RankByOffers.Com Has Michigan Commit Myles Sims Ranked As The 9th Highest Recruit In 2018 Class

Submitted by MichiganStan on

This is a pretty interesting angle on how to rank football recruits in the country. This site ranks the players by the quality and quantity of their offers.

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2018fbplayers/

Here are the notable Michigan Commits and Targets in the rankings:

9. Myles Sims: 36 FBS offers, 19 Top 25 offers

11. Mustapha Muhammad: 34 FBS offers, 21 Top 25 offers

31. Emil Ekiyor: 34 FBS offers, 15 Top 25 offers

42. Jeremy Ruckert: 30 FBS offers, 17 Top 25 offers

43. Kamryn Babb: 30 FBS offers, 17 Top 25 offers

58. Jahan Dotson: 28 FBS offers, 16 Top 25 offers

70. Ronnie Perkins: 31 FBS offers, 14 Top 25 offers

77. D'Shawn Jamison: 31 FBS offers, 12 Top 25 offers

102. Amon Ra St Brown: 25 FBS offers, 14 Top 25 offers

139. Michael Thompson: 23 FBS offers, 12 Top 25 offers

143. Christian Turner: 27 FBS offers, 5 Top 25 offers

156. Micah Parsons: 20 FBS offers, 14 Top 25 offers

203. Tyler Friday: 20 FBS offers, 9 Top 25 offers

206. Joe Milton: 23 FBS offers, 7 Top 25 offers

210. Gemon Green: 24 FBS offers, 6 Top 25 offers

215. Shayne Simon: 21 FBS offers, 8 Top 25 offers

230. Daniel Faalele: 19 FBS offers, 9 Top 25 offers

278: Otis Reese: 16 FBS offers, 10 Top 25 offers

289. James Graham: 18 FBS offers, 9 Top 25 offers

325. Tyler Shough: 17 FBS offers, 6 Top 25 offers

524. Aidan Hutchinson: 13 FBS offers, 2 Top 25 offers

584. Ryan Hayes: 11 FBS offers, 2 Top 25 offers

603. Jalen Mayfield: 16 FBS offers, 1 Top 25 offer

704. German Green: 10 FBS offers, 2 Top 25 offers

 

 

 

 

 

 

corundum

May 30th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

This methodology is interesting but doesn't address the validity and legitimacy of each program's 'offer', and whether or not the offer is commitable.

Blueblood2991

May 30th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^

On the opposite side of what you said, some recruits only report offers of schools that they are actually considering, while others report every school that sends them a brochure in the mail. That's how you end up with guys like Najee Harris listing around 15 offers, and 3 star guys reporting 70+.

Nice idea in theory, but it's pretty pointless when schools can't comment on the recuits and verify.

PopeLando

May 30th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^

Man, Unique Brissett II must be the #1 overall recruit! That MSU recruiting reporter publishing that Unique Brissett II was actually ON CAMPUS for his visit...remains one of the funniest things I've read. Never change, Sparty. Actually, on second thought: change and change quickly.

getsome

May 30th, 2017 at 5:34 PM ^

and players like otis reese who commit early and therefore almost certainly do not receive all the offers they wouldve gotten if they hadnt "firmly" committed early in the process.  those type situations occur all the time.  though clearly imperfect, i guess its still another interesting piece of data to have available for rabid fans

rainingmaize

May 30th, 2017 at 5:48 PM ^

Look at Brey Walker for example. The Oklahoma commit is 18 overall on the 24/7 composite. But on this list he is ranked in the 600s as a result of him both commiting early, and because most schools aren't going to bother trying to recruit him because they all know any elite prospect born and raised in Moore, Ok. is going to Oklahoma.

Mr. Yost

May 30th, 2017 at 5:57 PM ^

An offer from S. Carolina means more than OSU?

Please explain.

 

....that makes no sense to me.

 

On another note - there are two reasons (IMO) which are much more important in discrediting the validity.

  1. Everyone doesn't have the same number of scholarships to offer. You could have great prospects without offers or good prospects WITH offers based on how many offers any particular school gives out - due to their space. I'm sure last year Michigan gave out more offers when we had way more scholarships AND position needs.
  2. Position need - we all have different recruiting needs, if we have 7 QBs coming back we're not going to give out as many QB offers as if we would if we had 2.

 

However, it is an interesting, lighthearted way to look at rankings...it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme.

JonnyHintz

May 30th, 2017 at 5:17 PM ^

Another issue is with players like Ryan Hayes. For all intents and purposes, Hayes is in the middle of nowhere. Living in Traverse City, you don't play a lot of high end talent and most schools aren't coming to your area to evaluate players. With that, he is a three sport athlete. Meaning he hasn't hit the camp circuit at all, or at the very least he has been limited to just a few. This obviously affects his exposure to top programs. So a player like that is only going to get regional interest regardless of talent. I mean how likely is a SEC school to send a coach to evaluate an OL in northern Michigan?

corundum

May 30th, 2017 at 5:23 PM ^

This is exactly one of the reasons why Wisconsin's recruiting classes almost always outperform their rankings. Kids insta-commit to the program without going to any camps and are under-scouted in the rural midwest. Combine that with allowing these 'lower profile' kids to develop in the system for a couple of years before serious action, since they aren't entitled to immediate playing time like some 5* recruits, and you have a recipe for longterm program stability and success.

trustBlue

May 31st, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^

The same thing hapens with expert rankings too. If kids are stuck in the middle of nowhere and dont go to camps they are unlikely to get heavily scouted by the ranking services either.  

By no means should these rankings be considered definitive in any way, but I think they offer a useful data point that reflects what we often do anyways - "He's only a three star but look at his offer list!"

war-dawg69

May 30th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^

Does not really matter to me because I have seen film on the spider and as far as I am concerned this kid is a legit five star. Ask Harbaugh what he thinks about this kid Sims and watch him go silent and just grin. Michigan stole one hear jack.

TheReal_GR3

May 30th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^

I find these rankings interesting but nothing more than that. For starters as some have said, each offer has its own value however. 

Secondly, some players don't get offers because schools don't think they have a real chance or the a kid is out of the schools league. For example JKP had more offers than DPJ, someting Donovan asked me about once. 

With that said it is still interesting to see at the very least which kids at some point peaked the interest of top ranked schools.

Ali G Bomaye

May 30th, 2017 at 6:53 PM ^

I don't put much validity in this as a ranking system. It's more of a curiosity.

That said, it's interesting that even our lowest-"ranked" commits have offers from roughly 20-30% of FBS schools and multiple schools in the top 25. It really puts it into perspective when people bitch about "nobody" commits - even those guys are desired by a whole ton of schools we're competing with.

MichiganStan

May 30th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^

Oh yeah its definitely doesnt seem like a good skill ranking system. Just interesting to see who has the most offers and the most offers from top 25 teams. I think its too biased towards Quantity of offers over quality of offers.

One ranking that seems obviously off is Otis Reese ranked in the 200s.

Reese only has 16 offers but his offers are almost all powerhouse programs such as Michigan, Clemson, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Louisville, USC, etc.

 

Mgodiscgolfer

May 31st, 2017 at 9:49 AM ^

Ekiyor would be a very close second if not the first. I do know Reese should be ranked just as high and in know way should he be the 278 player in any rankings. I am sure he has not fielded nearly as many offers as the others because of his committment to Michigan, as far back as last year. So I would say this site is flawed in a small way on where players should be ranked they may want to throw a few caveats out there for more accuracy.