Isn't this the cheering equivalent of "Ann Arbor is a whore!" LOLOL MeatChicken sux! Go Green wooooo!
Re. "You Suck!"
I'm fighting off the urge to thank you after you punched me in the face
Every time after the opposing teams hears "YOU SUCK", they get all intimidated and go into a shell.
And without students PLAYING, there is no college football, period. If it was only with the students watching, the game wouldn't start till midway through the 1st quarter.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the chant has been around since at least 1996 when I was a student there.
No it hasn't. It defintiely was not chanted in the student section in 1998-2002.
You're all a bunch of old geezers who like to golf clap and wiggle keys instead of standing and yelling.
Dude, it's the students who wiggle keys. Don't pin that on the alums.
Because they represent the University as a University sponsored group, we were explicitly forbidden from saying words like "suck" or "chump, dick, wuss, douchebag......"
Not that we didn't partake here and there, but it was always without hand motions and the vocals were always under our breathe for anything remotely bordering on vulgar/obscene.
Credit here goes to the student section.
The band doesn't make the phone ring for that chant? Also, I believe the band started the awww see ya chant which led the student section to their current tirade. Maybe the band doesn't cuss, but they certainly facilitate it.
Nope, the band doesn't make the phone ring. The phone is in the press box, and whenever it rings (and it's usually audible), the chant happens.
This may be true about the hockey band.
BUT when I was @ND for the football game in 2008 I thought I heard the band say something very interesting on the way into the stadium.
They were marching into ND Stadium getting screamed at by ND fans, and they were saying this phrase as they marched that ended with "f*ck you Go Blue!"
Now it is entirely possible that I misheard what they were saying. But I was not the only one. Someone please educate me if you know more.
Anyways, I loved it!
Beat the ___ go go, Michigan (repeat)
It's great to be a Michigan Wolverine! (repeat)
We're the champions of the West
The leaders and the best
We're maize and blue, we're 'mazin' you
We got it goin on
We're going to the Big House (Going to the Big House!)
Who ya gonna see? (Who ya gonna see?)
It's Michigan (It's Michigan!)
The Wol-ve-rines. GO BLUE
Let's go blue
Let's go blue
Let's go blue BEAT _SU!
(Insert appropriate letter. Used to be reserved for OSU but that got changed in 2007.. haven't been around to hear it lately)
Hail! Hail to-- the Victors! Michigan!
M-I-C-H-I-G-A! N Go Blue.
To everyone proclaiming "X tradition started when I was there"....unless you wrote the Victors, you don't gain special Michigan cred just because a random student tradition started when you were there, so stop making up stuff (or believing it if you actually do) about whatever chant/body motion/etc being started by your class. At least 90% of these proclamations on timing are just flat out wrong anyway.
I'm pretty sure complaining about people claiming to have started traditions began my third year at Michigan.
My first season as a student was the 2002 season (Washington game) I can't remember when it began, but definitely heard it as a student. It just made no sense, so I never chanted it. It's pretty poor in general and am surprised there are this many people defending it. I never like to cheer down a player/team, i like to cheer up our players/ our team.
One of the things I like that ND does is during the announcement of the opposition starters... the entire stadium just turns around in silence (or did.) I prefer that to our "Who Cares?!" The about-face and silent approach just says so much, without saying anything. Call me old fashioned.
Hasn't been going on for 10 years, since it started while I was there, and I was a freshman in 2003. They also changed it from the chop to the claw, which looks pretty terrible as well. Not only is you suck classless, its unoriginal. I can't help but think less of the student section every time I hear it.
If you are thinking more about the student section rather than what is happening on the field well then I am sorry for you.
I agree. I remember this starting almost 5 years ago. I hated it then and still hate it now. I know there are some people that really think it's cool, but I'm with the sentiment above. Please, please, please stop.
Replace "you suck" with "go blue" until something else is better.
nothing at all, do the chop and be happy for the stop.
while I'm completely opposed to the "you suck " part (which started my sophomore year 2004) do not ever call it the chop.
last I checked wolverines do not chop or have a tomahawk. they have a claw.
it's the claw!!!!
Seriously, I cannot take anyone seriously who wants to stop the "You Suck" but calls it the chop!
It has not been the chop ever, and yet I see people doing it all the time. It baffles me.
2002 it was a "first down signal" not a chop. It became the claw which looks a little silly, but I won't hate, that's just me resisting change.
It's not a goddam tomahawk, it's signalling a first down for Michigan. At least that's one explanation.
The claw is lame. In the spirit of this thread: I was there when it was invented, and I knew the guy who worked for the Daily and came up with it. He always had the zealots' gleam in his eye when he talked about the claw. v
We're Michigan dammit! We don't need to be literal-minded about everything.
Oh, and on 'You Suck.' It's not so much that it's offensive - really, it's not. It's just fucking stupid. You sound like third-graders on the playground. Embarrassing.
Yes, this is exactly correct. This was an obsession of his that somehow got adopted after weeks of promotion in the Daily. I'll never forget the headlines: "Stop the Chop, Wolverine Rarrrr!" Just terrible.
I can't stand watching the limp wristed clawing action, and hope someday the chop will make a comeback. I thought it was meant to signal the ball ready for play after a loss of down (I'm assuming maybe at one time Temptation was played on 4th downs)?
This is exactly why the chop was ridiculous. Perhaps, it would make sense as a first-down celebration. But not after a third-down-stop. The meaning of the Claw, on the other hand, is obvious. We are a pack of ferocious Wolverines and just tore you to shreds.
It's not supposed to be a chop or a "claw." It's supposed to be a closed fist.
I can get behind this. Someone alert the Daily.
I hate to break it to you because you're obviously not a fan of the chant... but the "you suck!" isn't just at the end of temptation. That's just when it's the most prominent because the band drops out. They actually sing "you suck" as the melody all the the way through the song. They seem to have quite a bit of fun doing it, so I don't know if your plea has any prayer of being answered. It goes something like this:
"You, you suck, you suck, youuuuu suck." (Trumpets take over...)
"You, you suck, you suck, you suck, suck. YOU SUCK (the one you hear)!"
Good luck changing that one.
Yeah, there would have to be some kind of replacement lyrics because the students are now used to singing something during it. Regardless, it should be changed. It's lame, and the alums will never get into it. A chant coming from one corner of the stadium is not that intimidating.
Unfortunately, at most games the rest of the stadium doesn't get very intimidating at any point during the game.
Honestly, I just don't think this is a big deal. Anyone who bases their opinion of UM on one two-word chant is...well, not busy enough. I think there are an infinite number of things that prove that UM is classy on gameday alone and the fact that UM's drunk ass students say "you suck" at a game will never be enough to tarnish those things.
at most games the rest of the stadium doesn't get very intimidating at any point during the game.
That's what happens when the students and alums aren't on the same page, as is currently the case. Come up with a chant that the whole stadium can get into. That's where it gets intimidating.
Damn kids, get off my lawn.
- Kill it with fire
- Get off my damn lawn
- Epic fail
- I see what you did there
- Stop fisting the platypus
Not as in another really, really tired phrase, but as in what you just did to me; I need a well-worn path to cleverness.
I didn't realize you were in charge of keeping track of trivia.
Do you also know how many licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?
Are you the same old man that sits 2 row above me saying they think the "ring of death" in pregame is "thug-like"?
The ring of death guy said that because he doesn't like black people. 'Thug' is usually a giveaway.
OP is complaining because he doesn't like stupid people.
I always sing the real lyrics to Temptation
Another problem with the "you suck" chant is it is often chanted at inappropriate times. For example, it is chanted on third down even when it is obvious that the opposing team will go for it on fourth down. Then the fans look stupid when the team goes for it on fourth down and converts.
Are you me?
Well maybe Temptation should be held off in these instances.
I was always under the impression that Temptation was for a defensive stop. So if the band didnt play it when the other team was CLEARLY going for it, the problem would be solved.
I have never heard the crowd do it without being started by the band...not the crowds fault
I hate this chant too, but this is what bugs me the most. I always look at the students around me wondering why they think the other team sucks when they are about to kick a field goal or attempt to conevert a fourth and short.
I'm not opposed to the chant, but at least don't do it after 3rd down in an obvious 4th down situation. That's just stupid.
its been going on for years (at least 2003, i think earlier). and making angry posts on mgoblog sure as shit aren't going to change a thing.
...................... ........................ ............................... .... ... ..... ....... at least it's better than the offseason (but not really).
It would be one thing if the whole stadium did it, but I'm fine with a little youthful exuberance from the student section
let's replace it with
WE ARE GOING TO EAT YOU
though it may be 'classless' in many people's eyes, there is no way it is stopping. The university attempted to stop cursing at Yost 2 years ago after "Fuck you state" could be heard clearly on TV. I think they even threatened booting people who cuss out of Yost, we've seen how well that is worked. And if you think you suck is classless you should take a stroll to a hockey game sometime, which is definately one of the best sports venues in America.
I totally agree. The point is that it's nothing new and less unbecoming than many of our older chants.
So what's the big deal about it? What's with this exaggerated political correctness?
Saying "you suck" is classless? What year are we in?
For years, the hockey student section has used the phrase in a variety of cheers. Not to mention the fact that the students at the hockey games say so much worse and it's all sanctioned by the university (objecting to the c-sucker part of the chant only was basically an implicit acknowledgment that the rest of the cheer was ok).
The phrase "you suck" is basically ingrained in the lexicon of sports. I challenge you to go to a regular season game at any of the four major professional sports and not hear it said to players on BOTH teams.
Michigan is a classy institution. Classy like, we want our players to be student athletes and we demand excellence from our alums and yada yada. As a 20something I care about those things, I was as pissed as anyone about over-practicing. I don't accept "everybody else is doing it" as an answer because I hold Michigan to a standard regardless of what anybody else is doing. But, old people, this is where we draw the line. This is what you're upset about? This is what is classless? Ugh.
I think the "you suck" chant is silly. I think it's mindless. I think it's great. It's smart-ass Michigan students being as literal as possible. I think it's great. And as someone who attended right about the time it started, I hope the student section is doing when I'm turning 70, all 8 "you suck"'s and the loud "you suck" at the end. I'll consider it a proud part of my legacy just as my older cousin takes pride in adding the hand signal to go with "douche bag" in the hockey penalty box chant.
In short, take some time off from putting your keys back in your old-ass pockets to cover your ears after third down, because that cheer ain't goin' nowehere. GOOD DAY sir.