There has been discussion on the board about how Michigan will likely not take a WR this year. This is most likely to the amount we already have on the roster. That got me thinking about Justice Hayes, however. i believe he was originally recruited as an athlete and was looked at as a slot type of player. In fact, there is some belief he would actually be more suited for this role. Now, with the seeming impending commitment of another RB more suited to this offense, is Justice still considered an athlete by this coaching staff? I know Borges likes to use 2 back sets so they may want more rb's, but maybe the staff look at hayes as a WR recruit. Does anyone know what they are planning on using Hayes for?
Question about Justice Hayes
The staff told him they want him to play RB.
thats what i thought
Actually I heard they recruited him as the next fred jackson. He will play four years and then when hes done he will join fred on the recruiting trail for many years to come.
"Fred Jackson is like a mix between Bear Bryant, Optimus Prime, and the original Bone Thugs but with more style" -Justice Hayes
the dreaded double post... Fail
He argueably wasn't even the best RB on his HS team?
I don't disagree, but you'd have to ask Hoke/Borges that question.
If that's really what you think, then why should we even offer him a scholarship?
Cadillac Williams wasn't even the best RB on his college team, but he still went 5th overall in the NFL draft..........
a PRO style RB, so that makes sense.
Gotta be a RB. No way Hoke wants a guy under 6 feet tall to be a WR.
I don't think Hoke could stomach another Desmond Howard. There is no way that type of player fits in a pro-style offense.
Desmond wasn't recruited as a WR.
True. He was recruited as a running back.
but finding the first Desmond Howard was pretty difficult. He's more the exception than the rule.
Theres another exception. Its not like this is unique to Michigan. There are plenty of under 6' WR in the NFL and Martavious Odoms is way under that and an effective player.
I realize Michigan will prefer to recruit prototypical tall and fast WR, but there's no reason to rule out smaller players.
The recruiting rep on Hayes that he was a much better receiver than runner. We'll see where he ends up, but its early to rule anything out.
can he kick?
Gibbons was an AAA kicker, too. That obviously hasn't worked out too well so far.
True but Hoke has been watching this kid kick without a tee for two years.
I get the feeling the previous coaching staff didn't do their homework well enough on Gibbons. But even if they did, there's always a big unknown with kickers. It's one thing to kick off a tee in front of paltry crowds on Friday night, and quite another thing to try and kick a game-winning field goal in front of 100,000 in a nationally televised game.
Should be a RB. Him and Rawls would be a good duo.
Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown? Yes, please.
Are you asking if Hayes will be the Recruiting Coordinator for Head Coach Mike Hart in 2035?
Yes. He will.
Can't wait to hear those Mike Hart HC press conferences.
Big Brother > Little Brother.
hayes is making it his mission in 2029 to have the first recruiting class to land all top 10 players on rivals, scout, and espn. How is he doing this you may ask. Hes going to knock up 10 women and train all of his future children into the greatest athletes anyone has ever seen and then recruit them to michigan. JUSTICE HAYES WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MICHIGAN!
Antonio Cromartie is doing a hell of a job for Florida State
Littlen known fact: The Portland Trialblazers entire roster are all Shawn Kemp's sons. True story.
all four of his three year olds (no multiples) will commit there in 15 years.
Hard Knocks is a great mini-series. Cromartie had like 11 kids from 10 different women.
Hard knocks is great. They should use that clip of cromartie talking about his kids as what not to do when you are in school or the Pro's.
this will make me the happiest person on earth
He recruited the Michigan Robot.
In the past, Borges running backs have functioned a lot like slot receivers though (short passes in space) so I not sure if there is a big difference other than him taking some through the tackles.
None of our guys did particularly well catching the ball out of the backfield. Coaches hinted at this in the Fall, then we didn't see many pass plays to the RBs. When Shaw dropped that wide open swing/screen against Iowa (I think), RB passes were pretty much dead. If Hayes can catch out of the backfield, he can play early
Maybe they see Justice as a screen specialist like Chris Perry.
should join the staff after his dad retires, hes already coached a heisman winner and a running back that shattered his records
I regularly see comments on here that seem to imply that either Brady Hoke or Al Borges prefer a big back (e.g., comments suggesting that Stephen Hopkins will be our leading rusher next year, or, as the OP mentioned, that Thomas Rawls is better suited for this offense).
Neither Hoke nor Borges, however, have a pronounced history of using large backs as the primary rushing threat. Let's look back a few years at the leading rusher from each coach's team:
San Diego State:
2010 - 5'10 / 175
2009 - 5'11 / 210
2008 - 5'6 / 201
2007 - 5'8 / 188
2006 - 5'7 / 189
2005 - 5'10 / 225
2004 - 5'11 / 190
2007 - 5'11 / 218
2006 - 5'11 / 218
2005 - 5'11 / 200
2004 - 5'11 / 204
Of the 11 seasons available for analysis, 4 featured backs in the Mike Cox, Stephen Hopkins, and Thomas Rawls mold. An equal number featured backs in the Justice Hayes, Vincent Smith, and Michael Shaw mold. The final three seasons employed a Fitgerald Toussaint-like back.
Can we please stop with the omgbowlingballupthegut assumptions about our future offense?
my statement had more to do with the belief that Rawls is believed to be a better RB than Hayes, but i get your point completely. Clearly this staff can work with many types of rb's.
Thanks, I'm glad someone pointed this out. SDSU's go-to back last year was just a little guy in Ronnie Hillman. He ended up being named MWC Frosh of the Year.
I think we'll still be in running back-by-committee this year unless someone stands out in real game action.
but V smith should be in his own category. Shaw is 6'1" and Hayes is 5'10" while Smith is 5'6". They are not in the same class as far as size is concerned, just sayin'.
Thanks for looking up that information.
still would love to see the big back, Stephen Hopkins be starting and running in between the tackles.
Run the ball. I just want him to keep recruiting. Let justice be served.
What does this "running back better suited to the offense" look like? I'm confused by this upon looking at 2010 SDSU.
Given JH's performance thus far, as a recruiter and fan, let it be decreed that you are henceforward forbidden from questioning the talents or potential of the Supreme Justice.
They are planning on using Hayes in the "120 yd a game avg. RB" postion previously held by on Mike Hart who will lead us to guranteed victories over little brother and ultimately POSU!
And additionaly as the permanent host of recruits..... Well, him, Ricardo and Denard
I wonder if he will be used in KR/PR, as some of the recruiting services have indicated he might. Odoms did a damn good job in the Gator Bowl considering he hadn't really handled that job since 2008 when he still had fumble-itus. Dileo showed flashes, although as someone pointed out he/Gallon/TRob might be the most likely to transfer to a system more suited to their skill sets.
Either way, Justice easily has the most entertaining twitter of any of the recruits.
Dileo was recruited with the understanding that Rich Rodriguez needed someone to return punts. Playing receiver is the icing on the cake for Dileo. But if Hoke wants him to stick around to be a KR/PR, I don't see Dileo wanting to transfer. His role wouldn't really change.