Rational MSU fans, your thoughts for this weekend

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October 10th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
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Rational MSU fans, your thoughts for this weekend

I know there are a few users around here who have established themselves as rational MSU fans. I've seen some pretty unbelievable comments in other places (no links, you go to these places at your own risk) about how Michigan is so over-rated and MSU is going to kill us, so I'm interested in hearing some more rational insights. So, this is for you. After seeing how we handled our first away game, what are your thoughts for this weekend? Homerism aside, do you agree with the odds placing MSU as the favorite?

 

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October 10th, 2011 at 4:49 PM | So far, no takers (Score:4 Normal)
wolverine1987
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it may take awhile to find some rational ones.

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October 10th, 2011 at 4:50 PM | Thanks for asking, bro.  As a (Score:5 Normal)
ChuckWood
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Thanks for asking, bro.  As a very rational MSU fan, I think the Spartans will win 69-0.  

It is what we do.  We have by FAR the best D in the Big Ten and maybe even the world.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

October 10th, 2011 at 4:50 PM | Dust off your lamp, Diogenes. (Score:5 Normal)
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October 10th, 2011 at 5:00 PM | scUM (Score:5 Normal)
ypsituckyboy
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TYPICAL scUM FAN, REFERRING TO PHILOSOPHY LIKE YOUR SMARTER THEN US...WE HAVE AN EXCELLANT TEACHING PROGRAM AND VETERINARY SCHOOL AND BUSINESS SCHOOL, ON PAR WITH ANY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY...YOUR GOING DOWN FOR THE 4TH YEAR IN A ROW WITH BRADY cHoke!

October 10th, 2011 at 5:01 PM | smarter "then" - (Score:-1 Flamebait)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | He was obviously joking... (Score:5 Normal)
Erik_in_Dayton
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Are you obviously joking too?!  Am I too old to understand a one-upsmanship of irony? 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

October 11th, 2011 at 1:45 AM | (No subject) (Score:3 Normal)
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October 10th, 2011 at 5:06 PM | Sarcasm meter... (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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It goes to 11.

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 PM | I'm glad you saw this the way I did (Score:5 Normal)
Erik_in_Dayton
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From the Simpsons:

Teen No. 1: "Are you being sarcastic, dude?"

Teen No. 2: "I don't even know any more."
 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

October 10th, 2011 at 5:08 PM | False. (Score:5 Normal)
maizedandconfused
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It goes to 25

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:06 PM | Excellant=excellent....maybe (Score:-1 Trolling)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:13 PM | You forgot the, I GOT IN BUT (Score:5 Normal)
chunkums
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You forgot the, I GOT IN BUT CHOSE TOO GO TOO MICHIGAN STATE BECUASE ANN ARBOR IS GAY AND YOU CAN GET JUST AS GOOD OF AN EDUCATION IN EAST LANSING.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

October 10th, 2011 at 5:28 PM | Why are you talking in caps ? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:34 PM | WHY DOESN'T IT READ????   (Score:5 Normal)
freernnur5
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WHY DOESN'T IT READ????

 

Quick! To the Hindenpeter!

October 10th, 2011 at 7:54 PM | PLUS I"D BE SURPRISED IF THEY (Score:3 Normal)
MilkSteak
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PLUS I"D BE SURPRISED IF THEY ACTULLY GET TO PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE HOKE IS FAT AND WILL EAT THE BALL. 

"I'm the guy who does his job. You must be the other guy."

 

October 10th, 2011 at 9:48 PM | Nice but (Score:1 Normal)
MGoSoftball
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USNWR ranks our education, business and graduate programs higher than MSU.  Sorry to deflate you with the facts.

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October 10th, 2011 at 4:53 PM | What is this (Score:5 Normal)
KaMGoBlue
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"rational MSU fan" you speak of? Is that a mythical creature like a minotaur except with worse personal hygiene?

October 10th, 2011 at 5:01 PM | Interesting question posed (Score:5 Normal)
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My father, who raised my siblings and I to be Michigan fans, and who also watched two of those children stray off to become Michigan State students and alum, refuses to make a prediction on this game. As I'm his lone suriving michigan-fan son (and therefore, rightful heir to his keep), I've spent the better part of the last six years encouraging him to keep the faith.

He's torn between my mother, who has turned to the dark side and now roots for Michigan State, and myself, who is right. Obviously I'm right, because, well, come on. I think in his heart he knows it, and he won't celebrate if we lose. He will when we win.

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:11 PM | I bet (Score:4 Normal)
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your mom is now a huge lions fan too

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:02 PM | There are some... (Score:1 Insightful)
amphibious1
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I know of 1 who posts here regularly. He always has well thought out points... I actually think his moniker is rationalMSUfan.

Florida Wolverines have dreadlocks...

October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | We also have WatersDemos, but (Score:3 Normal)
justingoblue
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We also have WatersDemos, but he rarely talks football.

Go Blue!

October 10th, 2011 at 10:01 PM | Whoa. WatersDemos is an MSU (Score:3 Normal)
Transatlantic Flight
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Whoa. WatersDemos is an MSU fan? Did not know that somehow. He is one of my favorite posters. Good man.

October 10th, 2011 at 5:27 PM | Pretty sure Ty from Lions In (Score:2)
Yinka Double Dare
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Pretty sure Ty from Lions In Winter is also a Sparty fan.  Some of the guys from Only Colors will post here from time to time also, but I assume you'll get their take on the game on their actual blog later this week rather than a board post here.

October 10th, 2011 at 5:03 PM | One Michigan fan's take. (Score:2 Normal)
justingoblue
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It all comes down Sparty O-line vs. MM and Co. If we can make Cousins life miserable, we win. If we can't, it could get ugly. Their defense is good but we should score points (also probably just as important to win is Denard's throwing).

Go Blue!

October 10th, 2011 at 5:48 PM | BWC SMASH (Score:2)
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BWC SMASH. Bring it this game. Please.

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

October 10th, 2011 at 5:57 PM | I think Denard's throwing is (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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I think Denard's throwing is by far the biggest key to this game. If he goes out there like first half NW, we're toast. If he goes out there like second half NW, we probably win big. Their D is good, but not good enough to contain a team with a competent run and pass game. They won't score much on our D, I'd say around 24 points. If Denard can hit receivers, we'll score 30 no problem.

October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | I think Hoke is really (Score:-1 Redundant)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:37 PM | I hear (Score:0 Redundant)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:05 PM | Oxymoron? (Score:2 Normal)
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Oxymoron?

October 10th, 2011 at 5:07 PM | Fairly confident (6.5 out of (Score:5 Normal)
GoBlogSparty
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Fairly confident (6.5 out of 10) MSU will pull it off, but not as confident as I was in the pre-season. Your team has looked consistently impressive...MSU has been streaky. I'm disappointed in the fact that it's a noon game which means the crowd won't be as "jacked" as a 3:30 or a night game.

Key matchup: Your D-line and blitzes vs. our O-Line. If our O-Line can at least play like they did in Columbus, then we will be in a good position to win. I think we have the better defense, but your defense is much much improved from previous years and can at least make some plays and get some stops. I am a little worried about our offense, particularly the running game, though I don't think you guys have seen the run-up-the-middle types of backs like Baker and Bell yet. The Notre Dame running attack was similar but was run from a spread and not the power I.

X-factors might be the return of Tyler Hoover and Bennie Fowler. Hoover is a monster at DE and played a big role in keeping Denard at bay last year. Him, Rush, and Gholston should play well enough and stay home so he doesn't break off big runs. Fowler stepped up big time last year at WR so he will be important in giving a 2nd option on the edges for Cousins.

Not expecting a blowout in either direction.

My thoughts.

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

October 10th, 2011 at 5:11 PM | ^^^ (Score:5 Normal)
Erik_in_Dayton
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A rational reply - and from a cat with a watermelon on its head, no less. 

 

EDIT: That's a watermelon, right?

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

October 10th, 2011 at 5:14 PM | My guess would be a lime. (Score:2 Normal)
justingoblue
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They're letting people practice law who think a cat would be able to wear a watermelon hat? Jeez.

/sarcasm (just in case it's needed)

Go Blue!

October 10th, 2011 at 5:39 PM | Pretty sure the actual image (Score:3 Insightful)
MichiganExile
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Pretty sure the actual image is an orange and it has been photoshopped green.

October 10th, 2011 at 6:28 PM | Green? (Score:5 Normal)
Corey
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Meh.

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:38 PM | I have always thought that was a lime. (Score:2)
LB
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And I like watermelon, what was I thinking?

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:14 PM | The one thing about Baker and (Score:2 Normal)
freernnur5
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The one thing about Baker and Bell is that we do better with between the tackles running. Teams exploited us running to the outside with speed, but with Mike Martin in the middle we do fairly well shutting those lanes down. Granted we have not really faced a true Power I team that State runs, especially with the two TE set. So it will be interesting, but I would be way more worried about your rushing attack if you say had a LaMichael James type burner that always got to the outside.

Quick! To the Hindenpeter!

October 10th, 2011 at 5:17 PM | If your OL played so well in (Score:4 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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If your OL played so well in Columbus, then why did you only score 10 points? Was there another offensive unit that played poorly?

October 10th, 2011 at 5:23 PM | Answering as a Michigan fan, (Score:3 Insightful)
Michael Scarn
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Answering as a Michigan fan, but I think it was a combination of a lot of poor play calling and Cousins making some poor decisions that had big consequences.

I would bet MSU fans also felt that OSU's D-Line is elite, so an adequate performance against them satisfied some worries.  Something I would kind of disagree with given Miami's gashing of OSU. 

October 10th, 2011 at 5:27 PM | *should've clarified....by (Score:2 Normal)
GoBlogSparty
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*should've clarified....by played well I meant that if I recall correctly only allowed 1 sack. Cousins had a decent game with 250 yards passing, but just made a boneheaded decision late for an INT. The running game was still abyssmal.

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

October 10th, 2011 at 5:51 PM | OK, but don't you think the (Score:1 Flamebait)
WolvinLA2
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OK, but don't you think the running game being abysmal has a lot to do with the OL playing poorly? Your RBs are good, so it's probably not on them. Pass pro is only one part of the OL's job. I still don't think your OL is any good.

October 10th, 2011 at 7:18 PM | You're splitting hairs (Score:2 Normal)
GoBlogSparty
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You're splitting hairs here:

1) I never said the OL was any good.....not sure what you are trying to argue

2) I said they played well. A bad OL can still play well.....well enough to keep them in position to win....which is what they did.

I had another post a few weeks back talking about the attrition/injuries on the O-Line and how thin the front was when 3 O-Linemen were originally flipped from the DL.

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

October 10th, 2011 at 5:18 PM | What were the levels of (Score:2)
Michael Scarn
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What were the levels of injury to Hoover and Fowler/how fully have they recovered? Will they be back at 100% playing every down, or just able to contribute and provide some depth?

 

October 10th, 2011 at 5:31 PM | All I know is that Fowler had (Score:2 Normal)
GoBlogSparty
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All I know is that Fowler had a "foot" injury. I haven't read anywhere or heard what it relates to.

His condition has been week to week and was expected to be back for CMU but that obviously didn't happen.

Hoover has sore ribs. He was slated to return against OSU but coach held him out to give him the extra 2 weeks to heal. I believe he is scheduled to be back on Saturday.

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

October 10th, 2011 at 5:58 PM | So... (Score:2)
CalGoBlue
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Is it a watermelon, lime, or something else?

(Seriously, I appreciate your calm and rational responses.)

October 10th, 2011 at 7:19 PM | I'm gonna go with a (Score:3 Interesting)
GoBlogSparty
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I'm gonna go with a watermelon or an orange that's painted green. There's no way the outside peel of a lime can fit over the head of a kitten....and i've seen some pretty small kittens in my day

Your friendly neighborhood Sparty

October 10th, 2011 at 7:40 PM | " i've seen some pretty small 'kittens' in my day" (Score:0 Overrated)
October 10th, 2011 at 5:52 PM | That cat is wearing fruit for (Score:3 Normal)
MWW6T7
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That cat is wearing fruit for a hat...........your argument is invalid!

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:58 PM | A sane answer (Score:1)
notYOURmom
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And even a classy one.

October 10th, 2011 at 7:55 PM | Did you watch the SDSU game? (Score:1)
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We did pretty good against Ronnie Hillman who at the time was the second leading rusher in the nation.

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October 10th, 2011 at 5:09 PM | How can we expect their fans (Score:5 Normal)
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How can we expect their fans to be rational when their "professional" sportswriters ink things like this gem from SpartanMag homer Matt Dorsey:

 

With only a few spots left for the class of 2012, Michigan State is being very selective about the players they are actively recruiting.

 

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