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Ravens to Build Statue of Ray Lewis
February 7th, 2013 at 4:40 PM | 
He wasn't convicted because
He wasn't convicted because
February 7th, 2013 at 5:00 PM |
It’s telling that he got such a light sentence.
It’s telling that he got such a light sentence.
Don't you think that if they had solid evidence against the guy that he would have received more than 8 months? I mean, the man is black and we all know how the justice treats black men. The idea that a black man can get off--saving for gross incompetence--is clearly ludicrous if one considers the experience of black men in the US judicial system.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
February 7th, 2013 at 5:03 PM |
What about OJ? I think it
What about OJ? I think it
What about OJ? I think it proves that you can get away with pretty much anything if you have the financial means.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:08 PM |
I referenced that by mentioning prosecutorial incompetence.
I referenced that by mentioning prosecutorial incompetence.
OJ got off because the prosecuting attorneys and the LAPD was incompetent. They basically assisted the defense with their many errors.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
February 7th, 2013 at 5:04 PM |
High profile black man can't
High profile black man can't
High profile black man can't get off or a light sentence? O.J Simpson comes to mind.....
Just do it!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:21 PM |
No. Not really. Celebrities
No. Not really. Celebrities
No. Not really. Celebrities get sweetheart deals all the time. The prosecution knew Lewis didn't do it, but they also knew he knew who did it. They gave Lewis the deal and he became their star witness.
This happens a lot.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
February 7th, 2013 at 5:19 PM |
So now being at a scene is
So now being at a scene is
So now being at a scene is equivalent to being guilty? The only thing he was ever charged with was obstruction of justice. Not to mention you say he wasn't convicted, well he wasn't even charged with the murder. Can I say unequivocally that Lewis had no part in the murders? Of course not. But you can't say he certainly did it and just got lucky nobody came forward as a witness, he was a high profile athlete, of course he would be recognized. Our justice system is designed to try to avoid putting innocent people in prison. There was not enough evidence to try or convict ray lewis on murder and so he was not. I just do not understand why exactly everyone has decided they know better than people who were actually a part of the case?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:25 PM |
Everyone's kinda doing the
Everyone's kinda doing the
Everyone's kinda doing the same thing you're doing, just on the other side of the coin.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
February 8th, 2013 at 3:11 AM |
I'm trying to play devils
I'm trying to play devils
I'm trying to play devils advocate in this, my post says I don't know what happened, I just think its absurd that people have so little doubt in their mind despite knowing a tiny percentage of the facts. That is all. Have any of the people in this thread seen Lewis's deposition? Read over the police report? Done any legitimate research on the issue? Because if they haven't I think its absurd they are trying to degrade this man with so few facts.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:03 PM |
This post had promise, but
This post had promise, but
This post had promise, but they you used "no" to mean "know" and I missed the rest.
"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"
-Gordon Gee
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 PM |
I bet he wears a nice white
I bet he wears a nice white
I bet he wears a nice white suit for the dedication. He's just gotta find where he left it.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 PM |
This is Baltimore gentleman.
This is Baltimore gentleman.
This is Baltimore gentleman. The gods will not save you.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
February 7th, 2013 at 4:15 PM |
Holy shit this a stupid idea.
Holy shit this a stupid idea.
Holy shit this a stupid idea.
Sent From My Commodore 64
February 7th, 2013 at 5:09 PM |
Simple and to the point.
Simple and to the point.
You win the thread.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:23 PM |
Pos bang to anyone who makes
Pos bang to anyone who makes
Pos bang to anyone who makes a murder joke in this thread.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take multiple stabs at it???
Hail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:36 PM |
Your humor is slitting my
Your humor is slitting my
Your humor is slitting my sides.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take multiple stabs at it???
Hail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take multiple stabs at it???
Hail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take multiple stabs at it???
Hail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:31 PM |
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take
Even if we have to take multiple stabs at it???
Hail.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:35 PM |
He murdered 2 men. Ha ha ha
He murdered 2 men. Ha ha ha
He murdered 2 men. Ha ha ha
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
He murdered on a Tuesday
He murdered on a Tuesday
After using deer antler spray Monday. Then came on strong wedensday and found God by the weekend.
GRwolverine73
February 7th, 2013 at 4:24 PM |
I don't see what's wrong with this
I don't see what's wrong with this
I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:34 PM |
I'm not sure...
I'm not sure...
...about "everyone" killing people but plenty of celebrated leaders have killed and many of them do have statures built in their honor.
Personally I think stature are overrated. I've seen far too many of them with heads covered in birdshit to ever want one for myself.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:46 PM |
I think that went right over
I think that went right over
I think that went right over your head.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:57 PM |
Happened to me earlier this week
Happened to me earlier this week
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:57 PM |
Not really.
Not really.
I'm familiar with Tyrelle Pryor quote and all the snickers it generated amongst th hoi polloi. But it's actually one of the more perceptive things he's ever said considering that he views himself as being above the average person and that like most elites believes that he can (and probably could) get away with murder just because of who he is.
February 7th, 2013 at 11:41 PM |
Wow
Wow
This actually might be more ridiculous than Pryor's statement.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:46 PM |
They should us the copper
They should us the copper
from Joe Pa's statue.
"The guts and glue of the Maize and Blue" - Bob Ufer
February 7th, 2013 at 4:49 PM |
In Addition To The Statue...
In Addition To The Statue...
The whole article also has this tidbit - "He has not expressed an interest to coach," Harbaugh said. "I have asked him, but he's not interested."
I suppose when you're getting a statue, a possible multi-year deal as a commentator from ESPN, and your son has sent his LOI to Miami to be most likely an RB, then there simply aren't enough hours in the day to coach as well.
Could anything else be done to undeservedly feed this man's ego? I suppose the crowd for the dedication could be told to gather on the opposite side of the stadium from the actual statue, and the explanation could be, "Sorry, we gave a misleading statement".
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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February 7th, 2013 at 4:52 PM |
That statue should be in
That statue should be in
That statue should be in Cleveland.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
February 7th, 2013 at 5:21 PM |
And Peyton Manning should
And Peyton Manning should
And Peyton Manning should have been playing for the baltimore colts.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:57 PM |
I loathe Ray "I didn't see nothin'" Lewis
I loathe Ray "I didn't see nothin'" Lewis
I really do. And, the best summary of the death of the two young men I heard came from Rick Reilly (slightly shocking, I know)
He said something along the lines of how the police never went after another person in the death of those two people. Therefore, as far as the legal system is concerned, they both died of spontaneous stab wounds.
Can we get a statue where he is in the pose of "See No Evil" with his hands over his eyes? That's my suggestion.
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February 7th, 2013 at 5:05 PM |
It reminds me of the Biggie/Tupac killings.
It reminds me of the Biggie/Tupac killings.
Somehow both men ended up dead, but there are no culprits in either case. Apparently the concept of Omerta has spread to the urban black community.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
February 7th, 2013 at 5:09 PM |
Often times the police may
Often times the police may
Often times the police may know 100% someone is guilty but not have the evidence to go to trial.
Just do it!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:17 PM |
And often times trials happened because the prosecutor
And often times trials happened because the prosecutor
needs to hold someone responsible even though there is only circumstantial evidence. The justice system is dirty both ways.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
February 7th, 2013 at 5:30 PM |
I am not going to sit here
I am not going to sit here
I am not going to sit here and say the cj system is perfect it is not. But our cj system in this country is much better than the majority of countries you could be living in.
Just do it!
February 7th, 2013 at 7:00 PM |
That...
That...
...is a stunningly naive statement. You must be an American.
February 7th, 2013 at 7:00 PM |
That...
That...
...is a stunningly naive statement. You must be an American.
February 7th, 2013 at 8:03 PM |
?
?
Do you have any empirical evidence for that? I'm aware of some evidence suggesting that outside of the Middle East, our court system is falling behind most other countries. With 1/3 of AA males behind bars at some point, and the correlation between private ownership of prisons (and subsequent increase in lobbying by those private companies) and the rise in inmate population, along with the growing evidence of incarceration of innocent defendants, one could argue that our system of justice is a complete failure. There are many other countries where I'd rather be a defendant or the victim of a crime. In my own building (in a solidly middle-class and trendy neighborhood), the police will not bother to come to arrest a known drug-dealer because they are too busy chasing down murderers, and there were still over 500 shooting deaths just last year here.
Show your work, or I'm not buying your conclusion.
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February 7th, 2013 at 11:39 PM |
Go to jail in Ann Arbor then
Go to jail in Ann Arbor then
Go to jail in Ann Arbor then go to jail in Mexico tell me wich one you prefer.
Just do it!
February 7th, 2013 at 5:48 PM |
Hypothetically
Hypothetically
To my knowledge he gained immunity from prosecution after entering the plea deal. Smart move. Hypothetically speaking, if one is guilty, this is a good way to go:
1 Commit crime with accomplices
2 Enter plea deal to throw accomplices under the bus and gain immunity
3 Testimony against accomplices yields insufficient evidence to convict them (because they didn't do it!)
4 ???
5 Profit
Hypothetically, of course.
February 7th, 2013 at 4:58 PM |
I suggest they make this out
I suggest they make this out
I suggest they make this out of paper mache so when the next Ray Lewis scandal inevitably breaks, it's easier to tear down.
Seriously: murder(ish), obstruction of justice, steroids... what else can the guy do?
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February 7th, 2013 at 5:40 PM |
Well, uh, nevermind.
Well, uh, nevermind.
Well, uh, nevermind.
Yes, THAT Craig James. Allegedly.
February 7th, 2013 at 5:10 PM |
Comerica Park has a giant
Comerica Park has a giant
Comerica Park has a giant bronze statue of Ty Cobb and nobody seems to have a problem with that. So whatever, different strokes different .
February 7th, 2013 at 5:11 PM |
I really feel there's extremely low standards
I really feel there's extremely low standards
for statues. Maybe they can start with naming a Baltimore street after him, or the "Ray Lewis County Jail"....Then work up to a statue based on how his retirement goes. Baby steps, people!
February 7th, 2013 at 6:34 PM |
We should build a statue of
We should build a statue of
We should build a statue of the UNA bomber...
February 7th, 2013 at 7:02 PM |
Someday..
Someday..
...someday indeed...
February 7th, 2013 at 6:44 PM |
The statue will be complete
The statue will be complete
The statue will be complete with a knife in one hand and a monopoly "get out of jail free card" in the other
He wasn't convicted because the prosecution couldn't find a witness that could testify they saw Lewis stabbing the victim. But there were plenty of witnesses who verified that Lewis was present. Plus, they had him on obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, and probably accessory to murder.
Ultimately, the prosecutors gave Ray a deal he couldn't refuse.
"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost