Boise St went into Eugene last year, jumped out to a big lead and, as Oregon tried to come back late, knocked out the Oregon QB with a borderline late hit ( there were a couple of such hits ).
Mid-August, most Oregon players are tight-lipped about the opener, on the road at Boise St. Not Senior tailback LeGarrette Blount who loudly and frequently declares "We owe that team an ass-whuppin'".
The Game: The Boise St defense overpowers the inexperienced Oregon OL and shows extra intensity when tackling Bloun, who carries 8 times for -5 yds, including a safety. Boise St wins 19-8.
After the last play of the game, Boise State defensive end Byron Hout sought out Blount to tell him (reportedly), "Now you owe us two ass-whuppins."
The quote from Bosie St player that drew the Oregon Punch
i think he handed him at least one
among the people that think the punk from Boise should have at least been suspended for a game as well. Talking smack during the game / in the heat of battle is one thing...making a special effort to get a guys attention after the game by hitting his shoulder pads and then rubbing it in is another (in my book).
Seeing the expression on his face when he got clocked was priceless. I am glad Blount is gone for the year, but that clown from Boise got what he deserved.
I'm with you. I think he should have been sat for a game. That's pretty unsportsmanlike when the first week/weekend was about sportsmanship.
It also says something when your head coach is running over to you to shut you up only to be a few seconds late.
I also love the expression on his face. I would like to think that will be the expression on the faces of all the people who have been taking cheap shots am M as Rich Rod continues to rebuild a championship program. Just imagine, after the 2008 debacle of a season all of the haters like sparty, osu, rosenberg, snyder, some alums and so on, start talking their junk. Before they no it POW down they go with that priceless, just got their clocked cleaned, look on their faces. I can't wait.
he said something ... big deal ... players say stuff like that too each other all the time after the game ... blount (sic?) was mouthing off all summer about this game and got owned ... in that case im not surprised to see a little bit of gloating back ... classy? no ... but suspendable? no way, the bsu player did not make blount cold cock him blindly in the neck ... that is all on blount, his action, his responsibility
I can see what you are saying, but I disagree. I have played sports all my life and during games there are a specific set of rules, after games there are another.
Had he trashed talked Blount during the game (which I am sure he did) that is fine, but seeking him out after the game specifically to make that comment is way off base. He even grabbed at his shoulder pads to get his attention.
I am not saying what Blount did was right necessarily, he deserves the suspension and I applaud the coach for making it. That is a huge suspension for a guy who has asperations to play in the league one day. I am of the e-pinion however, that though he may not have deserved to get punched, some reprecussions were warranted. Since their coach doesn't seem like he is going to do anything, the punch seems like a reasonable punishment under the circumstances.
Peterson said he'd handle the discipline internally. And I agree with what other people have said, the Boise State player got what he deserved, so why should he be punished on top of that?
Note: not my neg.
deserves to be cold cocked in the neck when there not looking no matter what they say ... ive played sports my whole life too and agree its not classy but also understand that trash talk is something that goes on 24/7/365 ... you dont punch someone on it ... you take it out on the field where blount failed
for "not looking" after making a provoking comment.
he wasnt looking at him ... he already moved on ... i repeat the bsu guy is a classless moron but in no way does that mean he deserves to be cold cocked as you guys seem to be advocating for
he turned his back. thanks for the neg!
completely indefensible ... no man punches another man from behind ... right back at you with the thx
i haven't + or - anyone on here, someone else musta negged you. i was checkin the boise state dude for enraging someone and then "not looking". but i guess it's a good equation if ya wanna land on yer back...dude got KNOCKED DA FCK OUT!!!
Based on this logic, should the entire Michigan State team have been suspended when they planted the S flag in the middle of ND's stadium?
knowledge, the Michigan State team did not run up to the Fighting Irish team as they were exiting the field, collectively tap them on the shoulder to make sure they were looking, and then plant the flag in their faces. What Michigan State did was also classless, but it was not directed at the Notre Dame team (or members of the team) in any manner.
If an MSU player had taken the flag, run up to a ND player, and planted the flag in his face, I would say yes, he should be suspended.
Yeah, I would say that he only owes him one more now.
like a sack of potatoes.
Words are a part of football. If Blount needs to resort to punching players to settle the score, that's not the Boise player's fault.
I find it funny that Blount created his own downfall and has potentially lost millions of dollars due to Boise. First, his trashtalking, then, he punches a guy because he can't handle the trash after doling it out. Now, he's being projected as a free agent pickup, instead of a middle round draft pick. Way to let your emotions play havoc with your professional and financial future, bozo.
What do you call the Boise guy hitting Blount in the shoulder pads? That was a punch, just not to the chin.
I just got punched in the pads. Owie. I better deck you in the jaw.
It's called proportionality. Blount doesn't understand it.
Proportionality? what? I guess Blount should have taken time to weigh out the proportions of which action he should take? People are reactive, emotional creatures. Holding them up to such high, rational standards is a bit much. Ask any economist educated since 1980.
I'm sure you found Carson Butler threatening to fight Coach Rod appropriate in the OSU game last year since humans are "reactive, emotional" creatures. Or how about when Butler punched a kid in the ND game. Were you okay with that?
Were you alright with Woody Hayes punching a Clemson player? Norman Dale punching his best player? C'mon.
If someone gets in your face, after you talked trash in the media, and he throws in back in your face, and you react by punching the guy on national television, you deserve your punishment.
Go back and read my comments, then re-assess whether I am being ridiculous. I never said punching is ok. Your method of pushing my arguments to some extreme is just a weak attempt to bolster your own arguments. I never said punching is ok. I never said he should not be punished. I just dont think 1) his future should be in jeopardy under the circumstances; 2) we should take pleasure in a kid's future being in jeopardy; and 3) we should hold him to some higher standard because he is an athlete or on TV.
In the future, please read my arguments a little more clearly before calling me ridiculous. Stop, think, be rational - don't be emotional.
And, I think the punishment fit the crime.
And if we can't hold LaGarrette Blount to a higher standard in his response on Thursday night, don't ask me to in responding to your post. Your last paragraph is the height of irony considering the subject matter and your position on the topic.
"Your last paragraph is the height of irony considering the subject matter and your position on the topic."
Ummm, that is because it was supposed to be. Perhaps you are reading my comments, but not much more than that.
I think we simply disagree as to whether the punishment fit the crime.
My friend, intent. Blounts reaction is not cool but it sure wasn't as calculated as the Boise St. guy. I don't care if it was in the shoulder pads or the nuts, it was meant as aggression and smack. How about you win and shut your face and walk off the field. Then maybe you won't run into his fist. Like I said last week, they both should have shown some restraint.
Are you seriously comparing the two? The Boise kid hit his shoulder pads to get his attention, he wasn't throwing a punch. Was it classy...obviously not. However I'm sick of the whole "That Boise guy had it coming" thing. How!? Blount felt the need to talk shit repeatedly before the game, the Boise guy pointed out that he was a little of base. He wasn't belligerent about it, he wasn't in his face, he just talked a little shit to a guy that had it coming. Do I agree...nope...but comparing the two actions ridiculous.
The Boise State guy didn't throw a punch, he just rapped Blount's shoulder pad to get his attention. He shouldn't have done it and had a little more class, but it wasn't a punch. I would have suspended Hout for one game.
what the BSU player did a punch is like calling Charlie Weis Bulimic.
No empathy at all? Finding the consequences for Blount funny is a bit harsh. Sure the punch was over the line, sure he should be punished. But if the recipient of the punch is ok, I don't think it should put Blount's future in jeopardy. Football is a rough, intense sport. People loose their tempers, people throw punches. We shouldn't take any pleasure in a kid's future being in jeopardy as a result.
I just don't find any sympathy for him. Players are given a legal way to release aggression for 60 minutes - hit the other guy, run him over, go to the end zone.
PUNCHING IS UNACCEPTABLE. If he did that in the street he would have been arrested.
If I were given a $150,000 scholarship to play football, the last thing going through my head is to punch a guy on a nationally televised game when I've already been suspended for fighting in practice.
I sort of agree, but It wasn't his first problem with the team. He's a senior and should have known better. Most importantly, it was on TV.
Chances are the Raiders will take him. Al Davis is crazy.
yea, that Boise St fella certainly won't be sassin' off after games anymore. or at least keep his helmet on if he does.
My dad called what Hout said as soon as he saw it.
Hey, he gets a point from me. I think it's a pretty good line.
It was funny how Peterson said something to the effect of, "We did absolutely the right thing in not suspeding (Hout)." My initial reaction was that he was trying to justify, not just to the media and general public, but also to himself that Hout deserved nothing more than a slap on the wrist (or whatever the whole "internal discipline" thing actually means).
I'm in no way defending the stupidity and recklessness of what Blount did as I was pleasantly surprised to see Kelly bring down the hammer, but I also think that Hout was a complete jerk and didn't feel particularly sorry for him when he got clocked.
If that's all he said (and it may not be), that's fairly tame as far as trash-talking goes. That doesn't justify a punch in return.
I agree jmblue if thats all he said. Not bad at all, you don't go on live air and say your going to whup someone's ass than do nothing and expect not to hear anything back when you get beat.
before he got puched, I think it was all he said. He looked giddy, not angry, before he was punched.
He had a different goofy look on his face after he was punched, like "Whoah, where did that come from? Oh, hello, coach."
FWIW, I think Hout should be suspended for one game, for ( touching | tapping | punching? ) an opposing player and taunting hime immediately after the final whistle.
Peterson would have suspended Hout if Blount had not hit him? I think that Peterson sent the wrong message by not nicking him for at least the first half of the next game. Kudos to Kelly for getting Blount for the year, but still letting him stay in school to get his degree. Hopefully he learns from it and graduates.
If Blount doesn't punch him, no one would've even batted an eye at this. It would have been on par with a DB smack-talking a WR after he broke up a pass. Bad sportsmanship, but not even penalty-worthy.
Calling the hit that knocked Mazoli out of the game last year a "borderline late hit" is laughable. It was a horribly late helmet to helmet hit that warranted an ejection and multi-game suspension of its own. That's the root of the bad blood of the recent game.
the hit's at the beginning of the video
Edit: and it wasn't during the comeback attempt, it was the first series of the game.
knocking Masoli out of the game could be construed as doing Oregon a favor.
Wow, I hadn't seen that video before. That definitely adds context to the situation, both of those hits were beyond outrageous. It doesn't really change what the punishments should have been this year, I'm happy in both cases, but it's good to know a little context.
when will kids learn to just shut up and play football?
The answer is never.
The good news is that defeat in athletics can be humbling and motivating for the gum flappers. However, Blount has some serious anger issues that must be addressed and Chip Kelly knew all about it.
FWIW, that knock down punch of the Boise St. player was pretty impressive. If it gives even a few football players pause before spouting off put downs to opponents, then the Blount event might have some value.
Peterson said he'd be spending a lot of time with Hout this week. I take that to mean watching him running stairs and other punishments to be determined by the coach. The big problem I have is why wasn't Blount arrested right there on the spot. He also swung at a police officer or security guard or whatever he was. If someone said something to one of us and we hit him like that we'd be in jail, period end of story. It's the same as the incident where the Suckeye linebacker tried to rip out the Wisconsin QB's adams apple. These are criminal offenses plain and simple I'm not sure why they're not being treated as such.
and arguing for Hout punishment: really? I think you are forgetting that Blount STARTED and ENDED this sequence of events. Had Blount not begun the trash talking with this condescending "we owe you an ass-whuppin," Hout would never have responded with "guess it's 2 now." And no, I'm not resorting to some stupid "he started it, Mom!" argument either - one action clearly caused the other. Hout shouldn't have sought him out, but come on - if you think it's all hugs and kisses after a game like that you are nuts.
Imagine it this way, where all the events happened at once. If after the game Blount yelled to the BSU side that they were owed an ass whuppin, Hout reponded "better make it 2" then Blount decked him...would you seriously argue that Hout's actions were deserving of sanctions?
I think you are being way to simplistic in your rationale and overlooking what really started this. It wasn't the trash talk, it was a late (very late) hit on Oregons QB.
Can we stop pretending like we actually played 60 minutes on that field for a second? No one knows what Blount and Hout had been saying to each other pre-game or even during the game.
So I don't think anybody on this board can say they "kept score" of the taunting and trash talking, and that Blount or Hout had it coming.
However, the video footage that everyone saw was pretty damning of Blount in my view. He could have and should have just walked away. But no. He not only punched Hout, he almost went after some loud mouth, taunting fans on the way out. He was also lucky not to have been arrested by the Boise police who were restraining him.
Hout is an idiot (in my view) and deserves reprimand from coach Peterson and staff for demonstrating no class for Boise. He should have said "good game" and walked off the freaking field.
But no, he decided to do exactly what Blount did before the game, talk trash and cheapen Boise's victory. Way to go.
comeback. Certainly didn't deserve the response(by Blount). What it reminds me of though is that fight between FIU and Miami(yes, that Miami). Everyone of those players that used their helmets as weapons and stomped on the other players should have been dismissed from the team immediately, but that's not how they do things in South Florida.
Every time I see Miami that's what I think of. I can never respect that school because of that and they seemed to be the cause for all the celebration and taunting rules.
Hout went looking for Blount,he hunted him down to rub his nose in it.
Wow...I guess growing up in a tough neighborhood was good for something,we all learned that lesson at young age.
I was working with the camera guy when Frieder punched him at halftime. My esteemed colleague turned to me and had the same look on his face as Hout.
Not comparing motivation/culpability/ass-kickiness, just that wonderful facial expression.
Crap, I think I'm old.
If you're gonna punch someone in the face, at least take your helmet off and go at it (not that punching someone in the face or elsewhere is acceptable behavior).
The talking happens all the time - before, during, and after the game. It's just unusual when it results in a KO.