Fitz looked kind of injured coming off the field after that knee
Purdue: the Good, the Bad(ish), the Ugly and the Gratifying
2. Putting Gardner in for random plays when the game was still in question. I know others feel differently, and I’m open to being convinced that I’m wrong, but I just don’t get it. Yes, he’s immensely talented, and will eventually make an excellent starting QB, but Denard is currently our best QB and the engine that makes our offense go. The INT play seemed particuarly odd, given Denard's 60-yard completion. I felt better about Borges putting Gardner in short-yardage situations (when his size can be impactful) and in garbage time (when he can get experience). It upset me early on when the score was close, but when all was said and done, it wasn’t all that consequential, and he had some good plays later.
This is a much more appropriate place for this sort of comment.
mixing up the playcalling and using different looks on offense. Puting Devin in with Denard might not yeild a big gain, but he's missing that that doesn't necessarily mean the play wasn't successful. The different looks we give other teams help keep their defenses honest and play a big part in setting up the next plays.
I think the biggest problem is it ruins the momentum and rhytym the quarterback is trying to get into. Right after that 60 yard pass you go and put in Devin and that was really awkward.
A much more appropriate way to make a point. I understand where you're coming from, and can see the sense in what your ultimate point is, I just found the way you went about making it overly snide and, frankly, a bit tiresome.
It's all good when there's some level of decorum, though.
There are good ways to make this argument, this thread/the MGoBlog way, and bad ways to make this argument, your other thread/the MLive way. When you start a thread midgame, with excessive caps and excessive exclamation points, you're going to get hammered. This is obvious due to the fact that your other thread turned into a shit show and received 60 negs (some of which is due to me), and this thread was relatively well received.
You blow any sense of credibility you may have built up when you post the knee-jerk, all caps, excessive exclamation point thread. Those will never be well received and nobody is going to take your argument seriously, regardless of how valid it may or may not be.
If my responses and those of the others in the other thread make even one poster hesitant to post a similar knee jerk reaction next week. I'd consider it a success.
By challenging it in a well-mannered, measured way, but instead you flamebaited with overly personal schoolyard crap. In all honesty, if that's the standard you want mgoblog to live up to, then you might want to shoot a little higher. This is supposed to be a virtual representation of Ann Arbor, not East Lansing.
I apologize if I hurt your feelings, but you have to deal with those posts with fury. Nine times out of ten the OPs don't respond or react to someone calmly telling them that their post was poorly composed and/or poorly timed. You appear to have been an exception, as you even thought enough to edit your OP.
An OP in all caps with multiple exclamation points is exactly the kind of post that is a virtual representation of East Lansing. If you had included some emoticons, it would have been a perfect fit.
Sidenote: I didn't downvote any of your posts in that thread, other than the OP, and I obviously didn't upvote any of my own posts. Apparently there is some MGoBlog approval for the methods to my madness.
I was satisfied with the performance. Did anyone catch the handshake at the end? Did it seem a lil testy between Hoke and Danny Hope to anyone else?
Testy? Perish the thought.
I dislike Hope as much as the next guy, but you were reading way too much into that handshake.. Look pretty standard to me...
When I see Danny Hope, I think little testes.
There was a bit more substance to it than I'm used to seeing. Hoke said a few things and Hope seemed slightly defensive.
humble pie. Didn't seem like he was upset by the encounter with Hoke itself, though.
I half wonder if some of those Gardner plays that aren't D.Robb jet sweeps are so the coaches can get a change to set up a play with Denard on the sidelines. Thus far Borges seems much more of an active sideline coach instead of a call a variable play and let the QB wing it like RR.
Except that Borges is in the press box...
The Ugly #2:
Your bitchy, over-reactive thread.
A douche who is right.
You can add not punching it in for touchdowns on two separate drives from the 1 yard line, to the Bad.
I agree. We seem to have had this problem all year. We don't seem to be able to just over power teams in these situations, but it looks like a sneak or run to the sideline is there.
on the one yard line. I hate this play. If you want to play power put in McColgan and let him lead Fitz in. It's not like everyone in the stadium doesn't know what's coming as we have only tried one other play out of this formation and I'd like to forget it.
Was pretty good today. Was taking up two linemen every time he was in, and he got that nice pass tip when the game wasn't totally put away yet.
Yes, Mr. Campbell did well it seems today.
I finished writing the post.
to look at his playcalling from game to game to see how he mixes it up from team to team. You get the feeling that some of todays playcalling was more for the benefit of Iowa scouting us than to run over Purdue. I can imagine him not trying some of the things he did today home against Purdue that would be more of a gamble next week @ Iowa.
The O-line's health will be key down the stretch..... and we don't have any gimme games left on the schedule. Here's to hoping for fast recoveries for all of them.
Frustrate me. Stop trying to be fancy, stop running out of center, stop the bootlegs, just run the ball out of the shotgun.
Gotta love armchair coaches.
Agreed. Keep it simple.
All our future opponents' DCs
We had a few runs from center that worked well. I think it is a good change-up as long as he doesn't call it too much.
First thing tho..."Winning a conference game against someone other than 2011 Minnesota in convincing fashion. The last time that happened was against an actually pretty good 2008 version of Minnesota" ---- I'm pretty sure the win AT Northwestern earlier this year was also pretty convincing.
Next...regarding Devin...the onlyplace I didn't like seeing him in the game was one play after Denard had gotten a huge completion...which was the Devin INT. Other than that, I like the options that Michigan has on offense with Devin at QB and Denard on the WR jet sweep. The Fitz TD screen was a great play call.
There was some play calling that I absolutely hated...in general, Borges tends to go into "pass pass pass" mode all too often, and with a guy like Denard that makes no sense. But it's all part of growing pains, and really it's only a minor-ish concern out of a solid 36-14 victory.
Loved how we got away from that in the second half. Denard threw one pass and Devin threw another but that was it after the break. Really allowed the line and the backs to get into a rhythm
and you saw Fitz, Shaw, and Denard break off some nice long gains. Would love to see us force teams to defend the run like that and then just every once in a while hit them over the top to keep things honest.
admittedly a small observation...
There have been multiple instances where this has been a problem for other teams in terms of celebration and ball security "prior" to scoring.
It is good practice and coaching to hand off the ball to the nearest official after they signal TD. Hopefully that doesn't cause an issue at some point.
A W is a W...especially in light of the Huskers win.
Nits will be picked.
...than zits being picked.
but I agree with you. This was something I really liked about the last 3 years--we always got the ball to the ref after a touchdown. I don't worry ball security or penalties, I just always liked that we looked like the disciplined team that was used to being there.
Quite happy to kick Danny Hope's ass. I'd imagine the post-game handshake was Brady Hoke saying good game, Danny Hope not keeping it together and eventually saying "suck it" or something equally as juvenile, with Brady Hoke retorting something about the scoreboard and we'll see you next year.
God this one felt good.
not enough points to post in a new thread. but thought the article was interesting considering the tremendous job Hoke has done in his first year and coming off a big needed win off a lost. Listen to the vid as well and Herb's story on Stoops and similarities we hear with Hoke.
Really nice to get snaps for guys like Ash, Clark, Beyer, Jones, Washington, etc., especially against a Big Ten offense with its starters still in the game running a two minute offense. Next year's defense is going to have a ton of depth/experience.
Clark looks like he's going to be a player, and beyer too. Both scream althetic to me. They just look the part. We're just not going to be deep up front inside. Rotation of BWC, Q, and Ash+ ???? (wilkins, rock, Pipkins?) probably won't be a strength, but we should be solid on the ends, improved at LB, and both solid and deep in the secondary. Probably not dominant but should be solid.
Mike Martin, and I'm paraphrasing, speaking about Mattison, "he's proud of us, he's got a big smile on his face, but he will look at the film and be bitching tomorrow, but it's alright."
Seriously, people are bitching about the play calling and putting DG in for a few snaps? What I see is an aggressive team on both sides of the ball, a team that is trying to get its play-makers on the field, a team that is trying not to just win but develop its weapons.
It means we see a team capable of perfection, and we're trying to hold them to it. The way it ought to be.
for the final stretch.
DRob 13 carries. M wins 36-14.
I'd say that turned out pretty well.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH! We want 15 yards per carry and 20 yards per attempt. Punting is for quitters!
I found myself in the same trap, bitching when when we were winning comfortably. The short yardarge plays were frustrating, but it's not like the other guys don't have pads on too. In total, the O made many many more plays than not. As fans, we seem to remember the nots much more vividly.
We are not tied with NU and MSU. Even if Michigan wins out, if State also wins out they go to the Big Ten Championship. If Nebraska beats us and wins the rest of their games, they go to the Big Ten Championship. We still are not really 'tied'.
We are tied. What you speak of are tie breakers.
while its great to win ANY game, Purdue is just bad.
And we have lots of injuries piling up...
And we have very very tough games to play yet.
Its very possible we could lose all of our remaining games.
The best team we played rolled us.
I enjoy all wins...but we need to have some perspective here too.
We didn't exactly get rolled by MSU, but whatever. As long as injuries don't pile up we should win at least 2 of the remaining 4 games...
If I had told you we would be 7-1 at this point before the season started, would you have been disappointed? We won convincingly, enjoy it.
for your positive thoughts.
Do you have a positive perspective. Purdue whilst not world beaters, do provide a strong running game. Pre game there were questions on how we would come out. Our boys answered. Give them some credit
How has no one mentioned our long-ish field goal yet? That was almost more shocking than the safety ... Let's add it to 'the good!'
Looked good on both sides of the ball and outside of a fluke play on the opening drive and a questional PI call on the last drive, probably would've shut Purdue out.
Not so sure about DG in at QB outside of select situations to keep the defense guessing, but I'm willing to trust Borges knows what he's doing.
Also, I must protest the lack of Fitzy two weeks ago. Dude was a beast today. Cutbacks, bursts, breaking tackles, he did it all.
I think Fitz really looked like he was seeing the whole field. Instead of running full tilt he watched his blockers a bit more. I think he had a mental breakthrough.
This game will give the team confidence that this season will not end up like the previous two. The defense is by far the most improve unit this year. They should continue to improve!
The offense will improve if we keep the running game going. DROB needs to run or throw the ball away if he is not confident in making the pass. We cannot average 2 interceptions against the remainder of our schedule.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the progress of the team and I think we'll win at least two if not three more games!
That was the best game they had all year defending the perimeter I thought, bodes well for the rest of the year.
Even though they gave up that long TD the rest of the game was pretty damn ineffective for Purdue.
When comparing Hoke and Hope remember that k>p
k = 7-1
p = 4-4
don't worry guys I have class on mondays and wendsdays with lewan, i'll report back on any limping, paying attention in class if for losers anyways. Also under center worked today and it made me happy.
I was pretty pleased with his play today. He has really improved from the beginning of the season and I am excited to have him over the next four years. I will be interested to see how he grades out in the UFR.
I'm coming around to the I-form stuff, except the waggle still isn't working, and I don't like our running out of it on short yardage. The sneak was good, and even the zone stretch out of the I-form on one of the first plays of the game was nice. But in short yardage I'd rather let Denard do his thang. That goal line stand gave me Illinois flashbacks, which is not Borges's fault, but still.
Who both had fantastic games, and played beyond their years. Purdue might not be Wisconsin, but they have a decent perimeter attack, and we stuffed it. Ryan and Morgan were instrumental in that.
1. Thinking about next year's option offense. Denard, Devin, Fitz, and Vince all bring their own type of big play ability. Fred Jackson says: "It's like Pat White, Vince Young, Tyrone Wheatley, and Inspector Gadget in the backfield at once, only faster."
Add Stephen Hopkins really adopting the true option fullback role, and the young talent Michigan has in Rawls and Hayes, and I think they sure to have as explosive a backfield as any team in the nation.
2. Fitz specifically. He may still be trying to put it all together, but he looks like a special talent to me. He gets to the line with a lot of momentum, has good change of direction which he uses well to set up blockers, has good burst, and his balance is phenomenal.
1. Ricky Barnum and Taylor Lewan's injuries. I gotta imagine Lewan's gonna be dinged up for the rest of the regular season. Lucky for us, he's a tough bastard. Ricky Barnum's quick exit was not so lucky. This line is razor thin and getting increasingly rickety. Even more immediate is the performance of Omaneh. He looks like a monster out there, but he also looks indecisive and well behind the pace of the rest of the offense.
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