The real reason Michigan will be able to torture Ohio (spin off from Mgo.licio)

Basically, it started with the UConn game. Denard jumped up to sit on the brick wall with the students. Some of the students had to help hold him up there. Lloyd Brady was one of them and it looked like he was pinching Denard's nipple. People started saying that he looked like a cross between Lloyd Christmas and Tom Brady, thus, Lloyd Brady. He showed up again and again on TV broadcasts. It became a sport to find him and he became an MGoCelebrity. Really, I think everyone just wants to be him because he is always in the best seats in the house.

Calm down Beavis! 

I understand exactlty what Coastal is talking about.  But, I have a bit of a different take on the what he's saying.

I supported Carr up until "The Horror" in 2007.  After that day it became obvious to me that Carr's regime had fallen into the most dangerous of all situations in CFB (IMO) -- COMPLACENCY.  The specifics of this have been cataloged ad nausem, so I won't go into them again.

However, after all that, after RR, and most importantly after the Tat 5 Scandal came to light, I had a greater appreciation for Carr's last few seasons.  Carr had to know what was going on in Columbus.  Yet, through it all, Carr didn't stoop to the same level in an effort to compete with Ohio under JT.  Personally, I wish he would have tried to expose them, but I also have to give him credit for taking the high road and remaining silent.  He came very close to showing Ohio and JT up in 2006, and he would have shown them up without cheating -- how sweet would that have been?

I think Carr placed a great deal of emphasis upon The Game -- he smoked some great Ohio teams in the '90's afterall.  But, I also think that he knew full well that competing with a team that was outright cheating was near impossible.  The SEC is as dirty as it (allegedly) precisely because once one team does it, the other teams have to do it to keep up.

Again, I just wish that Carr would have said something, even in private, to nip the issue in the bud.  There was some bad luck in there too -- like the 2005 recruiting classes well documented decimation.  Things spiraled down quickly, but my esteem for Coach Carr is renewed considering he could have totally screwed Michigan football by cheating to keep up, getting caught, and putting the program into serious hot water with the NCAA.

Haha.

No, what is getting further and further from reality is the thought process of former players and alumni and the "Michigan Man/Lloyd Loyalist" slappies on this board. 

Let's give Mr. Woodson a hypothetical:

Let's say next year the Packers lose their entire starting secondary...and most of their back-ups. They end up starting two 7th round rookies at CB, a undrafted second year FA whose been on the practice squad at SS and end up having to use Donald Driver at FS. 

Then let's say Aaron Rodgers gets hurt, as well as Jordy Nelson. Matt Flynn's gone and their only option is to bring in mobile-spread QB Chase Daniel, from the Saints. 

Now let's say that due to this rash of injuries and the plethora of inexperienced players, as well as a QB who doesn't fit their offensive personnel, let's just say the Packers end up going 0-6 in the division. You know, because the rest of the teams don't suffer all this misfortune and are simply better.

Now would Charles Woodson say that they lost because Mike McCarthy treated those divisional rivalries like they were "just another game(s)"? Or would he probably be realistic and realize that the personnel simply wasn't there or ready to match up with their rivals? 

We both know the answer.

But for some reason, when we look at teams like the 2010 Michigan team and see 7 freshmen and sophomores in the two deep of the secondary, with the 8th guy being a former senior wideout, we expect them to match up with a team that went 12-1 last year.

Meanwhile, because I think people are idiots, we attribute this year's victory to Hoke "putting emphasis" on the rivalry. This is what so many of the idiots (and I include Charles in this, as well as a lot of people on this site) seem to truly believe. Gee, I wonder if it was that or the fact that Ohio was a 6-6 team with a transitional coaching staff, starting a true freshman at QB, etc. ?

But by the logic of Charles, other former players and our cadre of imbeciles who believe pounding podiums is more important than experience and talent  here at MGoBlog, Lloyd Carr must have dozed off during Ohio State week his last seven years, because we clearly were inferior. I'm just going by their logic. 

And I guess Brady Hoke clearly didn't understand the rivalry with MSU, otherwise we would have won that one. That had nothing to do with their senior QB, homefield advantage and a great defense...no, its definitely because Brady Hoke took it even less seriously than RR did in 2009.

We need a real Michigan Man who understands ALL our rivalries!!!