Question relating to the possible coaching change.

Submitted by ThadMattasagoblin on

If we fire Hoke, do we have to pay Nuss, Mattison, and all the position coaches buyouts if they aren't retained by the new coach?

BlueHills

November 4th, 2014 at 8:10 PM ^

While I don't see what Nuss has or hasn't done to get an interim HC job, one thing that didn't happen with Fickell's OSU team was the idea that it somehow screwed up recruiting.

They recruited very well, despite the scandal, despite Tressel being fired, and despite the interim coaching.

If it were to happen here, we'd probably still recruit pretty well.

befuggled

November 4th, 2014 at 9:24 PM ^

Tressel was fired long after signing day in 2011, and Meyer was hired early enough to save the 2012 recruiting class. The timing was similar for Michigan with Lloyd Carr, who became interim coach after signing day and became permanent coach at the end of November.

For Michigan, Hoke's struggles will likely hurt this year's class. So would promoting one of the assistants to an extended interim role, as it extends the uncertainty for a longer period. Recruiting for the next year is uncertain as well--unless the interim coach wins the job full time like Carr did.

The good news is that this year's class will be small anyway, and if Hackett or the new AD makes a good hire in a timely fashion it shouldn't be a problem..

Mr Miggle

November 4th, 2014 at 10:03 PM ^

Their 2012 class recruiting was mediocre by their standards until Meyer was hired. He got a couple of in-state players to switch their commitments, players that would have already been part of the class in any other year. Then he took full advantage of the meltdown at PSU. We don't rate to get any of those breaks and will take a hit with the current class.

samdrussBLUE

November 4th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^

A new coach should have the option of, and feel very comfortable with, releasing any/all of our current staff members.


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Rhino77

November 4th, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^

"If?"

 

He is gone. 

And what is this "we" talk? Do "we" pay out the coaches? No, the school does. My money stays with me towards my son's tuition and my bourbon habit. 

991GT3

November 4th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^

we would be doing the same thing he is doing. He has sources in the athletic department particularly in football. The access he receives helps him with his blog, magazine and radio show.

To want to protect these sources and keep them on the job serves his purpose. There is no doubt in my mind Sam wants the present Hoke regime to remain. He probably wants an extension for Hoke arguing Dantonio took seven years to get the program where it is today and Hoke ahould be given the same.

I am not criticizing for this. It makes sense for him to feel this way. A new regime would require him reestablishing department contacts and there are some coaches who resist any intrusion.

AmishRule

November 4th, 2014 at 9:14 PM ^

Really? Purposely damage your audience relationship and support a sinking ship. I don't think Sam will have a problem with access to any new coaching group. Recruiting is the life blood and that's Sam's expertise -- coaches will keep anybody and everybody associated with recruiting nearby.

AmishRule

November 4th, 2014 at 9:16 PM ^

Really? Purposely damage your audience relationship and support a sinking ship. I don't think Sam will have a problem with access to any new coaching group. Recruiting is the life blood and that's Sam's expertise -- coaches will keep anybody and everybody associated with recruiting nearby. Sorry for the double.

Mr Miggle

November 4th, 2014 at 10:10 PM ^

In fact, he made it very clear a few weeks ago that he shouldn't be. After Brandon got fired he's been warning people that he might be. Only, I would say, because he's done a horrible job of interpreting Schlissel's remarks. Whether anyone is feeding him that interpretation is pure speculation.