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Quite OT: Gary Carter Has Died At 57

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/sports/baseball/gary-carter-exuberant-power-hitting-catcher-dies-at-57.html


Hall Of Fame catcher Gary Carter has lost his battle with brain cancer at age 57. I hesitated in posting this at first, but I hoped that enough people in the MGoCommunity were huge baseball fans as well. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:17 PM | Damn.  I loved Diff'rent (Score:1 Funny)
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Damn.  I loved Diff'rent Strokes.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:32 PM | Nope, that's Gary Condit. (Score:5 Funny)
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Nope, that's Gary Condit.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:18 PM | Great Man (Score:1)
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I used to live with Gary's son-n-law several years ago.  From everything that I have heard, Carter was an even better man than he was a player.  Very sad.  57 is still so young.

Keep the change ya filthy animal.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:18 PM | Another piece of my childhood gone. (Score:5 Normal)
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The hard thing about being an Expo fan is that life doesn't go on. There's no new generation of players to replace the ones that are gone, and now they've started actually passing. It's very sad.

One of the greatest things about college athletics is that they'll never move your team to DC, change its nickname and unretire all the players' numbers. I appreciate that more with every passing day.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | You could have always started (Score:0 Normal)
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You could have always started rooting for the Washington Nationals.....

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:36 PM | I could have... (Score:5 Normal)
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...but when they unretired the numbers of Raines, Carter, Staub and Dawson they made it clear they were cutting their ties with their past. And if they didn't want me, I sure as hell didn't want them.

(They eventually reversed the decision, but it was too late. I was done.)

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:03 PM | The story of the Expos is (Score:4 Normal)
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The story of the Expos is such a shame.  It could have all been different if the strke hadn't happened in 1994, when they had the best record in baseball.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:21 PM | Seems impossible (Score:3 Normal)
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Very sad.  57 is way too young. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:22 PM | His  self-aggrandizing (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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His self-aggrandizing campaign to get in the HOF tarnished my opinion of him, but he was still a heck of a ballplayer in his prime.  Thoughts and prayers to his family. 

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Mighty big of you to (Score:5 Normal)
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Mighty big of you to acknowledge his skill despite all the personal pain he's caused you.  You are a true gentleman.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:31 PM | He was, by all accounts, a (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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He was, by all accounts, a self-centered, egotistical man.  He was called a bad teammate by Keith Hernandez and is not looked upon fondly by many Mets and Expos fans who met him.  I feel terrible for his family because 57 is way too young for a wife to lose a husband and a daughter to lose her father, but it doesn't distort the fact that Carter wasn't known as such a great guy. 

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:34 PM | Still, you're not supposed to (Score:5 Normal)
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Still, you're not supposed to say bad things about dead people.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:36 PM | Darn, you're right.  I take (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Darn, you're right.  I take back all those things I said after Bin Laden was killed. 

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:42 PM | Surely there's some middle ground here (Score:4 Normal)
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.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:52 PM | Gray area causes wars, I (Score:-1 Normal)
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Gray area causes wars, I prefer to live in a world where everything is black and white, people are either good or evil, and all questions can be answered using "Yes" or "No".  Therefore, I cannot distinguish between Carter and Bin Laden. 

/s

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:42 PM | jeebus. (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Bring back the neg and the hammer.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:58 PM | Sarcasm. Perhaps it hasn't (Score:2 Normal)
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Sarcasm. Perhaps it hasn't made it up to Canada yet.

The swag is back. 

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February 17th, 2012 at 10:29 AM | @Butterfield (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Sarcasm? No, my stupid crap meter was exceeded by your posting.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:53 PM | You are an idiot (Score:2 Normal)
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/not s

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:46 PM | except that you're completely (Score:2 Informative)
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except that you're completely wrong.  most of the mets hated hernandez and loved carter.  he was known as a stand up kind of guy.  every 86 met is doing interviews right now saying what a great teammate he was. 

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/story/_/id/7583404/fans-mourn-hall-famer...

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:51 PM | Agree to disagree.  (Score:3 Normal)
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Agree to disagree.  http://stbonabaseball11.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/the-day-gary-carter-made-me-feel-worthless/

It's only one of many similar stories and links that can be found out there on the interwebs. 

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:01 PM | Nice link (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Nice link that was written by a nobody.

Keep the change ya filthy animal.

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:10 PM | So professional athletes (Score:2 Normal)
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So professional athletes shouldn't concern themselves with the treatment of "nobodies "? As long as they get along well with celebrities, that's all that matters to you?

The swag is back. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:57 PM | And (Score:1 Normal)
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  "By all accounts"?  Seems odd considering the sentiment that is coming from people that are far closer to Carter and to the world of baseball than you.  Check your references.  

Keep the change ya filthy animal.

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:36 PM | Hernandez/Carter (Score:2)
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Hernandez lost half his captaincy when Carter arrived and his manager recognized what he took to be superior leadership skills. There's more to their relationship than "Carter was a bad teammate."

I'm more familiar with the Montreal end of his career. He certainly wasn't the easy-going, modest, beloved teammate Raines or Dawson was, but I can't ever recall a word of criticism for how he went about his business on the field. He played hard, and he played hurt, and he was respected for it. If he enjoyed the attention, well, there was lot more attention to go around because he was there helping them win.

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:46 PM | He wasn't known as a great (Score:2 Normal)
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He wasn't known as a great guy? Read any set of reactions that have come out from former teammates today. There are stories of him holding up the team bus because he was signing so many autographs for fans. 

http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp

Go to the video with the Keith Hernandez interview (the third one) and tell me he wasn't liked by his teammates. I really hope you were trolling on this one. 

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February 17th, 2012 at 10:06 AM | Just because someone (Score:1)
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Just because someone supposedly said he was a 'bad teammate' doesn't actually make that accurate- you should make your own opinion about someone and not take on someone else's misguided view.

I had the pleasure of meeting Gary Carter and his family multiple times. He helped coach/support a local university baseball team when he had the time and his daughter coached softball for the same university. I have never been a Mets fan and never will but after meeting Gary - I became a Gary Carter fan.

My thoughts go to him and his family.

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | "Self-aggrandizing?" (Score:2 Normal)
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Carter had been fighting a very aggressive form of brain cancer since last May, and knew he didn't have a lot of time left.  I'm glad he had a few years to enjoy being in the Hall of Fame instead of it happening after he died, like it has with too many players.  

Denard excepted, there are two positions where it really helps to be cocky: QB and catcher.  It's probably part of what made him a Hall of Famer.  

Gary Carter died too young.  May he rest in peace.  And may his family find comfort in knowing that he got to enjoy a few years of being a Hall of Fame catcher.

Also, I think it's safe to say that the players on the Palm Beach Atlantic University baseball team don't see him as "self-aggrandizing," especially after he made it to opening day this year on the same day he found out he had more tumors and that his treatment hadn't worked.

 

 

 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:43 PM | even as a yankee fan i (Score:2 Normal)
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even as a yankee fan i admired gary carter.

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:50 PM | I always find the mourning of (Score:5 Normal)
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I always find the mourning of these celebrities to be a bit insincere. 

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:54 PM | You mean you didn't bust out (Score:5 Normal)
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You mean you didn't bust out in tears when Whitney Houston died?

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February 16th, 2012 at 7:59 PM | I don't get it. Yet here we (Score:1)
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I don't get it. Yet here we are today a week later with 15 minute blocks of coverage talking about how sauced Whitney Houston was over the past month. If only people could post "Meanwhile, in Iraq" memes over news coverage...

Go Blue!

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:12 PM | Old New York Newsday Commercial... (Score:3 Normal)
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...featuring Gary Carter. The man must have had a sense of humor about himself. He basically coached in some capacity until he could do so no longer, so he earned that "Kid" nickname with his love of the game. He was a huge advocate of the Reading Counts program in his adopted home of Palm Beach, I believe, and he did quite a bit of philanthropic work with kids for several causes.

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:14 PM | RIP (Score:3 Normal)
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My dad died at 55 so I can sympathize with his family. That is way too young to go.

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:15 PM | I am always conflicted with (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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deaths like this. Too bad for his family and so on, but I did have him #1 in my death pool, so 10 points for me!

 

The Blog, the Blog, the Blog!

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:21 PM | RIP Kid (Score:1)
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February 17th, 2012 at 9:15 AM | In retrospect... (Score:1)
French West Indian
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...those Mets uniforms with the thick stripe running all the way down the side look pretty good.

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February 17th, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Yes, they should bring them (Score:1)
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Yes, they should bring them back... pullover and all!  And yes, i'm very serious.  The mets should get rid of any black, as it is not an original color.  Dodger Blue + Giant Orange = Mets colors.

Touchdown Michigan!

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:44 PM | my memory of (Score:1)
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Gary Carter will always be in Game 6 of the 86 world series. 

that state south-east of Meechigan should be leveled and turned into a parking lot.

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:47 PM | Two outs in the bottom of the tenth of game 6 (Score:1)
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In the 1986 World Series Mets vs Boston Red Sox. Gary gets two strikes on him quickly, then strokes a single which started THE RALLY, ending with the dribble error thru Buckner's legs. NYers (and Red Sox fans) will never forget.

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:44 PM | RIP (Score:3 Normal)
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He was great with the Expos.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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February 16th, 2012 at 10:59 PM | Greatest Expo of all time (Score:1)
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R.I.P.   So sad.

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February 16th, 2012 at 11:08 PM | I voted for Raines (Score:2)
Yeoman
Joined: 06/08/2011
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but Carter was also a plausible choice. The only thing certain is that the internet got this wrong.

Poll: Pick the greatest Expo/National

 

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February 16th, 2012 at 8:55 PM | Wow! there certainly is (Score:2 Funny)
MGOReader
Joined: 07/05/2011
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Some polarizing views on Gary Carter! One things for certain, 57 is too young to go. That disease has taken so much from so many.

Personally I thought he was a bit of an egomaniac, but hey, when you are one of the best in the world at your position, I suppose that is maybe a bit normal, and for that matter part of the physical makeup of a guy like that.

Anyway, no ill will and sad for his family and friends.

RIP Gary Carter.

 

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:07 PM | Carter's final career hit, worth viewing. (Score:3 Funny)
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http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20086255&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_20086255&v=3

 

can't embed for some reason.

"There is not a scale available with which I can accurately measure how much I want you to shut the fuck up right now."

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:20 PM | As George Costanza would say... (Score:2 Funny)
Michiganguy19
Joined: 07/05/2008
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Come on down and meet the Mets...

'Cause I Bleed Blue...

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:21 PM | Much respect to the enemy (Score:2 Funny)
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Being a Yankee fan in NJ I was part of the minority in '86 when everybody and their brother jumped on the Mets bandwagon. I was in 7th grade and they wheeled the tv into our class and made us watch the parade to city hall. The only other Yankee fan and i looked at each other and  said "I can't believe we have to watch this shit." I hated the Mets. They were so cocky and took curtain calls after every friggin home run. Not the big moment ones. It was like all of them. But I have to say i hated them because they earned my hate.They were a great team. They were like rock stars. I hated them but i respected how great they played. RIP Gary Carter.

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February 16th, 2012 at 10:00 PM | GC & Mets Fan... (Score:0 Trolling)
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Huge GC & long time Mets fan.... it is a sad day for the sport of baseball.  Rest in peace Gary, we will miss you.  Thanks for that you did for the game of baseball. 

 

 

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February 16th, 2012 at 10:59 PM | Love Baseball (Score:1)
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Huge Reds fan here, but those Mets teams of the 80's were pretty kick ass and Carter was the glue. That team had more drug addicted and generally crazy players, than any team ever.

R.I.P. Mr. Carter (mad respect to you sir)

It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!

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