Hopefully not hyping something that isn't going to happen but this was posted on ESPN's Huge News for Michigan. Not trying to get all hopes up, just passing on information.....
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=130&tid=5913535&lid=9
Any Jefferson optimism must
Realistically, which guys do you think we get?
Thoughts?
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Too soon to say for sure,
Too soon to say for sure, IMO. Cullen's a done deal, he's going public with what's been private for a while now on Tuesday. Grimes and Murphy are close; I think if they waited until NSD like they plan (as of now), they might miss the boat, but I also think UM is going to push to have them accelerate the process. Jefferson, who knows, he tells everyone what they want to hear. Shaw might happen, especially with FSU in flux (although we're not exactly stable, either). Big Tex, certainly sounds like he loves UM, and his coach is in our corner....now we gotta work on mom...
Yeah...I think Grimes and
Yeah...I think Grimes and Murphy are going to decide before NSD, if only via silent commitments. I sincerely doubt we'll have two open spots waiting for them in February.
Thanks
I appreciate it. Any news is good news, and we could sure use some good news.
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I forgot Furman. Rivals
I forgot Furman. Rivals article today quoted him as saying he knows where he's going. Not sure whether to feel good or bad about that since he didn't make his return visit to UM this weekend, but is apparently still scheduling a return trip for early December before his decision on the 19th.
That's
what she said
Yeah, I dunno
I obviously hope this is true, but it seems too good to be.
Shaw is a good player, but at
Shaw is a good player, but at some point, this receiver nonsense has to stop. If he is indeed a silent commit, then that gives us six WR commits. Something's got to give, whether it's a guy decommitting or someone switching to defense...
6 WR, and 1 OL, 1 DT, 1 LB, 2
6 WR, and 1 OL, 1 DT, 1 LB, 2 Safeties, as of now.
Given the current state of the team, that looks silly on its face. People are obviously gonna have to move around. I don't think we need 15 WR on the roster.
I haven't seen anyone like
I haven't seen anyone like WR's this much since Matt Millen and we all know how that turned out
Ouch.
Ouch.
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Switching to D...
I don't know about any of the recievers, but many of the higher-profile recievers play both ways in HS because they are the best athletes on their teams. So, a couple of position switches isn't out of the question.
Maybe approaching some of the
Maybe approaching some of the early commits with a position switch gets them to decommit and open up a scholarship or two with out us getting egg on our face and negative publicity with coaches and pipelines?
Tom, Where are you and what are you hearing?
Like I said in my post......If Big Tex commits, it was all me!
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You have a point, but
You have a point, but Henderson was a long shot from the beginning. Christian has favored Michigan for a long time, and we were an early leader for Shaw and (apparently) have rejoined our recruiting effort with him.
I think it will speak volumes
I think it will speak volumes as to when Jefferson and others reach out to Tom. If Tom hears back from any as early as tonight, that bodes well.
just to get this
just to get this straight...
There is no way to sign more than 25 kids this year even with the loss of Feagin, Cissoko, etc?
Good question.
Basically, you have Sam Webb saying 25 max no matter who enrolls early, and the rest of the internet saying guys that enroll early can count to 2009.
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/ncaa-scholarship-limit-review
http://www2.oanow.com/oan/sports/college/article/au_football_chizik_look...
The Auburn article says that
The Auburn article says that teams can only give out 25 scholarships, but they can sign up to 28. I hope we don't sign recruits with the intention of not giving them scholarships.
I believe this was the case
I believe this was the case in the past, but the rule has been changed and early enrolees no longer may be counted against previous classes. I'll try to find a link to confirm.
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Someone (can't remember who)
Someone posted a diary a week or so ago with a review of the NCAA rules regarding scholarships and early enrolees. There were no changes made to the rules that would affect a players ability to enrole early and count against the previous years class as far as he found (and he claims he searched it well).
There has been a lot of blabber about these so called "rule changes" but this is the first poster I saw actually look it up and see what the rules actually state.
I put that diary together and
I put that diary together and it includes everything that I could find. The only places that I could find any comments regarding early enrollees not counting to previous classes anymore was on Michigan message boards (mostly this one). I am firmly convinced that the rules have not changed. They certainly haven't changed as far as the NCAA is concerned. Maybe the Big Ten has a new rule but I can't find their bylaws posted on the web anywhere.
Since the source of the suggestion that early enrollees can't count anymore is Sam Webb, maybe someone can call him tomorrow to confirm his source. I just listened to his Recruiting Roundup podcast and he suggests that including Witty we have a very good chance at signing seven. If he's right then either the rule hasn't changed or he assumes we will be pulling scholarship offers from current commits.
I suspect that Coach Rod will politely notify as many fifth years as necessary that they will not be invited back as players but that they can be GAs. This will likely happen again next year as well so that we can maximize the potential of a small class.
Maybe. We still have 62
Maybe. We still have 62 scholarship players returning next year, even with all the transfers. So if we want to bring in 28 new recruits, that means 5 of those scheduled to come back have to "get the boot". I'm still believing the class will be 25.
I'd like to get to know where you get your numbers
On Scout's site there are 77 scholarship players listed. Included in those 77 are Clemons, BooBoo, Evans, Feagin, Helmuth, O'Neill, and Wermers. Not listed is Kelvin Grady. That knocks it down to 71 take away the seniors and you are down under 60. It's also unlikely that all those eligible for fifth years will get them or will decide they have their degree and will move on with lives.
Are you including walkons that have been granted scholarships? Because those are on a yearly basis and are not guaranteed to be renewed.
I think at this point it's a
I think at this point it's a lock that Kovacs and Leach, at least, will earn scholarships.
Heininger is a possibility as well.
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Sam Webb on WTKA
11/23 we have 71 players on scholarship. There are more than 9 seniors. So your 62 number is wrong.
So if we want to bring in 28
So if we want to bring in 28 new recruits, that means 5 of those scheduled to come back have to "get the boot".
Or maybe RR can just give some unnecessary recruits the "Saban treatment." Capstone Report says that would be more humane.
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If the NCAA gives out medical
If the NCAA gives out medical hardship waivers they should give out attrition waivers so we can over sign.
I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.
Don't forget RoJo. He's been
Don't forget RoJo. He's been a silent commit since like February '06 or something.
Any Jefferson optimism must be tempered. USC, Cal, UCLA and Oklahoma have all received his "commitment" at some point or another.
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