Recruiting Questions: Frost & Lyons
With the commitment of Desmond Morgan, and the prior commitment of Kellen Jones, we have two linebackers. Obviously, we still have Frost as a prospect. How many LBs could we take, and how interchangable or different are the needs at OLB & MLB?
Regarding Avery Walls going to Cal, the comment was made that we better hope to get Royster, as the only remaining safety prospect. Does this mean that we are no longer being considered by Lyons, who I thought was also a safety? Or are the roles filled by Royster & Lyons significantly different?
December 14th, 2010 at 11:27 AM ^
I could be wrong, but Lyons looks more like a SS than a FS. That's why I wanted Walls and now I want Royster.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:28 AM ^
Frost is a WR and we need all defensive players. I hope we re-think his offer.
/s, obvsly
December 14th, 2010 at 11:30 AM ^
forgot he wanted to try out at WR. He is listed on the boards as a LB, but regardless of position, it would be great for Frost to go blue.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^
I was being sarcastic. Some people on this board are really stupid and ONLY WANT DEFENSIVE PLAYERS!!1!! Frost is coming in as a WR (if he comes) and some people here have been too stupid to realize players can switch. So my comment was making fun of them... I was kidding.
Frost would be a great get. So would any other division-1 talent of any position that wants to play for UofM, especially given the cirumstances.
December 14th, 2010 at 2:00 PM ^
I wonder if he'll fill out enough to take a shot at TE. Perhaps they have him in mind for that position as well. Great athlete all around!
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December 14th, 2010 at 11:32 AM ^
Oh come on. Not that I mind, but being a dick just to be a dick is pathetic. At least inject some humor or something.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
Plus where is her other leg? If she only has one, that's cool but I am confused.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^
it could be an optical illusion type of deal
December 14th, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
Either that or she is a chameleon and her leg is blending in with the sheets.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:37 PM ^
oh, I must have missed that.....
December 14th, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
I thought that asking him if he planned to move to Bolivia counted as humor to me.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^
Obvious dickery is obvious. Boo.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
fine looking lass. And the pic is not LARGE. nonetheless, nsfw. And being during the day, my guess is Paul et al will be deleting your post in 5 . . 4 . . 3 . . 2 . . 1.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^
You're not planning to move to Bolivia, are you?
December 14th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
You're wife looks like a fucking man. So STFU or I'll rip out her eyes and skull fuck her.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^
Jeff Garcia is definitely gay.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
that we could use more than 1 safety in the class.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:40 AM ^
Everyone always projects him to play LB. Why couldn't he play FS? He definitely seems to have enough speed and athleticism.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:44 AM ^
He's too slow and too stiff, and he'll be too big by the time he fills out.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
without researching too heavily my guess is that if he is a potential LB candidate who happens to play WR then he is a large WR. methinks similar to Cam Gordon's path of WR to FS, well maybe he's too big and slow for the FS role, lets move him down to a SS spot. I'd rather see Frost just come in at one and excel at it than get bounced around Cam Gordon style. however, if it takes he and the coaches a year or so to come to terms with where he is best suited fine. but I don't think that will be at FS...
December 14th, 2010 at 12:11 PM ^
I think having them bounce around can be a very good thing. You learn the responsibilities of those positions, which helps in integrating yourself into the defense as a whole. For Cam, he learned how to play in space and how to play pass coverage, which will help him be a better all around LB.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^
will know what to do with the talent that comes in! Bring on Frost, Lyons, Royster and Zettel! Go Blue dudes and be a part of bringing UofM back to College football Glory!
Go Blue beat miss st!
December 14th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
Rivals is saying countess could be done with his visits. this could be a good sign.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^
his comments in that article sound pretty favorable.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^
If we get Countess, can Brown or one of the other guys move over to FS. Although not enrolling early will not help them get ready for next year.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^
I'm assuming it is down to us and GT. I know he has a former teammate there. Hopefully he decides later when this situation is more stable here.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:44 AM ^
Kris Frost is playing in the annual NC/SC Shrine Bowl. His coaches have him playing SAM in practice this week (closer to the line of scrimmage) where they said he's excelled.
I think our linebacker corps would end up like this in a few years,
WLB - Jones
MLB - Morgan
SLB - Frost
Not bad. We'll see what happens.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
I talked to a former player at St. Ignatius, who is now coaching in the area. He thinks Jake Ryan has more potential at LB than the higher ranked kid from Ignatius who went to tOSU. And as mentioned below, there is also the possibility of Kinard.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
Ryan has been moved to DE. As for Frost, while I hope we get him I suspect that he goes elsewhere. With him being an EE and the mess we're in with the coaching decision looming sometime after the bowl I just don't forsee any big timers committing here. I suspect it played a role in us losing Walls too. Luckily some recruits are waiting, but I suspect DB is blowing a huge opportunity for Michigan with this recruiting class. My bet is with a coaching change Zettel is a Sparty, Dee looks elsewhere, and Michigan is lucky to end up in the top 35 recruiting not to mention the attrition.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:20 PM ^
Why would Zettel go Sparty due to a coaching change? I can understand it for some of the skilled players on the offensive side of the ball but defensive players should still jump at the chance to play at Michigan (especially if the reigning DC of Year is in town next season).
December 14th, 2010 at 12:24 PM ^
Walls was lost to us ever since he visited out west months ago. People only thought he was a Michigan lean b/c that was the last that anyone had heard. He shut down after those visits, with some suspecting he was a silent commit to Oregon or Cal. Even if Brandon had come out and said that Rich Rod was staying Walls would be going to Cal. The mods over at Rivals have been saying for a while that they didn't have a good feeling about Walls coming to Michigan.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^
Walls was a strong lean and recruiting for us until he went out west for some visits. But, if my memory serves me correctly, he was going to visit other schools after those visit. He wanted to visit Sparty, UConn and a couple of other schools. He didn't shut down because of that, I think he shut down because his grandmother got sick and focused on that.
DB's decision probably didn't have a direct effect on Wall's decision. DGDestroys, Tom or anyone else correct me if I am wrong.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:54 PM ^
December 14th, 2010 at 11:46 AM ^
as well, remember. Unless there's been news on him I haven't seen
December 14th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^
The only news is that he doesn't have an offer to be in the Class of 2011.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^
Scout and ESPN still list him, though Rivals does not. Maybe I should have checked TTB
Do you know if this is a grades/test score thing, or have coaches re-thought the offer? I thought the last word was he was doing well at Hargrave
December 14th, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^
He was doing well at Hargrave, but I think the coaches realize that they need to recruit lower risk players (thus solid student-athletes like Jones and Morgan). And I also don't think Kinard's ceiling was extremely high, which means the coaches might think that Jones, Morgan, and others are just better players.
If a kid can't qualify coming out of high school, is he going to be able to keep up once he gets to college? That's got to be a big question in a case like this...
December 14th, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^
Are the coaches slow playing Kinnard, waiting to see what happens with current offers out there before they give another offer? Or are his academics still sub-par? Or is the lack of an offer due to something else?
December 14th, 2010 at 1:03 PM ^
"Slow playing" is the right phrase for it, I think. Now that we've got Jones and Morgan, Kinard's chances are slimmer. And if we can reel in Frost, I really doubt there will be room for Kinard. We don't need 4 linebackers in this class.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:56 PM ^
December 14th, 2010 at 1:03 PM ^
Pros:
- Apparently doesn't mind the cold.
- Aboverage jaw strength.
- Excellent pad level.
Cons:
- Isn't from Michigan. Further cements Dantonio's dominance over the state.
- Would result in even more Lion King references. Would rather have a tiger so Kipling references would be more natural.
- Stumpy legs.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:05 PM ^
Lack of opposable thumbs makes holding the rope impossible.
December 14th, 2010 at 6:23 PM ^
That's what the jaw strength is for.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:26 PM ^
Whether as a LB or WR Frost is a MUST get recruit. He have no WR in this class right now because of the unfortunate Conway DNQ. At this point Forst/Zettel/Bryant are the top remaining recruits on our board. If we can lock up those 3 (and keep what we have) I'll be ecstatic...
December 14th, 2010 at 1:16 PM ^
All three are great recruits, really need to get these guys
December 14th, 2010 at 1:19 PM ^
Devin Lucien seems pretty high on us.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:17 PM ^
Frost, Zettel, Bryant these remaining recruits are critical along with obtaining one or two more secondary commits. Need to keep hart and get some of the recruits listed above to complete this recruiting class(strong).
December 14th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^
Where are the DT commits? Football games are won and lost in the trenches, and I'm fearing that this part of the team is extremely lacking.
We're losing some seniors from what wasn't a great line this year, and replacing them with Redshirt freshman and a position switch player in Q Washington. Martin and RVB will be great and solid if healthy, J Black looks promising, after that...
We're basically an angry michigan DL hating god tantrum away from next years DL being equivalent to this years secondary.