Is the QB-C exchange hurting the run game? (Also Sunday Snowflakes)
I understand we don't have the greatest O-line, but I have been noticing something over the past few weeks. It seems like when Gardner is under center, the QB-C exchange is 1/2 second slower than what it should be. The exchange is ackward looking, to the point it looks like Gardner is fumbling the ball every play. That 1/2 second can make a big differance, and it seems like every run play, the D-line is penatrating the backfield before Gardner hands the ball off. Sorry if this has been talked about before, but I wanted to see if anyone else has noticed this.
SLIGHT MOD EDIT: We shall also make this the Sunday Snowflakes Thread as well, if this is alright with everyone. - LSA
October 20th, 2013 at 12:49 PM ^
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:00 PM ^
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:02 PM ^
Rice milk. Pussy.
October 20th, 2013 at 4:53 PM ^
Now that made me LOL.
October 21st, 2013 at 11:31 AM ^
evolution
October 20th, 2013 at 12:49 PM ^
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:58 PM ^
I hope they work on this in the next two weeks, MSU damn sure will.
October 20th, 2013 at 12:54 PM ^
that Miller started out as center?
Gotta take the good with the bad, I suppose.
October 20th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
Kyle Bosch may be the savior we have long sought
October 20th, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^
there was one play in particular--a counter play out of shotgun or pistol--that had a huge hole that fitz couldn't get to because the snap was bad and he got the ball too late.
On all of our power runs out of I, it seemed like the line was moving well before gardner could cleanly get the snap. All of those little things hurt the already-shoddy run game for sure
October 20th, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^
I noticed at least two occasions on which I thought Michigan was going to get called for a false start because the line was moving before the center appeared to move the ball.
October 20th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^
i don't really know the technical rules behind those plays
October 20th, 2013 at 1:39 PM ^
I'm not sure if they should have been called or not. If the linemen are moving before the ball does, then yes. That's what it looked like to me. There's a chance that the rest of the players were just slow off the ball, but that's rare.
October 20th, 2013 at 3:19 PM ^
October 20th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^
I also noticed that it didn't seem like Gardner started dropping back until the rest of the OL had taken it's first step and so he was late to get the ball to the RB.
October 20th, 2013 at 1:10 PM ^
There has been a fumbled snap each of the last three weeks with Glasgow in there. As far as I remember, there were zero botched snaps in all of 2012 and zero with Jack Miller at center earlier this year. The last time we had a problem with a snap before Minnesota was the Sugar Bowl against Virginia Tech when Rocko Khoury was inserted at the last minute.
October 20th, 2013 at 1:41 PM ^
I can't imagine there were no botched snaps all of last season. Even teams that operate under center 100% of the center will have a few per year.
October 20th, 2013 at 2:18 PM ^
I really don't think there were. Anyone can feel free to prove me wrong, but that was constantly in the back of the mind because I was curious why Mealer was playing center, Barnum was at guard, Khoury was gone, etc. I was constantly looking for bad snaps, and I just don't remember seeing any.
October 20th, 2013 at 9:40 PM ^
October 20th, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^
If the Oline were any good though, it wouldn't matter if we lost a half second on the snap because the line of scrimmage would actually be moving in the right direction. I doubt it makes a difference when Gardner hands the ball off at this point. It would just get us from -3 on the play to -2. Looked better yesterday obviously. Bosch for prez.
October 20th, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
October 20th, 2013 at 1:32 PM ^
I'm hoping they get it worked out soon. There were at least two different plays that probably should have been flagged due to late snaps.
October 20th, 2013 at 1:55 PM ^
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:59 PM ^
This is one of the reasons why they were hesitant to replace Jack Miller. When they finally did, I knew this was going to be the case. You're trading off a handful of bad snaps per game vs. a whole game's worth of poor blocking in the middle of the line. Choose your poison.
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