis will be redshirted so they can add more weight to their frame develop their skills.
When we first offered Latham, was it at OT or DT? I see he's a top-ten OT on 247 and a DT on the other sites. Rivals has him as a four-star DT outside of the top-250.
Sorry if this doesn't belong in this thread, but Illinois has publically admitted they are going after UM commits. I had 2 reactions:
2. Slimey. Esp to bring it to media. I actually wonder if this isn't a NCAA violation, as you can't talk about specific recruits untill LOI is in hand.
Again, sorry if not right forum. Neg bomb away if you feel it isn't.
#illini Tim Beckman about 2 in-state recruits going to Michigan. He said "Well, thank goodness Signing Day isn't until next February."
I see nothing wrong in what was said.
Maybe not "polite" but Bosch & LTT just gave verbal commitments which stands for absolutely nothing in the court of law
We're still going after Elmer who committed to ND. We went after Reeves after PSU blew up. Until a LOI is signed, nothing is in stone.
Not so fast my friend....he will do his normal routine of going after them once thy have commited.
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Urban meyers sucks so much that even kittns think he has no money
Urban meyers sucks so much that even kittns think he has no money
Just tweeted that he is on his way to Michigan.