Random Michigan Fan Questions

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

This weekend I've noticed that I've watched little to no college basketball...and I've realized that it's centered around the poor ending the Michigan's season. So what that said, I was wondering if this is the case for any other MGoUsers. Also a few other "fan questions."

A relatively quiet Sunday morning, figured it'd be a good time to stir up some discussion.

1.   When Michigan is losing in football, does it decrease your interest in CFB? Vise Versa?

2.   When Michigan is losing in basketball, does it decrease your interest in CBB? Vise versa?

3.   With Michigan out of the B1G Tournament, have you been more interested in Michigan's NCAA seeding or Michigan Spring Football?

4.   Between the Ohio game (or B1G Championship game) and the New Year's Day (or better) Bowl game...are you typically more interested in Michigan Football/early Bowl Season or Michigan Basketball (non-conference)/CBB? Does it depend on the success of either team?

5.   Who has a better shot at winnning a National Championship the soonest - Football or Basketball?

Thanks for answers...just interested to see what others think!!!

MichiganStephen

March 17th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

1) It's hard for me to watch other games after a Michigan loss that week.  When they are winning, I get more interested in the remaining games.

2) No and no.

3) I'm always more interested in spring football.

4) Bowl season.

5) Football - loaded roster in a weak B1G plus the fact that they have to be in the top 4 instead of the top 2 after this season to get a shot.

Blue-Chip

March 17th, 2013 at 10:45 AM ^

1. No. It just makes me overall less enthused with life. I should probably seek therapy.

2. When M is losing in basketball I just don't follow the sport at all. Basketball is in my opinion the worst of the major sports. Too much left to the whims of the officials. I do not miss it when I'm not watching it.

3. Spring football.

4. Football. Always football. See above.

5. Football. Basketball is too hard to predict due to the sheer number of one and done guys.

Thank you for completeing the survey. Wait, that's not right...

Mr. Yost

March 17th, 2013 at 10:46 AM ^

1. When Michigan is losing in football, does it decrease your interest in CFB? Visa Versa?
---Yes, for that weekend...but I'm excited again by Thursday of the following week. I love CFB, so if they're winning, I'll always be watching every game possible. The only reason I don't when they lose is because I don't want to see the highlights.

2. When Michigan is losing in basketball, does it decrease your interest in CBB? Visa versa?
---Yes, surprisingly. This is how this thread started. I was watching CRAZY amounts of CBB this year when Michigan was winning. Maybe I care "too much" but I haven't watched much of anything since they started struggling.

3. With Michigan out of the B1G Tournament, have you been more interested in Michigan's NCAA seeding or Michigan Spring Football?
---Again, surprisingly...Spring Football. I'll watch the Selection Show and they're going to have to win some games for me to truly get back into March Maddness fever 

4. Between the Ohio game (or B1G Championship game) and the New Year's Day (or better) Bowl game...are you typically more interested in Michigan Football/early Bowl Season or Michigan Basketball (non-conference)/CBB? Does it depend on the success of either team?--
---Basketball. There's just too many bowls to give a shit about 3/4 of them. If Michigan is supposed to be good in MBB like this year, then it's basketball by a long shot...but even if they aren't, I'd rather watch Michigan play directional-Michigan's than Troy play Wyoming in the water bowl.

5. Who has a better shot at winnning a National Championship the soonest - Football or Basketball?
---I only put this question on here because I have no feeling one way or the other. I can make cases for both. I'll be interested to see what others say.

MichiganManOf1961

March 17th, 2013 at 11:00 AM ^

1. Yes.  Yes.

2. Yes, severely.  Yes, severely.

3. Spring Football

4. Football of course.

5. Football, possible in two.  I just can't trust this basketball team.

~Herm

Mr. Yost

March 17th, 2013 at 11:10 AM ^

What about next year's team? Or the year after that? It's more of a "state of the program" question.

I think we all could agree that we could've trusted this basketball team to win a NC over last year's football team.

I just pick football based on the model. I think Michigan is in a much easier conference in football and can win the B1G and get to the National Championship easier.

That said, you lose a couple games in football and you're typically out. In basketball you just have to get to the dance and win 6 games in a row no matter what team you are.

LSAClassOf2000

March 17th, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^

1) When Michigan is losing, I will still watch other games mainly because as much as I am a fan of the Wolverines, football and the study of it is something of a hobby and it is possible for me to watch merely as a mere spectator in those cases. I do give myself some time - a few hours - after losses to simmer down, of course. 

2) Similar to the answer to the first question - not really, as I enjoy basketball, although I am a little more selective about which games I watch, whereas I can typically sit through a whole day of football. 

3) Spring football, mainly because there is some more interesting speculation and more interesting questions to ask regarding this season. For our Tournament seeding, the general range has been fairly clear for some time now and we'll know later today anyway.

4) Bowl season usually. I don't miss many hoops games, but the ones I do miss are typically early in the season in the  non-conference schedule. 

5) It's difficult to predict a championship in basketball with any real accuracy anymore, it seems, especially with the typical Tournament field and how the tourney itself is structured. If you ask me if this team going forward should make some good runs with Beilein, then it's certainly possible. It's just my own opinion, but I would think football is in the best position for this right now. 

rob f

March 17th, 2013 at 11:08 AM ^

1) When that happens my interest in CFB decreases but my interest in Michigan Football will never decrease.

2) Yes.  I like CBB, but it doesn't approach my level of interest in CFB

3) Spring Football.  For me, there are only 3 seasons that truly matter: Michigan/College Football season and CFB off-season, with an underlying overlap (is that possible?) of Detroit Tiger baseball season.   Yes, I do follow Michigan Basketball, Michigan Hockey, other U of M sports, Detroit Red Wings, and (ugh) the Lions, but Michigan Football reigns over all.

4) Easy answer here---Michigan Football and bowl season

5) Again, easy---and same----answer as #4 above: Michigan Football is in great hands and great position to soon play for---and WIN---the National Championship.

My one question:  Why U not include Michigan Hockey in this poll?

mGrowOld

March 17th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

 

1.   When Michigan is losing in football, does it decrease your interest in CFB? Visa Versa?  Not that much.  I can watch football basically till my eyeballs explode.

2.   When Michigan is losing in basketball, does it decrease your interest in CBB? Visa versa?  Big time.  When we're not in the Tourny I barely watch any of it.  When we're in I'm glued to the TV

3.   With Michigan out of the B1G Tournament, have you been more interested in Michigan's NCAA seeding or Michigan Spring Football?  NCAA seeding.  Spring Football is still waaaaay out in the future for me.

4.   Between the Ohio game (or B1G Championship game) and the New Year's Day (or better) Bowl game...are you typically more interested in Michigan Football/early Bowl Season or Michigan Basketball (non-conference)/CBB? Does it depend on the success of either team?  Football with the exception of 2008-2009

5.   Who has a better shot at winnning a National Championship the soonest - Football or Basketball?  Football by a mile IMO.  The schedule, if it remains as is, gives us a shot at a National Championship every other year. Conversely it sort of locks us in to a mediocre record every other year too.  Plus football is really only competing against 10-15 other teams with a real shot at winning.  Basketball is more like winning the lottery in its randomness year after year.

jmblue

March 17th, 2013 at 11:16 AM ^

 

1.   When Michigan is losing in football, does it decrease your interest in CFB? Visa Versa?

It generally does for a few days.  Then I get over it.

2.   When Michigan is losing in basketball, does it decrease your interest in CBB? Visa versa?

If you're talking about losing a single game, no.  One loss in basketball is not crippling the way it is in football (unless it's in the NCAA tournament, obviously).  

But if you're talking about Michigan being bad at basketball, as we were for a decade, that didn't kill my fandom but it definitely made me less interested in watching non-Michigan games.  The tournament is not the same when your team isn't participating.

 

3.   With Michigan out of the B1G Tournament, have you been more interested in Michigan's NCAA seeding or Michigan Spring Football?

Definitely NCAA seeding.  Selection Sunday is one of my favorite days of the sports year.  The committee evaluates your performance over four months of work and then sets up a wild three-week tournament.

Spring football has never interested me that much as a fan.  It's practice - we can't see what's going on, and it's impossible to tell how much of the hype is legitimate.  With it being preceded by three months of nothing and followed by four months of nothing, it's hard for me to get into a football mindset this time of year.  

 

4.   Between the Ohio game (or B1G Championship game) and the New Year's Day (or better) Bowl game...are you typically more interested in Michigan Football/early Bowl Season or Michigan Basketball (non-conference)/CBB? Does it depend on the success of either team?

 

This is basically the same as question #3, just in reverse.  The OSU and bowl games are the height of the college football season, while the December basketball games are only mildly important for RPI purposes.  At that point I haven't fully gotten into a basketball mindset.  I'm always more interested in a team at the height of its season.  

 

5.   Who has a better shot at winnning a National Championship the soonest - Football or Basketball?

Basketball.  That's not to say it's likely, of course.  But you just have to get hot for three weeks in March to win it all in basketball.  In football, you've basically got to be perfect all year long, which is extremely difficult.  Also, there are structural inequalities in football that make it hard for non-Southern teams to win national titles.  

ghost

March 17th, 2013 at 11:17 AM ^

1. Yes

2. No

3. Seeding

4. Depends on what bowl Michigan is going to.

5.  Football.  Less teams have a realistic shot at winning it.  Win your conference and don't lose more than a game you are probably getting a spot in the playoff.

MGoSoftball

March 17th, 2013 at 11:20 AM ^

1) When Michigan is losing in FB?  I go to every game so I stay to the end. I almost left early for the UTL game and that would have been aweful.  I stay to the end.  On TV if we are losing (ala 'Bama) I might switch over to check another game, but I always watch.  I dont watch any NFL games anymore so CB is the only football I watch.

2) BB Losing? I watch to the end.

3) BBT or Spring Game?  Both.  I watched every BTT game thus far AND every BB game this weekend.  The spring game will get here soon enough.

4) Football INCLUDING the 2008 and 2009 seasons.  I would not care if they went 0-fer.  I enjoy watching all things Michigan especially football and softball.

5) SOFTBALL.  I have said it before.  The SB team has the best chance of a NC of all varsity sports.  Volleyball had one hellava run recently.  I will sign the yellow and blue in the Diag and  post it on YouTube if another team other than softball wins a NC.

But to answer your question directly: football.  I think BB is a one-and-done sport.  Teams like Gonzaga have a good chance because they do not have star players that leave for NBA.

 

taistreetsmyhero

March 17th, 2013 at 11:34 AM ^

1) If Michigan loses in football, I can't watch any sport for about a week. This is mainly because one loss can ruin the whole season, so every loss hurts. And I'm still a sucker who watches sportscenter for sports news, and the football news cycle is about a week. 2) If Michigan loses in basketball, I don't really care that much. I get cynical about our prospects for success in the current season and seasons after, but since we can lose many games and still get into the tourney and win it all. I love March Madness even though it's a horribly unfair way to crown a champion. Sacrificing morality for the sake of entertainment is what sports are all about. 3) Seeding. This is the first season since 2008 (first time we made it back to the dance) that I've invested 100% of my fandom into the bball team. I can't think about the Red Wings, Tigers, Pistons, or even the football team. 4) Football. Always football. While I played bball and never gave football a try, I'm still a bigger fan of football. I just think it's a better sport. 5) I guess basketball? There's zero margin for error in football, and I think we're trending towards perfection but it's hard to run the gauntlet. In bball, it looks like Beilein will give us a perennial tourney team. All it takes is a hot streak at the right time.

ryanlove12

March 17th, 2013 at 11:39 AM ^

If Michigan loses, I'm pissed and find something else to do. If we have an unsuccessful season I am usually just watching our games by the end.

Football is always more important to me than basketball, but I don't miss a game in either sport.

I think the football program will win a national championship first. I hope bball does, done that tourney is about to start.

Jeff09

March 17th, 2013 at 11:39 AM ^

1. This cuts both ways honestly.  Sometimes I get so pissed off after a loss that I can't watch any more football and turn it off for the rest of the Saturday.  Sometimes though I need more football to take my mind off of the loss, so I turn to things like schadenfreude and other rooting interests to occupy me.  And to a certain degree it just doesn't matter to me what happens with Michigan as college football is by far my favorite sport.
2. I definitely lose interest in basketball when we lose and vice versa.
3. Spring football by a wide margin
4. Football by a wide margin
5. Basketball, because it only takes a few freshman to do it, and a hot streak in March.  Football takes a lot longer to build back up.

lilpenny1316

March 17th, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. More interested in hoops seeding

4. Football.  I enjoy the early bowl games and the practice hype over one of our 3rd/4th team guys (ie. Felman Malveaux in the late 80s, early 90s)

5. Football.  The B1G is still not very good, so you only have a couple equally talented teams to get through in conference.  And it's easier to win one bowl game as opposed to six basketball games in a row.  Finally I have a hard time finding the equivalent of the 5-12 upset in football every year.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

March 17th, 2013 at 11:50 AM ^

1. No. I'll watch junk like Utah vs Weber State until 1 am regardless of UM's record. 2. No. My interest is only diminished by OSU or Duke going deep into the NCAA. 3. Spring ball. Heck, even recruiting during spring ball is a fix for my addiction. 4. Football. 5. Football.

J.Madrox

March 17th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^

1. A Michigan loss will ruin my desire to watch football in the immediate aftermath, but given an hour of so I will watch other games. College football is 1A when it comes to my favorite sports, so I will watch it no matter what.

2. I pay more attention and will watch more college as a whole now that Michigan is good. During the dark days of my time there under Amaker I would watch Michigan and hope for the best, but not pay to much attention to the outside world of college basketball. But now that they are good I actually care about who else is good and how they match up with other teams.

3. Spring football, but mostly because the seeding stuff can be a bit hard to follow. Everyone says something different and I have no idea who is more accurate. Michigan is in the tournament and will probably be a 3 seed, maybe a four, from there I've moved onto spring practice.

4. Michigan non-conference basketball, at least now that they are competitive. To many meaningless bowl games for me to get to excited about it. I probably watch parts of most of them, but look forward to Michigan basketball games far more.

5. Basketball, because they will win it this year before Hoke leads the football team to the National Championship next January. 

Space Coyote

March 17th, 2013 at 12:28 PM ^

 

1.   Sometimes. If I'm frustrated I may skip the next round of games (say Michigan loses at a noon game, I may not watch the 3:30 games), but generally not much.

2.   Again, not too much. I still like watching college basketball, but generally my interest outside of B1G basketball is fairly little until tourney time. I'll watch a game here or there, but not enough to have a Michigan loss affect it much.

3.   Always football. I feel like the seeding thing is a foregone conclusion anyway. What will happen will happen, not much can be learned or whatever from it.

4.  Again, always football. I'll watch any Michigan basketball game I can, but football is always going to be number 1 with me. Plus, non-conference college basketball means so little in the grand scheme of things. Yes, it means something (it's why Michigan is still probably a 4 seed), but with so few important games and the importance of those games heavily marginalized, football is where my interest lies more.

5.   This is an oddly worded question. Who has a shot at winning the NC soonest is probably basketball. The talent is there this year to potentially win it. The talent hypothetically could be there next year to win it. I don't think they'll win it either of those years, but who has the better shot at winning it soonest? Probably basketball. Who is more likely to win a NC first? Probably football.

MaizenBlue93

March 17th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^

1. No, I always watch as much college football as I can, no matter what. Even though I'll be mad, I'll still watch the next slate of games.

2. No, basketball isn't as upsetting when they lose, I'll still watch as much college basketball as I can.

3. NCAA seeding, I'm living in the moment, seeing how much that Wisconsin loss is going to cripple us.

4. College football/early bowl season, because usually non-conference basketball is a bunch of uneven matchups, when the bowl season is the second best  college sports post season (NCAA tournament first.)

5. Basketball, because Michigan could win it this year, if not, maybe next year depending if Hardaway JR, and Robinson III return.

Tucker_Malcolm

March 17th, 2013 at 1:25 PM ^

What a bunch of fair weather fans in here. Seriously? A fucking practice game over Michigan's seeding? It's nice to see such amazing support when we start sucking.

pbmd

March 17th, 2013 at 2:25 PM ^

i have great respect for beiien and hoke. they both have improved their teams records and our perception of their programs.

hoke seems more driven and beilien is maybe too nice with officials and his players.

that being said, 68 teams are eligible to win  a few games in a row and be national champs in basketball. football requires a team to be judged one of 2(4 in the future) best teams at the end of the season to compete for the championship.

Felix.M.Blue

March 17th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

#1 YES, it makes me sick to watch other teams execute plays and make tackles. I sometimes want to cry when other teams DB's are in the same area code with the WR they are guarding.

#2 YES, see above

#3 1) Michigan Hockey 2) Hand visiting 3) Spring Football 4) Michigan Basketball

#4 non-conference basketball. The team plays D and rebounds some during that time. It's fun to watch.

#5 Football. Defense, defense, defense.

M-Wolverine

March 17th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^

1. When Michigan is losing in football, does it decrease your interest in CFB? Vise Versa? For the rest of the day after a loss it lowers my interest. I'll watch some, but not as excited for the big night game. A bad loss and it might be movie time. 2. When Michigan is losing in basketball, does it decrease your interest in CBB? Vise versa? Yeah, I watch less of other games. If it's not about standings and potential Tourney foes, I don't care about the other games. I wouldn't be watching Indiana-Minnesota if it wasn't about how it will affect us. But not the Tourney. When I get eliminated in my pool kills more interest in the games. 3. With Michigan out of the B1G Tournament, have you been more interested in Michigan's NCAA seeding or Michigan Spring Football? Spring Game > Selection Show > Spring Practice > endless prattle on potential seeding. We're not a one seed, we'll see how it goes. But the show and bracket analysis is fun. 4. Between the Ohio game (or B1G Championship game) and the New Year's Day (or better) Bowl game...are you typically more interested in Michigan Football/early Bowl Season or Michigan Basketball (non-conference)/CBB? Does it depend on the success of either team? Michigan Football > Good bowl games > good (rare) baketball games > bad bowl games > bad b-ball games. There are some bad bowl games, but college basketball in December is generally awful. Rare is the Michigan-Duke game. 5. Who has a better shot at winnning a National Championship the soonest - Football or Basketball? Football. The "all you have to do is win 6 games" is harder than it sounds. We're recruiting at more of that level in football, and just need to get to the game. Notre Dame just got there, and actually got unlucky to have to play Alabama. After Bama lost they were much more in line to play a Kansas State, and then who knows? We could be talking Irish National Champs. You need less luck to dodge a powerhouse in football. In basketball it's practically impossible. MSU had a easy run a few years ago, then hit talent and got blasted. That may change with a 4 team playoff.