Curious who the 10 players are that might possibly leave early. I see Heyward, Gibson, and Chekwa all leaving early, but other than that I don't see anyone else who would leave early.
Question about O$U
he has as many players as want to look into their possible draft positions and then any that have a good shot he "encourages" them to go. The others he convinces to stick for another year. More than likely only 4 or 5 will actually declare.
Kind of a strange practice by Tressel. There always seem to be a lot of OSU players who are taken high in the NFL draft and you never hear about them again.
I am definitely not complaining though.
The whole key to the nfl is 1) getting drafted high, and then 2) hoping you excel and get a big pay day when you become a free agent.
If you've got a good chance of getting drafted high and getting a nice pay day, why shouldn't they take it? Look at Sam Bradford, the guy lost tons of money by coming back.
Out of curiousity, what players are you thinking of from OSU that went high in the draft and you have never heard from again?
Yeah I hear about Ted Ginn all the time, he's awesome.
Isn't he a starting wr for the dolphins?
ginn is pretty bad for the fins regardless if he's starting. troy smith hasnt done a damn thing. same with gholston. aj hawk starts for the packers and is OK. really, the only pro that OSU has to hang their hats on in the past few years is santonio holmes.
Believe me--I "hear" about Ted Ginn all the time. It's usually in the following context:
"Fucking Ted Ginn dropped another crossing route"
"Fucking Ted Ginn ran out of bounds on another kickoff return"
"Fucking Ted Ginn avoids contact like Sparty avoids the law"
This is like "Bucky Fucking Dent" in reverse, because Ginn is reviled by his own fans, while Dent was reviled by his rival's fans and, of course, Don Zimmer. From baseballalmanac.com:
"The mother of all such moments will always remain what happened on October 2, 1978. "When I hit the ball," Bucky Dent recalled, "I knew that I had hit it high enough to hit the wall. But there were shadows on the net behind the wall and I didn't see the ball land there. I didn't know I had hit a homer until I saw the umpire at first signaling home run with his hand. I couldn't believe it."
Neither could the Red Sox. Don Zimmer, then Boston's skipper, changed the Yankee shortstop's name to "Bucky Fucking Dent." Red Sox fans had even more salty phrases."
I was thinking of Ashton Youboty in particular. I know there have been others who were told they were first rounders and ended up going later than expected.
He has been stellar in his rookie season for the Rams, although, he is on the Rams so it doesnt mean as much.
Also, I really doubt Stoops was pushing for Bradford to go pro after last year.
Not to be picky, but Sam Bradford is set for life regardless of what happens thanks to his insurance policy. It is a bummer to lose out on potentially being the first pick, but if he ruins his comfortable financial situation (which will get better with any NFL job anyway) then it's most likely going to be his own fault. I feel worse for those who are injured and couldn't afford the policy to begin with.
How about AJ Hawk, he was a 1st rounder and has been on Special teams for 3 years, or B. Carpenter has been ok but underperforms for Dallas. He wasn't drafted high, but Troy Smith has done nothing since winning the Heisman.
None of them left early.
at LB for the packers. He's their 2nd leading tackler this year.
AJ Hawk is the starting MLB for the Packers.
It's hard to be a standout on defense when your playing in the same galaxy as WOODSON!
Gholston has done pretty close to nothing since being drafted quite high by the Jets.
I knew he was having an underwhelming year but I didn't realize it was actually that bad. Maybe opposing players see those arms and run away from him in fear, thus the lack of tackles?
He was a guy that more than a few people quietly projected to be a bust, on account of the fact that there were some - **cough**steroid use**cough** - questions about him when he was at OSU.
I live in the NY area and am a Giant fan so follow the Jets only marginally, but was surprised to hear a radio discussion recently in which he was labeled as a total bust. I did not realize it had been that bad. For where he was drafted that is a bust of pretty large proportions.
...Junior will leave, and that's Thaddeus Gibson. Cam Heyward will stay in order to chase a MNC (and because he loves being a college kid, and because as the late "Ironhead"'s son he's probably not under any sort of familial financial pressure), and Chimdi Chekwa will stay because he's not that good yet.
1329 is correct that it has always been Tressel's practice to "encourage" any Junior/Redshirt Soph that wants to, to go ahead and file the paperwork that lets them know where they might expect to be drafted.
It's not the case, however, that Tress "encourages" "any that have a good shot" to go pro - that's more of a player-by-player thing. If that WERE the case, then he would have encouraged Malcolm Jenkins to go, which he didn't, and Brian Hartline to stay, which he didn't (as far as we know).
Again: Gibson will be the only early entry. You heard it here first.
If there are indeed ten players looking into leaving, I'd be surprised if nine were to end up staying. This year, being (in all likelihood) the last uncapped year for rookies in the NFL, should see a much larger-than-usual group of early entries.
I do admire Tressel's policy regarding his players and the NFL. He seems to be fair, wanting them to know where they will probably go, and discussing the pros and cons with them. I can't imagine him doing it without a payoff of some kind, though; I am guessing that he uses it as part of his recruiting pitch. I would also imagine that it gets the fringe draftees to return to his team for another year.
...then: Gibson, Heyward, Chekwa, Boren, Homan, Rolle, Hines, Saine, Sanzenbacher and Browning.
Oh, it's the annual "please let as many OSU guys declare as possible" time, since Michigan can't match OSU in talent, we might as well hope that as many as possible of their players leave so we can close the gap just a little bit more. One day I hope we never have to have these discussions anymore.
It wasn't that at all. My post was more about "I don't see anyone that really scares me outside of Pryor on the entire 2 deep". Therefore, who are these "10 guys that might declare early"? Either way O$U's defense will not be as good as it was this year, and that offense still has plenty of question marks. Remember a lot of teams scored a lot of points against Oregon.
IMHO you guys are missing the point(or at least part of the point) if OSU always gets kids to high draft picks, juniors or seniors, regardless of what they actually do in the NFL. it is a huge recruiting factor for kids who look at an education as secondary thing when going to a college. kids just want to go to the NFL and colleges that do that on a regular basis have a better shot at commitments.
I want to see some NFL linemen make him their bitch.