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Purdue pulls offer for injured player, is banned

Does Tiller want to advise the world on exactly what his definition of snake oil is? WR AJ King had his scholarship offer from Purdue pulled b/c of the type of surgery he had to repair his knee (used cadaver ilo own tendon). His high school coach has righteously and awesomely banned Purdue from their school.  Before you begin with the excuses, read the coach's comments.

Magnus I read on TTB that you're going to a conference where Hope will speak. You don't have to beat his ass, but a question on this issue wouldn't be out of bounds.

http://blogs.indystar.com/purdue/2011/01/31/purdue-pulls-offer-from-football-recruit/

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January 31st, 2011 at 5:59 PM | Danny Hope sucks so hard that (Score:1)
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Danny Hope sucks so hard that he has become a parody of sucking

I can't even hate him anymore

He is the Criss Angel of college football

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:11 PM | It is bullcrap but.... (Score:1)
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Although I wasn't a D1 recruit, I had f-ed up knees and lost my HS sophomore season to injury. I played injury free as a junior and senior but the schools that offered me to play all demanded to see my MRI and doctors reports and, after looking at them conditioned my offers on the fact that I had to have knee surgery (which I didn't do after the initial injury because the doctor said if I rested it, it would at least be OK by spring versus surgery which could knock me out further) and then prove to the team physician they were strong enough to play football on. 

I guess the way Coach Hope did it as it was described was B.S. BUT the schools can't take someone who isn't in physical condition to play. It opens them up to liability.

 

Danny Hope is still a douchebag though!

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:39 PM | "BUT the schools can't take (Score:1)
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"BUT the schools can't take someone who isn't in physical condition to play"

That's an excuse, it's fine to pull a scholly when a player is still looking around, but once they've committed pulling it is scummy. Besides Purdue only has 14 committments I highly doubt they need to drop him in order to make room. This is etremely sleazy.

Besides didn't Rodriguez let Elliot Mealer keep his scholly even if he couldn't play anymore... thank goodness it didn't come to that but the point is that Elliot's injury was pretty dang bad and he got to keep his scholarship, why can't King keep his? He doesn't have to play football just because he has a scholarship.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:42 PM | I thought (Score:1)
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I thought the one who was nearly crippled in the car accident was the younger brother Brock. Elliott is still on the team as a redshirt soph.


They also have a limited amount of scholarships.

 

Its sleazy. Don't get me wrong. But I still get it on some level and it happens a lot if the injury is the kind of thing that is career threatening which this is.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:50 PM | Brock is older, and yes he was nearly crippled... (Score:1)
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Elliot tore his shoulder really bad trying to get Brock out of the car. Rodriguez told Elliot he could keep his scholarship even if he never played football again, which aparently was a concern at the time. That's why he's a RS soph. he redshirted that first year while recovering from surgery.

I know they have a scholarship limit, but with 14 commitments right now they don't look like their going to hit the ceiling... maybe they are I don't know, but that doesn't really excuse it

EDIT: they only have a few left (http://www.hammerandrails.com/2010/12/20/1887061/purdue-football-recruit...).

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:51 PM | Elliott was injured (Score:1)
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Trying to help his older brother Brock out of the wrecked car. Brock was stuck in the car and paralyzed and Elliott tore up his shoulder in the process. RR said he would honor Elliott's scholarship even if he never played a down.

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February 1st, 2011 at 8:29 AM | RR did that because (Score:1)
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he hates families and atmospheres.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:23 PM | Medical scholarships are (Score:1)
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Medical scholarships are different than playing scholarships and don't count against the 85 limit.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:43 PM | ok... (Score:1)
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and King couldn't have been given one because..?

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:28 PM | I think Hope is pretty much (Score:1)
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I think Hope is pretty much the #1 douchiest Big 10 coach, but how do the rest shake out? 

Here's my top 3:

1. Hope (this and the "let me introduce you to my player" bush league from last season)

2. Bret Beilema (let's run up the score on everyone!) 

3. Dantonio (it's like he has a permanent smirk on his face)

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:03 PM | This.. (Score:1)
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Is just a huge mess. 
I get it, Hope is in a heap of trouble for the APAHG (Angry Purdue ACL Hating God) season that hejust had, and his job is on the line etc.

THat being said, seems like you can't pull the offer for a kid after he commits.

 

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:03 PM | So (Score:1)
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Danny Hope is snake oiling himself?

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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January 31st, 2011 at 8:13 PM | I just think he is the snake. (Score:1)
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I just think he is the snake.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:04 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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That doesn't even make sense. I've had more than one such surgery, and the cadaver usually means a stronger joint and faster healing. At least that us why my surgeon told me, and considering he was the team orthopedic surgeon for the Red Wings and Pistons, I tens to trust him in such matters.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:09 PM | For sure it is faster healing time (Score:1)
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Because the alternative is to take part of ones own hamstring to serve as the ACL. This is the surgery I had and this way the ACL area and the hamstring must both heal instead of just the one.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:52 PM | My ACL repair was with part (Score:1)
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My ACL repair was with part of my patellar tendon from the same knee.

Same issue - 2 sites, longer healing time.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:09 PM | wow. (Score:1)
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Karma is a bitch Danny Hope.

Edit: I also hope that Magnus has every opportunity to beat his ass.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:08 PM | Karma if you are listening, (Score:1)
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Karma if you are listening, please blow out Danny Hope's knee so he has to have the same surgery performed. Thanks.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:09 PM | That's awful, just awful. I (Score:1)
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That's awful, just awful. I remember when Hope felt all high and mighty throwing the kid that RR got suspended in RRs face. What a nice guy.

Oh-oh oh-oh oh-oh Here comes the ban hammer.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:10 PM | Is anyone surprised Danny (Score:1)
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Is anyone surprised Danny Hope would do this? He's at the same level as Bielema except Bielema has, you know, won games.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:10 PM | poor kid (Score:1)
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poor kid

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:25 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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It really shouldn't be a surprise. Hope is douche. Seriously, that was actually him in the 04 election episode of South Park, and also when he was nominated for the biggest douche in the universe award. He likes to portray himself.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:17 PM | Good to see that (Score:1)
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Good to see that the kid at least has some other descent offers.  I'm sure he'll land on his feet but this is a pretty classless move by Hope.  Would like to see King go to another Big Ten school just so he could  meet Hope at midfield after a beat down to thank him for pulling his scholly.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:19 PM | For the record, Hammer and (Score:1)
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For the record, Hammer and Rails - and most of the commenters - are anywhere from disappointed to disgusted at this action.  

 

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:23 PM | Whether it's ignoring it or justifying it (Score:1)
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Most fans will support their coach and defend them. Unless they do something like stab a bunch of babies most fans will try to find a way to justify whatever their team does... or at least ignore it.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:29 PM | The Purdue fans are unhappy (Score:1)
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The Purdue fans are unhappy about it, though. The ones on that link are, at least.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:37 PM | I read that wrong (Score:1)
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But that's good, at least the Purdue fans aren't excusing this

Although I still think most people are willing to look the other way, I garauntee you had this happened in the SEC they'd all be trying to sweep this under the rug.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:22 PM | I'm sure there is more to the (Score:1)
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I'm sure there is more to the story than the 2 paragraphs used in the article, but unless the kid didn't qualify academically or a host of doctors said "you will never play again on that knee", Purdue should have honored the scholarship offer at least the first year and seen what they had with him.  I'm going to be blind to the realities of the big-time college football business, but Purdue doesn't have a very impressive class and I'd think you rather take a chance on a kid who comes from a good HS team than sour that relationship because some of your current players were also recovering.  

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:34 PM | The more I hear about Danny (Score:1)
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The more I hear about Danny Hope the more I realize he is a douche in the Glen Beck sense of the word.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:34 PM | You broke MgoBlog rule number (Score:1)
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You broke MgoBlog rule number 2.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:35 PM | I feel really bad for the (Score:1)
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I feel really bad for the kid, especially since it happened just one month from signing day. I must say I'm not surprised at all based on Hope's past behavior.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:44 PM | sidenote (Score:1)
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Hey you're almost out of bolivia

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:04 PM | -6 now. A few more? (Score:1)
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-6 now. A few more?

C'mon guise, at least lets get him into Columbia or something.

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:41 PM | Interesting comment from one of the Purdue fans (Score:1)
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"Consider this another nail in the coffin for Hope."

I did not realize he was already on thin ice

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Brilliant!

"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine" - K

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:14 PM | Really? You thought Purdue (Score:1)
WolvinLA2
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Really? You thought Purdue won enough the last couple years to keep Hope's job safe?

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:34 PM | No but I also don't think (Score:1)
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Purdue can afford to start acting like Minnesota and start firing every coach who doesn't win the Big Ten by year two

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:47 PM | This is why nobody likes (Score:1)
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This is why nobody likes dirty, stinky Purdue.

I would disappointed in my school if they did this type of thing. It just isn't the Michigan way. 

Pronounced Ahh-Neh-Muh

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January 31st, 2011 at 6:52 PM | In an ideal world, Michigan (Score:1)
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In an ideal world, Michigan would pick up this kid's scholarship, and then Bellomy and King would romp all over a Danny Hope-less Purdue team en route to a 2014 MNC.

 

I'm gonna pretend that's what did happen no matter what.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:10 PM | Kovacs? (Score:1)
Steve in PA
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Didn't we do something similar with him?  Wasn't he offered, but was pulled becasue of knee surgery and had to walkon?

 

 

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:52 PM | I don't think so (Score:1)
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IIRC, Kovacs made the team as a walk-on and then had to have knee surgery so he missed a season and had to try out again. 

" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."

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January 31st, 2011 at 8:59 PM | Thanks (Score:1)
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I knew there was a knee surgery and having to try out again.  Couldn't remember exactly everything.

 

 

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January 31st, 2011 at 8:55 PM | no division 1 schools offered Kovacs (Score:1)
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Even his local school, (Toledo), only offered him as a preferred walk-on. That was before his knee problems.

Eating is murder.

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January 31st, 2011 at 7:13 PM | Here's wha tthe coach (Score:1)
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Here's wha tthe coach said:

“They flew A.J. up there to Purdue, everybody wowed him, told him they loved him and all that,” Callahan said. “Then, after he came home, they pulled him, without ever talking to our doctors, without ever talking to our trainers.

“It’s completely unprofessional. In all my years as a coach, I’ve never, ever have seen something done to a kid like this.”

Dang, that is cold.

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February 1st, 2011 at 1:58 AM | This is a sad day for the (Score:1)
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This is a sad day for the conference.  I feel badly for this kid and the situation that's developed around him.  I hope he manages to overcome this setback and gets the opportunity to pursue his dreams at a different school.

Oh yeah, fuck Danny Hope.  I want to see a traditional 3-TD win at the Big House this year.  10-29-11.  Marking it on my calendar.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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February 1st, 2011 at 10:40 AM | 3TDs? (Score:1)
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I'm going with Michigan - 45, Purdue - 6. Afterwards Brady Hoke brings Jordan Kovacs (who had two INTs, 11Tkls, 3Tfls, and a sack) to the handshake and explains to Hope why you don't give up on someone because they injured their knee.

A.J. King is watching from his dorm at Minnesota, Iowa, FIU, or wherever and starts singing:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/oGaFPJmMNbw

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