Don't care. Just win, then I'll worry about his on field actions.
to play football, not to play trumpet
Don't care. Just win, then I'll worry about his on field actions.
There are many nice teams in the SEC you may want to consider following.
You can win without embarrasing your team.
We should win and win with pride and class. And if we're going to lose, the players should not make themselves look bad.
Hey AL DAVIS, is that you risen from the grave?
Like Tom Gholston.
Gholston sat for the punch, not the attempted murder. I still agree that Lewan should sit, but just pointing that out.
I hate to say it, but Lewan did pretty much the exact same thing as the Gholston-Denard head twist.
Not to mention the egregious holding no call he had against isiah lewis on the play before the head twist.
What is the problem with the "egregious holding no call"? It is not his fault a penalty was not called.
Besides grabbing a facemask, I don't really see any similarities to Gholston who dove in and yanked the facemask hard and fast. Lewan, while completely and utterly wrong and horrible, just tugged it. Sort of like the difference between whiplash and push in the back
Plus, remember, Gholston was suspended for the punch only, as there is clearly a rule that a punch automatically results in a one game suspension (and he shouldve been kicked out the game). He didn't received any subsequent penalty for the facemask pull (or all the other crap he did that game)
btw... that is a horrible gif. If you are trying to show Lewan is bad, why mess it up with two additional plays that are nothing abnormal? Show the tug and move on.
Take off the Michigan glasses and put on your normal pair. It was just as bad and just as disgusting.
as is unfortunately becomming our MO, he will be suspended after a big outcry, which will be both highlight that Michigan got killed, that Lewan did this, that we did not suspend him at first, and only suspended him after the pressure to do so became too much. Always a day late and a dollar short, that is the Michigan difference.
Man, the self-loathing is strong.
Yes it was an egregious act and if wasn't flagged it shouldve been but this is no way rises to the level of a suspension. Gholston was suspended for a punch, and a punch only. A despite the rule book and the blatantness of the punch, the so-called Dean of Discipline acted as if Gholston did nothing wrong. That was the outrage. Not one minute of the missed game for Gholston was due to the facemask, the arm bar, etc. Did Lewan punch Allen? No. If the Big Ten steps in and tries to suspend him, it will have vastly overstepped.
Take off your MSU glasses, it was bad, but definitely not as bad.
I don't remember that part.
...that Taylor would have been suspended for at least a half. The words are nice, but don't mean a ton without actions.
Agreed. But I still like the remorse as opposed to the excuses.
point, he is going to get suspended, right?
The Big 10 is investigating him. He's probably going to miss some time. Classic hothead, has been one for his career here.
And holding him as an example. I get your point and don't defend him. It does end up being a mixed message.
Hoke should sit him before Big Ten has to. Unacceptable from a Michigan Man.
At least 1/2 game. We would demand as much from MSU or OSU.
And he's our "leader?!" Maybe that gives us just a bit of an idea why this team is the way it is? He thinks playing dirty is playing "tough." There's a disconnect somewhere.
And he's our "leader?!" Maybe that gives us just a bit of an idea why this team is the way it is? He thinks playing dirty is playing "tough." There's a disconnect somewhere.
Dudes been collecting these dumb penalties since he was a freshman. A mean streak is always good for a no-lineman, but he lets his emotions get the best of him far too often.
The original "no-lineman" may have been more appropriate for this season.
It's clear Michigan needs to update their offense. I hope that against Nebraska they roll out what I called the Super Spread or 9 wide formation: QB, OC, and 9 WRs.
On the (surely very rare) 3rd and longs, we can switch it up to a Semi-Super Spread with 8 wide and keep an RB in for blocking or screen passes.
That may work, as long as Fitz isn't the one doing the blocking.
Indeed, the way the season has gone it would have been appropriate to just leave it as is. I didn't even think about it until I re-read the sentence.
I'm not saying I condone his actions, but I get it. Even the best people lose their cool every once in a while. It was embarassing that it was caught on TV multiple times, but I am starting to feel bad for the guy. He came back to help this team win a championship and things just haven't gone their way. He's done everything he can to help his team but I think frusturation just got the better of him. He's still a great leader for this team and from my view on the couch, he looked like the only one that had a fire inside.
But this isn't his first time doing this crap. He's been doing it his whole UM career.
It's tough to watch this season kind of slowly spiral into meh when a guy like Taylor Lewan put his professional career on hold to try and help this season be special and have it not come to fruition. Add to that the indignity of having MSU embarass them in East Lansing when clearly Lewan wanted to come in there and give some payback for all the shenanigans in 2011.
Sucks, but life is rarely a Hollywood ending. Many times the bad guys win.
Not sure who the "bad guys" are to you, but Lewan did the exact thing we were all freaking out about last season. If anything, he's the pretty clear cut "bad guy" now.
you have to fuck up pretty bad to get Brad Nessler to turn on you.
"...he looked like the only one that had a fire inside."
I don't buy that - there was plenty of effort from a lot of them.
I feel bad for the guy for staying too, but that is not an excuse. He should sit for a full game.
Hoke said if he believed Lewan should be suspended he would've done it by now. I disagree with Hoke's decision, Lewan should be suspended. No excuse for what he did and he should be punished for it.
Agreed. Lewan's antics cause me to think less of him as a player, and Hoke's (non) response causes me to think less of him as a coach. That said, my opinion isn't worth shit, and the current athletic administration keeps reminding me of this fact. sigh.
For anyone else who didn't see it during the game.
I hate this style of play and I wish Hoke had suspended him for a game.
Hoke should sit him for an entire game imo. I don't think Hoke is harsh enough with punishments
Agreed. He should absolutely be suspended for the Nebraska game.
And I agree that Hoke hasn't really shown himself to be very harsh with penalties. He pretty much hands down the minimal, without being insulting, penalty. In this case, apparently it's "none."
I was just assuming he would be suspended. I don't think there is any question he is going to be suspended by the Big Ten. I mean, I really think that if Hoke wants to go the minimalist route, it would still be wise to suspend him for a half against Nebraska and perhaps the conference would call it all square. This way he is basically guaranteeing that the conference will suspend him one game, unless they have already reviewed it and deemed it not-suspension worthy, and that would really surprise me.
a one game suspension, but intentionally grabbing a face mask after the play is over (and risking a serious injury) deserves nothing. He just lost all credibility with me.
Can you find an occasion when somebody was seriously hurt by having their facemask pulled like Lewan did? I hate to sound like a Lewan apologist (and he should have been penalized in the game), but football players running full speed who get facemasked by other football players running full speed rarely get injured. I have literally never seen someone seriously injured from a facemask penalty. Ever.
Meanwhile, driving under the influence puts you at risk of hurting or killing yourself, any passengers, civilians walking down the street, people in other cars, etc.
Is a DUI/criminal offense a worse offense than pulling on a guy's facemask on the football field? Absolutely. Get your head on straight.
the answer to your question would then have to be, "it depends on if anybody gets hurt." That cannot be the appropriate conclusion. The appropriate punishment should be determined by intent, including indifference toward causing harm, not by the effect. A DUI driver intends no harm at all, but his actions are reckless enough to be deemed criminal. Lewan's actions were either intentional to cause pain, or reckless as what the result would be. If you are saying that Lewan "intended harm in the form of pain but not serious injury" and thus should not be disciplined then you are splitting too many hairs. If If
Playing football generally involves trying to cause people pain but not serious injury.
while the game is actually being played and not 4-6 seconds after the whistle, correct?
Did any of you folks calling for Lewan's head actually play football? What Lewan did was uncool but there was little chance of hurting the guy who has a neck capable of supporting a small house, and it was nothing like what happened to Denard a few years ago - Denard's helmet came off if I remember correctly.
This holier than thou attitude is getting old. I watch a lot of football and don't see anything any better or worse in any other confernce and with most teams. Our shit stinks too..
About 1/3 of the fanbase is like this. I question whether they ever played as well. Lewan should have been penalized...got it....move on. Here we are several days post game and adults are still aghast over his actions. Come on. Have you been in the bottom of a pile up? Have you had your junk grabbed or your eye poked? It happens every game. I'm sure there was a great deal of trash talk going on the entire time. So, the young man lost it. Assess the penalty and give him a warning. I mean, damn, ever watch a hockey game? I, for one, love the fire in Lewan's belly and he has limited his penalites the last two years, so let's not suggest that he was been reckless from the moment he stepped on campus.
That's fine. I get it. It's worth a penalty, clearly. The penalty, however, should be less than a suspension. It's nobody's fault that the referees didn't catch it during the game, but if they did, he would have been assessed 15 yards. Just because they didn't catch it, he should now be suspended? That doesn't make sense at all.
Case #1: I get caught by a police officer's radar gun going 15 mph over the speed limit. He gives me a ticket that costs me $150.
Case #2: You get caught by a traffic camera going 15 mph over the speed limit instead of by a living, breathing police officer . You have to spend the night in jail.
Tell me why I get off with a light-ish fine, but you have to spend the night in jail. How would that make any sense?
I'm pretty sure if Lewan wanted to hurt someone by pulling their face mask he could. He was just trying to piss the other guy off and get him off his game. It didn't work, and it was wrong, but a suspension is overboard.
don't get how Hoke kept saying 'Big Ten Championships' when we can't even win our division first. i hope this embarassing loss to State really gave them a lesson(After Akron, Uncon, and PSU). It def gave me a lesson on how much faith i should put in for the coaches.
As a UM grad, win against rivals is the most important thing to me. I cannot accept 'just win home games and lose the rest' concept.
This. I don't care if you can go 9-3 every year if your three losses are ND, MSU, and OSU. Those are the games you have to win if you want to be a coach at Michigan.
(Taylor L)ewan should be suspended for the rest of the year. Kid shouldn't see the field again in maize and blue.
For real? I agree with the commentary that Lewan's behavior was inappropriate and that he deserves some sort of punishment (half to a full game suspension sounds about right). That stated, anything over a game suspension strikes me as reactionary.
Your cry to essentially throw him off the team (esp. after he sacrificed being a sure 1st round pick last year) would be very unjust, and way out of proportion to the offense. He made a mistake in the heat of the moment, and should be treated accordingly.
Hoke needs to sit Taylor. Players have to be held accountable for their on the field and off the field actions, even if it hurts the team.
5th year senior. Take a seat on the bench, Taylor. Unacceptable. I know you didn't want to get "bullied" but State beat you up legally, between the whistles this time, not after. All this "Michigan Man" stuff is BS if he plays next week.
Can we suspend the coaching staff for a half for putting the players in spots were they can't succeed. Lewan was a very frustrated player Saturday. He apologized, he is ashamed, lets move on.
We had a lot of frustrated players last Saturday, but only one who acted out like Taylor did. Devin probably was (or had right to be) the most frustrated player on the field, and did he twist any facemasks? No! He kept working his ass off every play.
Lewan's supposed to be a captain and a leader on the team, those actions aren't okay from a captain.
This is a very good point.
Well lets be honest Devins not 6'7 318 pounds. You're not pulling too many facemasks when you're 218 pounds on a football field
Ah, so being physically large gives you the right to be an ass and embarass your team?
I love that, by your lights, there are only these three categories! Are there no classy winners in your world?
Penn State is classy? I know it has been popular recently to feel sorry for the current coaching staff and players but come on. "Classy" is not the word I would use to describe a program that is home to the biggest scandal in the history of collegiate athletics. And that scandal did not involve free tatoos and lying to the NCAA. That scandal hurt innocent children. If that is classy, I am glad you labeled OSU "sleazy" and "low class."
as Lewan did not apply nearly as much force or twist the mask as far around. But still a dirty play and entirely unacceptable. Hoke should have already suspended him from the next game. Much better for Hoke to take the action, not just utter words, to show that this is unacceptable, instead of waiting for the BIG to do so.
Lewan needs to sit a game. I was furious for a long time when Gholston, IMO, assaulted Denard. Like, I wanted him to go to jail. When we start comparing Lewan's action to that one and rationalizing inaction by the number of degrees Lewan twisted the facemask compared to Gholston's twist, we've already lost.
-1 for Hoke in my book.
this is worth 15 yards for being so damn awful
At least State scored a TD though.... /haz sad
He was just being a jerk
Hahaha. I mean I thought that was a good one. Then the gif just makes me laugh more for some reason.
How is Michigan supposed to stand up against that kind of elite athleticism?
Dat 2" Vert
That is awesome! That's worse than a baseball walk off celebration.
If this was caught during the game, it would have been worth a 15-yard penalty. I don't get why people are saying he should be suspended for a game. Are all unsportsmanlike penalties, late hits, etc. worth 1 game of suspension to you?
If the Big Ten wants to give Michigan a 1st-and-25 on their first possession against Nebraska, I'm okay with it. A suspension, however, is unwarranted.
this is not a football move and is worthy of a suspension. IMO, it's far worse than a punch since it risks serious injury.
Late hits and the like are football moves in violation of the rules.
Just like above, when have you seen a serious injury occur from an action like that? In all my years of playing, coaching, and observing, I have never seen a serious injury caused by a facemask penalty or the like.
I don't see a morgue filled with football players who got punched either, yet they'll still suspend you for that.
That's fine, but a punch during a play will still get you kicked out of a game. A facemask during a play will get you a 15-yard penalty.
How this is bigger than the samoan lineman from MSU diving over the pile multiple times trying to strike players after the play is beyond me.
And don't get me started on the Targeting NON-call on the hit on Gallon at the beginning of the game that shot his mouthpiece to the bench. Talk about crap not getting called OR investigated.
I heard the helmet-to-helmet on that play!
Now, that's a judgment call. I have real doubts about that rule. And real sympathy for the refs. It is always going to be a bitch to enforce that one.
But if we are going to get into the dubious business of reviewing tv broadcasts to impose ex post facto penalties and suspensions, then yeah.
All unsportsmanlike penalties are not the same and warrant a punishment but in this case it does. Should Kalis be suspended for his unsportsmanlike penalty in the Penn State game, no. Lewan, yes. What he did on the field was more than excessive and this is coming from a leader and a captain of your team. Lewan should never sink to the level of Michigan State players and retaliate with the same actions. What I saw on the field was not the Michigan Difference and being the bigger man.
I ask you this, if Gholston didn't punch Lewan and only twisted Denard facemask, would you be in favor of a suspension or would you let it go?
Hoke needs to suspend Lewan for half a game.
This stuff reminds me of the struggles of the PGA tour, with regard to viewers calling in rules violations.
Twisting, pinching, biting, spitting, etc....part of the game since it's inception. Young men get frustrated and act out. It's only an issue now because of the multitude of camera feeds, and the 24 X 7 media machine that requires regular feedings.
i would be ok with taking away his captaincy for the nebraska game and letting him try to re-earn it for the OSU game over the next three weeks.
He should probably be out for 1/2 the game at least. Can the B1G give partial suspensions? Would we not demand the same if this were an MSU or OSU player?
but yeah, unacceptable.If I had it my way he would be off the team. Hell, the season is already lost from a B10 championship standpoint, so make a statement that this is not what Michigan is about. It might have a long-term benefit, too, in the team culture. On a more realistic note, I hope at least a 1-game suspension is in order. I agree with the others that Hoke has been proactive enough with discipline issues and stuff like this will continue to crop up unless he takes a strong stand.
Note: I understand 15 yard penalties and late hits happen due to emotion, adrenaline, whatever. Lewan has always made these sorts of plays and while dumb and hurtful to the team, are understandable. What he did on Saturday was not a football move, had an intent to injure and is inexcusable. I don't want him on my team.
this was not an intent to injure. Like a playground shove, he was getting the player's attention and sending a message.
go on about their business. That is unacceptable.
"that I root for" would be implied in my post above, but I guess you never can tell with some posters on this site.
To clear up any confusion, I do not in fact believe that I own a college football team. The implication is that I value certain things about the team I like, hope these values are upheld, and dislike when these things are violated.
I know every fanbase has serious cognitive dissonance issues but man. You take a look at reactions here for Ghouston's actions vs. Lewan's, ND's treatment of Floyd vs. Hoke's treatment of Stonum, the laughter at ND's coaching carousel mentality vs. all the calls here to fire our coach every 3 years, etc. etc...it really drives the point home. I enjoy being able to objectively evaluate stuff and to come to the same conclusion, whether I'm looking at UM or one of its rivals.
Yes, illusory superiority is probably quite enjoyable. Too bad to the rest of us, you're just a self-righteous jackass.
but I don't have my entire identity wrapped up in the win/loss record of the team I like/school I went to. I like doing things the "right way" (even to the detriment of our W/L record) and have no problem calling out UM when I think they aren't. I watch every game and keep informed via MGoBlog and whatever else but I don't get sad or angry or have any part of my day ruined when Michigan loses a game. I'm generally tough on discipline issues and believe second strikes should result in permanent dismissal. I guess this makes me a jackass, fine by me.
There's nothing particularly wrong with most of those (ignoring the implication that you have all the facts in evidence when it comes to "second strikes" and the idea that your arbitrary judgments are beyond question), but that's not what makes you a jackass. What makes you a jackass are two things:
1) The self-aggrandizement involved in pretending you're "above it all" as if we're just lowly emotional peons with no self-control compared to you
2) The fact that you lack the self-awareness to understand that you're doing it. This might be even worse.
Can we be internet friends at all?
You are all allowing television announcers and directors to suggest how to run our football program.
This is bullshit. If there were no suspensions for Will Gholston's helmet-twist on Denard (Gholston was suspended for throwing a punch), or his arm-bar on Lewan that caused injury to Lewan, or Marcus Rush's flagrant personal foul that took Denard Robinson out in 2011, then there can be no basis to suspend Lewan. Not unless the Big Ten Conference is as susceptible to tv-suggestion as the MGoBoard.
All bets are off, when we play MSU. It's a different code of conduct. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
If the Big Ten tries to suspend Lewan, I hope Brandon and Hoke stand up for our guy, and they fight it.
It's a different code of conduct
Pulling someone's facemask to the side is asking for some kind of neck or spinal injury and is a clear intent to injure. MSU got away with some but that doesn't make what Taylor did anymore right. He should sit for a little while.
And don't make all of us sound like we're helpless sheep listening to what The Media says maannn. Taylor clearly rips his facemask to the side. Not ok
it is guys like Lewan that I want to be wearing our colors.
If you are all so concerned about Michigan's image, I'd suggest that we could do with about 150% less in-game trashtalk out of guys like Norfleet and our d-backs. I seriously think that we are the worst trash-talking team in the B1G that I've seen this year. I'd forgive it, during an MSU game. But they're doing it in every game.
I wonder if Lewan is regretting that decision not to enter the draft last April. Starting to feel bad for the guy cause he truly bleeds maize and blue.
Lewan has been doing this shit his entire career, but just now was caught in a manner that everyone has finally taken notice. As a boring old former lineman, I've watched him closer than most people watch linemen, and he's habitually pulled this bullshit. I should know, I unfortunately was considered a dirty lineman myself and I know some of the tricks of the trade (not that I'm proud of that). Not sure how he's gotten away with it for so long. As impressive of a talent as he is, and as admirable as his off the field work is, his unsportsmanlike attitude on the field has been and is unbecoming of not only a capitan, but a Wolverine in general.
Apologize all you want, Taylor, you're a damn dirty lineman and now everyone knows. If you even possess the ability to change your style of play after who knows how many years of it, you better do it right now with no excuses and take some more damn pride in that winged helmet.
Play back the tape where Taylor got punched by Gholston. He walked away. It got in his head though and it came out in this game. That is all.
I'd rather we suspend him for a game. I don't want us to look as bad as MSU did when they looked the other way on Tom Gholston.
but you look good. At least we know what matters in life.
...is just frustrated and disappointed with this year's team performance(s). This is so below Michigan football standards and it's painful for players, coaches and fans. Michigan wasn't even competitive in this game. Very uncharacteristic.
That play could have ruined his future if the helmet were a few inches one way or the other. He was punched in the gullet two years before on the very same field. The whole nation saw Denard's near beheading while under a pile of Spartans. Denard, who more than anyone is responsible for Lewan's repute as an NFL caliber OT. Hmm... I wonder why Denard came back for this game.
It was a bad play on Lewan's part but I don't think the score or this years record was on his mind when he pulled that face mask.
He deserves a suspension, and I'm disappointed that Hoke isn't manning up on this (especially since the conference will suspend him anyway). Let's be honest with ourselves; if the tables were turned and Lewan was wearing a green jersey, we would be all over MSU for their thuggish behavior. Everyone who doesn't see that needs to take off their maize and blue glasses.
...I read lips, and I'm sure the State player said, "Hey Taylor... Would you try cracking my neck? It's a little stiff." Taylor said, "Sure buddy."
Let's be honest with ourselves; if the tables were turned and Lewan was wearing a green jersey, we would be all over MSU for their thuggish behavior. Everyone who doesn't see that needs to take off their maize and blue glasses.
I'll be totally honest; I wanted Dealny to suspend MSU players for doing what Lewan did. Delany wouldn't do it. Actually, what Gholston and Marcus Rush did two years ago was worse. But for present purposes, let's say they were the same.
Delany suspended Gholston one game, for the "punch" thrown harmlessly at Lewan's helmeted head. An act on the part of Gholston that was purely an embarassment to the Conference on television; not seriously calculated to injure anybody.
Meanwhile Gholston arm-barred Lewan and put him out of the early series in the 2011 game.
Later, Marcus Rush committed the personal foul that put Denard Robinson out of the game.
I called the Big Ten offices; so did a lot of people.
IT DIDN'T DO ANY GOOD. WE TRIED TO GET THEM SUSPENDED; DELANY WOULDN'T DO IT!
This isn't about anybody's hypocrisy; I freely admit that I wanted Gholston and Rush to get lengthy suspensions.
BUT SINCE THE B1G DIDN'T DO IT TO RUSH AND GHOLSTON, THEY CAN HARDLY JUSTIFY "CRACKING DOWN" NOW, IN THE CASE OF TAYLOR LEWAN.
I don't want special treatment for Lewan. I want him to get just what Marcus Rush got, for actually injuring our quarterback and putting him out of the game. That is, NOTHING.
I'm with you (and Magnus). You're not going to convice the others who think this is suspendable. The "this is Michigan", "higher standards", Unnacceptable" mindset is too powerful to look at this, like you say, how the Big Ten office looked at Sparty's actions two years ago: one's that injured people and received no punishment. If something comes of this from the office sh*t better hit the fan from Michigan's standpoint.
I love how Nessler stated that Dantonio in pre-game meetings during the preceeding week stated "..he's always had problems with Lewan and that he's a cheap player.." Insufferable. This guys had demons on his team and he dislikes a guy from the other Michigan team for a few "minor" incidents, (which were likely influenced anyway).
Not defending his offenses.
Just looking for equal treatment.
Add me to the list of people disappointed in Hoke's response.
If becoming a sleezy team and losing every year to MSU and OSU would cause most of you to cease calling yourself Michigan fans, I would welcome it with glee. Most of you are pathetic.
I believe nothing that comes out of Lewans mouth... He has a history of these incidents and a history of lying to the media about doing or not doing things again...
That Lewan doesn't really give a flying %&#$ about what you believe. Get over yourself.
It's also a good thing that I don't care what you think either... :)
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This was a borderline "heat of the moment" play, as he had to reach down and grab the facemask. And he's a Captain and a Senior, which means he has to set examples for good behavior and take his lumps when he does something stupid. To maintain long term discipline, Hoke should suspend him. (And he should NOT be defending Lewan's actions)
what Lewan did wasn't as bad (simply in terms of the helmet twist) as Gholston's. I've watched both about a half dozen times now, and frankly, I think both are equally reprehensible and "violent".
I'm also part of the crowd that doesn't think he should be suspended for that action, even when taken within the larger context of what was a pretty douchey game from Lewan. I also find it absolutely laughable that some morons on here would actually defend his actions by citing the 2011 game. Seriously? If that was the case, or a legitimate rationale at all (it isn't), then last year was the occasion to "make your statement"...You know, when the guy that perpetrated most of the questionable 2011 plays from MSU was still on the god damn field!!! What a joke.
There's no question that Lewan has a very suspect reputation around the conference, and that he loves to get his paws inside the face masks of opposing d-linemen...There's also some pretty good youtube footage floating around the internets, with him engaging in a few other suspect activities (including a chest stomp against IU) that I'm surprised didn't garner more attention.
Did Dantonio and/or Big 10 bench Gholston? My memory says "no."
I'm not pleased with Lewan's antics - but I'm a hot head too and I can tell you I've done things in the heat of battle I've not been proud of, that were more for show than injury. I hope that was the case, but no excuses. It was poor judgement.
I wish this had been called in the game, because the penalty would have been assessed at that time.
Basically it's a personal foul. The MSU player was not pinned and helpless. The MSU player was not injured. However Lewan's action was deliberate, hence the personal foul.
This is not how anyone associated with Michigan whether fan, alum, student, or staff expect Michigan's athletes to conduct themselves.
Lewan has admitted that he was wrong, that it should never have happened, and apologized. He said there was no excuse for it.
I guess I like Magnus' idea. Michigan self assess a 15 yard penalty on their first possession.
roughness be done with. Let's get back to playing football - where some things get called and some things don't - where with very few exceptions the best team wins. If the league speaks so be it. I personally do not take umbrage at Hoke for basically following the same line Dantonio did with Gholston.
Taylor Lewan does not deserve this sort of treatment given what he has done and has experienced while wearing a Michigan uniform.
This is not a vote, but if it were, put me down for 1/2 game suspension for play and a game suspension from being a captain (ie he doesn't go out for the coin flip(s)).
I just want to opin that Lewan should be suspended by at least Hoke, if not the B1G. I don't understand otherwise. I am surprised as I thought this is one area that Hoke has done a good job. I think he should be help to a higher standard since he is a captain, albeit the Worst. UM Captain. Ever. Be a good message to send. And appropriate.