Ha hahahahah oh Mr Pryor, when are you going to learn? Oh wait, you go to OSU!
mesmerism! presidential assassinations! circuses on fire!
Ha hahahahah oh Mr Pryor, when are you going to learn? Oh wait, you go to OSU!
And didn't even graduate
Correction, he went to OSU. You can't be too smart if you can't finish school there!
I thought he was finishing his summer classes?
that suing the NCAA means he'll have to testify about all the crap he's done. THat's even better (for us) than cooperating with the NCAA. If he actually does this then the buckeyes are screwed even worse.
He doesn't consider that he'll have to testify about why he's ineligible and that doing so sets him up for federal tax evasion charges. The IRS won't bother with news reports about 20K, but they're less likely to let tax evasion under oath go unpunished.
I can see the NCAA asking some rather fun questions in their cross examination of Pryor when he is under oath.
anything under a $10,000 purchase doesn't need to be declared but when he's pulling in $40,000 a year under the table the gov't sticks their hand out and keeps it there.
Plus, it's in the news. They don't even have to look for evidence and he's basically admitted part of it. I'm sort of surprised that prior isn't considering suing Ohio and their football program, since they would be the ones he would have been working for.
Let's face it, TP is a certified top level moron. But I highly doubt his lawyer is. If his lawyer didn't think TP could get off on this one I don't think he'd allow TP to testify in court.
Given what we know about Pryor, I would be surprised for him to even tell the truth under sworn testimony
...and Donald Trump threatened with running for the Presidency. In the end, neither would tempt fate, as it woud just uncover more dirt.
You can't successfully sue someone for defamation if what they said is true. You're treading on thin ice here, Terrelle and Larry . . .
Ha. His dreams are broken.
Suing didn't work out well for Clarett either.
to sue his way into the NFL. It's so stupid it just might work......
See Clarett v. NFL, 369 F.3d 124 (2nd Cir., 2004)
I totally forgot about Claretts lawsuit.
He's going to need a better lawyer.
I guess that 20-40k will come in handy!
"We're gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess."
sue for what?
Nothing wrong with reporting this.
As to Pryor, as an attorney, I can ssay that unless there is something fact-specific that I do not know (standatrd disclaimer), TP would have no case against the media. ESPN did nothing wrong - they had a source and they reported it. As for the NCAA, all they did was investigate.
PLease, oh please, TP, bring these lawsuits. I really would like for a court with subpoena power (and the ability to charge his lying ass with perjury if he lies in court, which he can;t help himself from doing) to preside over his whole fiasco.
Can the NCAA launch a lawsuit of some sort to ask pryor questions under oath? Seems like a good way to get some answers.
Pryor probably has a free lawyer from tOSU. Either that or it's LegalZoom.com.
This just keeps getting better.
He can sue them, but he won't win unless their statements are false.
I know there's about to be an MGoLawyer that chimes in, but doesn't he have to prove that ESPN knew that their story was false and published it anyway?
Pryor is a public figure, so he has to prove that (a) the statements were false, (b) ESPN knew (or really should have known) that they were false, and (c) ESPN had malicious intent when it published those statements.
Long story short: go home, retrieve shinebox.
Since TP is a public figure, he would not only have to prove that one or more statements were false, but that they were made with "actual malice." That phrase is a little deceiving, since it basically means that the media either knew the statements were false or consciously disregarded a substantial risk that the statements were false.
In practice, public figures almost NEVER win libel suits. There is a mountain of precedent, much of it from the Supreme Court and based on the First Amendment, which works against libel plaintiffs. Winning those cases for the defendant is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I see this as a bluff. And one that won't work. ESPN is used to the threat of lawsuits and it would never deter them from pursuing future stories.
My read on this is that the lawyer is now driving TP's bus. He's taking TP wherever the lawyer wants to go. I have no idea who this guy is or where he came from, but based on appearances that's sure what it looks like.
Yes, this is completely correct. The only time public figures have a shot in hell is if it's a "false light invasion of privacy," such as a case where a misleading headline says something like "Football Star Has AIDS" with his picture next to it, but it's an actual story about someone else. Or something like that- a little hazy trying to remember this shit from years ago. Generally, though, if you're a public figure, unless someone makes a factual statement about you that is undeniably false (such as "Terrelle Pryor Has Secret Rocket in Ass; Secret to Success" and then details that he does, in fact, have some sort of rocket in his ass, which can be easily disproved), they (almost) never win.
But I did stay at a holiday inn. All SI or ESPN needs is to quote someone on what they said and it's not libal...and libal and slander cases dont win in the usa, freedom of speech.
never, ever going to happen
Same guy said he was 100% certain 8 of the 9 additional players named in SI story would be cleared. I hope he keeps talking.
... just tweeted:
"Take this to the bank: Storm Klein's family will not be suing SI. Period."
God, I hope he sues them. Can you imagine the discovery? Everything we ever wanted to know about his cars, bank accounts, Sarniak? It would be sensational.
it would be like christmas happening every day for us. O please, oh please sue them for Libel Pryor. then you will find out that discovery is a bitch. maybe the NCAA will go easy on you for giving them this hammer to go after tsio.
This guy passed the bar?
I'm feeling better and better about my chances...
You've already shown yourself capable enough to generate an untold number of laughs on this board. I think you've practically guaranteed yourself an illustrious career as an attorney.
I appreciate the vote of confidence... here's hoping the bar examiners are swayed by cats that haz cheezburgers.
But juries will.
I'm not an attorney, but rather a business consultant. Our professions are remarkably similar and we use many of the same terms to describe them, (e.g. client, practice, partner, discovery, ...). One of the best things I ever learned was how to make a memorable presentation. The best way is to use humor, (without making pratfalls, of course).
I bought and read a book that I still recommend to my young employees called Why Business People Speak Like Idiots. It's a fast read, highly entertaining, and it contains some great suggestions for presenters. For people like you who are naturally quick witted and funny, you'll find a lot of it to be very useful.
Blue - I obviously don't know you, but from your posts I can tell you're almost certainly smarter than people I know who have passed the bar. It's basically just memorization. I think a bright grad student who didn't go to law school could pass it if he or she had eight weeks to study.
You'll be fine.
Also, nice first topic to the OP. It's something that hasn't been on the board and is topical.
I'd love to hear the case against the NCAA. It would be awesome--although I can't imagine that lawyer is going to accept payment in Buckeye jerseys and outstanding lawsuits aren't going to help him convince an NFL team to pick him up.
In another two years, we may be hearing about how the lawyer took Pryor for the last pair of gold pants he has...
This would be the entertainment equivalent of watching OJ's 'chase'. Sue TP! Maybe Brian Bosworth will lend you one of his t-shirts!
the 'roid boy above did something too few OU football players did -- he went to class and was carrying about a 3.3 at the time in the B-school. Okay, it isn't the Ross school, but a number of the profs at that time came from michigan, including the dean. the OU b-school was considered a pretty good one -- probably still is.
You'll be fine man. Sure the last thing you want is advice at this point, but I'm gonna throw this out there anyway. I found the best thing was having one constant study partner. Someone to push you when you just can't study any more and bounce questions off of to make you think on your feet. Two people was the ideal pairing, when we got 3, 4, 5 involved it devolved into conversations and strayed off of the studying. Worked pretty well, my study partner and I both passed the Texas Bar comfortably and only one point apart on the final scoring.
Do what I did:
Look around at your class and count off the number of people who consistently arrived late to class on Monday bragging about how wasted they were on the weekend; those who came to class on an infrequent basis; those who spouted nonsense in class as if it were gospel truth (they will end up as judges); and those who just plain spouted nonsense with one or another looks of bewilderment on their faces. Note that they are the curve makers who will help you succeed. Then consider that 8+ out of ten of your class will pass the Bar. Subtract the aforementioned most likely to fail and - voila - you have your confidence.
At least that's what I told myself, although it didn't always curb the anxiety.
It's like the ancient proverb says: "If you find yourself running away from zombies, you need not outrun the zombies. You need only outrun the guy next to you."
83% of people pass, and WAY more than 17% of people are idiots. I'm feeling okay about it.
And the 3D glasses!