Quote About Previous Coaching Staff From Jake Rudock Interview - 08/28/2015
As the season grows closer and closer my obsessive need for content has increased exponentially. I came across this interview from Jake Rudock and found it very interesting and very sad. It is just another example at the ineptitude of the previous coaching staff.
At the 0:55 second mark, he was asked about how he's been in 3 or 4 different offense's in 4 years and he interjects with this gem,
"That's Shane. He's learned like 5, or 6, or 10, or 20."
All of the interviewers laugh and I even let out a chuckle but as I thought about it further, my heart just started to ache.
My heart aches because 1) I think I may have either stable angina or psychogenic chest pain secondary to the panic attacks and hyperventilating from watching the past several years. Either one sucks. 2) I feel so terrible for these young men. They commit to a program and sacrifice so much day in and day out for the team, all while trying to earn a degree on top of it. I played college football in AZ so I know what it is like to go through that.
I know these players are now getting the teaching and coaching that they truly need and deserve. I feel terrible for those that never got the chance to be coached by actual competent coaches in the past 7 years and even more props to those that stayed through all of the garbage.
Here’s to a bright season and even brighter future of Michigan Football. Cheers!
Edited: to make the title less alarming
August 30th, 2015 at 9:01 AM ^
August 30th, 2015 at 11:18 AM ^
Half the time the "great" RR offense didn't score many points, but even when it did, it scored in 2 minutes, or a TO in 2 minutes or 3 & out in 2 minutes. So not only was it a bad D with a bad scheme but the offense kept the D on the field too long and gave the other team a shitload of extra possessions and more plays with which to score.
August 29th, 2015 at 11:48 PM ^
RichRod (sans Casteel) was as bad at handling the defense as Hoke was handling the offense. We basically had half a competent coaching staff for seven years; it just switched sides of the ball in 2011.
Now, finally, we have reason to believe our staff is competent in all phases of the game, including even special teams, a longtime source of struggle. It's exciting.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:07 AM ^
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August 30th, 2015 at 4:00 AM ^
RRs last team sucked too. Got rolled by 35 pts vs. a bad SEC team in his last game. Lets call it like it is...he did a poor job at Michigan. He didnt get support but going 3-9 his first year was all on him and was a shock following 40 years of success...which lead to a loss of support.
Had he gone 6-6 then he would have had a chance...but he decided to tear down the system without the proper pieces to build it up. Shoulda coached with the talent he had (ala Harbaugh) and slowly built up the program his way. This was on RR.
August 30th, 2015 at 7:01 AM ^
why on earth would he delay putting in his system? Sheridan or Threet weren't going to get us to six wins no matter what system we ran.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^
Mallet would've stayed if he had told him he'd build an offense around his talents.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^
history. There is a book on it. It's been documented. Many factors played into RR's first season, and his record was what it was because of it. The people who hired him knew what he coached and should have known that his roster wouldn't result in an immediate winning turnaround. There were many assumptions on both sides and clearly Michigan people were upset with RR's selection and never backed him.
I think we've learned all these lessons which is why we are where we are today with The Coach that is Michigan and Michigan is him. And even he won only 4 games his first season at Stanford.
I expect this team to be solid and perform at a different level of competence, poise and confidence than we've seen in years.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
And even he won only 4 games his first season at Stanford.Context matters here. Harbaugh inherited a 1-11 team that had averaged 10 points per game in 2006. He then delivered a three-win improvement, including the largest upset in college football history.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^
Yes, and RR inherited a team that lost to App State and then saw 9o% of the offense graduate or transfer.
They were going to suck no matter what.
August 30th, 2015 at 7:22 AM ^
He DID coach the talent he had. The problem was he didn't have "talent" to work with.
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August 30th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^
Get the F out of here with this crap.
Something like 8 players that year played in the NFL the following 2 years. Michigan hasn't had a team with that much talent on it since.
Stop defending the worst coach in Michigan history.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^
August 30th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
He's 18th in all time career rushing yardage, fifteenth in rushing touchdowns while being the second rushing option on the field and played his senior season behind maybe the worst offensive line in memory.
Not saying he was snubbed out of a Heisman or anything, but if one back replicates his 2011 season this year the board is going to love him.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:48 AM ^
Yes, Fitz sucked here.....the minute Hoke/Borges started to install their offense. He was great in 2011 and then was terrible after....no that he is gone, he seems to be doing real well. Same for Rawls.
August 30th, 2015 at 7:40 AM ^
The offensive personnel was vastly inferior to last year. By any measure you'd care to use. I don't think that's even arguable. When's the last time a team had one returning starter? We've never seen anything like that here.
He only went 5-7 in 2009. That's with his offense installed for a year and a competent QB to run it. They would have been even further behind if they were just installing his new offense then.
We can agree that RR failed here. We should leave it at that.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:31 PM ^
We could have easily had a better record in '08. There were four one-possession games that ended up as losses:
Utah (25-23) ; Toledo (13-10) ; Purdue (48-42) ; Northwestern (21-14)
Utah would have been tough but the others were out there for the taking. Toledo certainly should have been a win - they were horrible, worse than us. Purdue almost surely is a win if not for the insane 3-3-5 switch that week that discombobulated our defense so badly that a 3rd-stringer at QB destroyed it.
I would say one of RichRod's shortcomings, up there with his handling of the defense, was his general inability to right the ship once it started to veer off course. Once the losses started piling up, you got the sense that he was panicking and his players seemed to feed off it. The confidence of September vanished. The 2008 team started 2-2 and finished 1-7; the 2009 team started 4-0 and finished 1-7; and the 2010 team started 5-0 and finished 2-6.
August 30th, 2015 at 2:05 PM ^
People want to debate the '08 season, and that's fine, but in my opinion, 2009 was the REAL horror. I had my hopes up, with a QB who could play the position in RR's offense, all those returning starters, and I was suckered into thinking that the defense would be much improved, even after the Woolfolk injury. They blew out who they should have blown out early on, beat ND, got into the top 25, and I thought the close win against Indiana was going to be a wakeup call for the team, not a harboring of the horrors that were to come.
Even the losses to MSU and to Iowa were close losses on the road to ranked teams, and still what I considered to be early in RR's tenure, I saw reasons for optimism. Even after the blowouts at PSU, Illinois, and Wisconsin, I saw a bowl game as a certainty with a win over Purdue, and that was reason to believe things were trending upward. That loss to Purdue at home in '09, the manner in which they lost, and knowing it for all intents and purposes meant a second straight season without a bowl game broke my heart more than any other game in RR's time in AA.
By the time Mississippi State pummeled them in the Gator Bowl, I'd become desensitized.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:18 AM ^
You can't say the defense was improving. Also, time and again they couldn't gain any yardage against the tough defenses. We were great as long as Denard was healthy. The problem was he would get beat up just like Gardner was getting beat up.
I'm not saying RR isn't a better coach than Hoke, but you can throw out that Hoke may have been an entirely different coach if Brandon wasn't around.
August 30th, 2015 at 9:22 AM ^
decisions, that's 100x more Hoke's fault that Brandon's.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:31 AM ^
In theory yeah, but it's not that easy to tell your boss (a man with a very itchy trigger finger) to stay away.
Brandon should have had the good sense to be like 99.9% of athletic directors and stay out of there.
Man, were we a trainwreck.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:48 AM ^
It is better to be fired than fail because of someone's interference. I bet Brady Hoke knows that now.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^
Better to do what you know is right then cow tow to a guy like DB. If you win, he can't do anything and if you lose, even if do 100% of what is asked, you'll be fired anyway so stick to your guns.
August 30th, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^
aren't the norm. Hoke had all the leverage until last season. Even if that wasn't obvious to Hoke, he would have had people around him pointing it out. It's natural to assign blame to the bad guy, but I'm skeptical that Brandon's meddling had much effect.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:30 AM ^
was a joke, getting blown out by the other MSU. RR had a winning record thanks to outscoring a hapless IL team 67-65 in OT!
August 29th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^
Shane really isn't that good of a QB to begin with.
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August 29th, 2015 at 11:36 PM ^
Trust me, I wanted him to succeed more than anyone. However, he's a perfect example of a very raw talent who was hyped like crazy for three years by Scout and Rivals, and it went to his head. He needed to come into the program with a lot of potential and very little hype, so his skills could be molded into gold.
Probably too late now.
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August 29th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^
You are right, we brought in a lot of kids over the years, and for a moment forget about how many stars they came in with. Most all had aspirations, some realistic and some a long-shot, to play on Sundays. While they all I hope availed themselves of a good education, the AD did not provide them with competent coaching to help develop that great potential into discernable on the field talent. So for most all of them, I truly feel bad.
August 29th, 2015 at 11:38 PM ^
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August 30th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
JH was being blown off by him when I heard him tell it.
August 29th, 2015 at 11:29 PM ^
Thought this was injury related or something actually bad
August 29th, 2015 at 11:33 PM ^
I'm so glad of the content. I thought a family member had died or something. Relieved.
August 30th, 2015 at 9:51 AM ^
I wouldn't feel sorry for him, it's the nature of the beast. All players have to deal with varied coaching acumens. Every player at this level and beyond has to deal with bad coaching, competition and injuries. Being successful usually means you are competent at overcoming these obstacles, lucky or a mixture of both.
August 29th, 2015 at 11:41 PM ^
He just didn't have the support here, and players did not buy in because it was the first radical change in program history since the 1960's.
August 29th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^
August 30th, 2015 at 12:07 AM ^
His success at WVU and Arizona (to date) speaks for itself. He's a good coach, it just didn't work out here for a number of reasons. Both sides needed to move on, but let's not act like Rich Rod is a terrible coach, because he's not.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:15 AM ^
. . . Is the new Michigan Mascot.
August 30th, 2015 at 12:45 AM ^
August 30th, 2015 at 12:00 AM ^
Contrary to what some believe people can win at WVU. It's not Purdue.
August 30th, 2015 at 6:53 AM ^
WVU actually played for the national title twice under Nehlen. He regularly won 8-9 games there. I'm not really sure where this idea that RR built up WVU from nothing, like they were a perpetual 2 win team, came from.