Something for the seniors to look forward to. And I thought I had it made with Larry Page last year.
Something for the seniors to look forward to. And I thought I had it made with Larry Page last year.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming gubernatorial election. Not implying, just speculating.
I don't see how a spring commencement address could have much impact on a November election.
I'd probably say the gesture alone is something that can be cited by someone.
I don't understand this argument. How would someone cite this visit, and how would it affect the gubernatorial race? "Obama delivered the commencement address at U-M six months ago, so vote for me?"
I was just thinking that politicians can think up many ways to use it for their advantage. It isn't that he came so vote for me, it's more that they could use video clips of him saying what U of M students and recent grads can do for the State of Michigan. Every commencement speaker talks about how each student needs to go forward and do something special. With the current economic climate, there's no way Obama doesn't make mention of that, and the close ties to the auto industry, in his speech. I can just see little clips here and there, and the candidate saying "I'm Joe Schmo. President Obama wants X for Michigan, and I'm the guy to get it for you." The visual of Obama, at the Big House, the state's flagship university, #1 hospital system (healthcare spending), will be a very easy tool to use coming very shortly after commencement. I mean, commercials have already started, so the 6 months thing doesn't really matter.
That would be completely classless. Doing so would probably engender more resentment in the audience than anything, as many ideological supporters would find it in poor taste as well as the people who disagree to begin with.
When Clinton came back in 07, 'twas during Hillary's campaign to win the Democratic nomination ... and there were these abortion protesters. Whom I could rant about for a while... but won't. Let's just say, their demise will result in a net gain for human civilization.
Anyway, Bill couldn't have been more non-political and the idiots ended up with egg on their face.
Yeah, I'm not saying that it would, just that it could. This is a kind of discussion that need not take place here, so we can leave it at that. For the record, I think that this is huge for the University, regardless of politics. From MSU rubbing Condi in our faces a few years back, I guess it doesn't get bigger than the sitting POTUS.
You're being obtuse.
than the guy who invented Spell Check... noooooo way!
(though Bo did get his honorary that year...)
It sounds like from some prior posts that you live in the New Orleans area?
My husband and I are heading there next Thursday for 5 nights. We'll stay the first 3 in New Orleans (we know what to do and where to stay because we've been there several times before). But, we are thinking of resting our livers for the final 2 nights (sorta, not totally, just not the full-blown thing we do on Bourbon Street).
Any suggestions on where we should go / stay (B&B?) / eat? Avery Island? Lafayette? Baton Rouge? We're 50ish but pretend we are 30 year-olds. We love good food, dive bars, want to see the interesting sights near New Orleans that we haven't been to before.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
If you can make it to New Orleans try staying on the West Bank as its called. See if there are any open hotels in Gretna or Harvey (suburbs of New Orleans). They might all be booked but the party is still going from last Sunday.
I would have preferred a president. But whatever. Totally not bitter.
They need to record that in HD and use his "Go Blue" in all future commercials.
How sad is it that when the President of the United States comes to campus that you would actually get negged for being excited about it?
Dude, dont pay attention to the point system. Mgoblog is just like anything else in life, people will hate on you if you dont agree with them, or what they have to say. Fuck it, just express your opinion openly, and tell the haters to suck a fatty.
That's pretty sweet. That's two presidents within 5 years. I remember that when I first got to U of M people complained about the quality of the graduation speakers but they have really stepped up their game in recent years.
Thats for my graduation!
High five, me too.
For my graduation, we had Christiane Amanpour for the general graduation speaker, and Larry Page for the engineering graduation speaker. Great selection; very pleased with speeches and quality of speakers.
I can never remember the guy's name, but the 2004 speaker looked just like Santa Clause. I was so bummed that we got a nobody speaker (he had created 'Automobile' magazine, I think). He started by reading from an annoyed letter to the Daily (everyone pointed out the writer in the audiance) and admitting he also had no idea why he was selected. He then launched into one of the best speeches I've ever heard--all about the tough lessons he had learned and how he had used them well. He got a standing ovation if I remember correctly.
awesome! i only wish he was coming next year for mine. oh well, i'll just have to hold out for Kim Jung-il. Edit: sarcasm on the second half of that. not on the first.
Sadly, my speaker wasn't quite so exciting, so I skipped the Big House graduation in 05.
Howeva, my little brother is graduating this year, so I'll get to attend!
Wow what an upgrade from the worst speaker ever larry page to the pres himself.
I think Obama prefers this side of the Notre Dame-Michigan rivalry.
(Redacted... Probably too close to committing the MGoCardinalSin.)
That's kind of sad that you have to do that when every poster who likes him can say how awesome they think it is. I'm a big fan of the "one rule" and I could care less either way who the speaker is, but it's kind of ridiculous that you can't say what you want to about it. Saying that you don't like him or aren't a fan of this isn't a political statement, but guaranteed anyone who said it will be negged like crazy for saying it (just like I probably will be for saying this).
From what I see, no one has made any political comments about him speaking, they've just been showing their excitement about Obama coming to speak at UM. Having any sitting President as a commencement speaker is a big deal. If Bush had come to speak, the reaction might have been different, but negative sentiment would still not belong on the MGoBoard.
That's ridiculous. Why exactly would "negative sentiment" not belong here? If someone thinks that the whole idea of commencement speakers as being at all relevant and important is stupid, that's negative sentiment and most certainly not a political statement, and most assuredly does belong on the MGoBoard.
But assuming that people do think there is relevance to the topic, one would have to have a political leaning or be completely irrational to speak negatively about having THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS PERSON IN THE WORLD as the commencement speaker. Negged either way
EDIT - My entire point is that I think the entire commencement speaker idea is stupid, no matter who it is. Apparently some of you want to make that into a political statement, and that's fine, but the fact of the matter is that it wasn't and wasn't intended to be. It was simply a comment on the event itself. I would have said the same thing no matter who the speaker is, but since we don't have a thread about who the speaker isn't or a thread about the topic of speakers in general, I commented here.
So, you think commencement speakers are irrelevant and stupid?
But I don't want to get the horns.
(wrong movie for Clarence, I know)
Clarence, if you haven't noticed, his comment didn't get negged, nor did your original one. You're getting negged now for making an issue where literally none existed - NOBODY got negged or ripped on, or anything for their point of view. You're getting shit now for making it an issue.
Ummm... yeah... might want to look at the time that the comment was made and then maybe consider what the pos/neg count was at that time. Just a thought. Your post isn't exactly timely to actually comment on the same matter that I was commenting on at the time. At the time that I made my comments on this he had a good number of "negs"; thus I made the observation that I did. You do realize that the negs/pos change over time, right?
but George HW Bush spoke in 91.
GWB spoke in my hometown during undergrad. I went to see him speak because like it or not, he was the most influential person in the world at the time.
/neither a republican nor a democrat.
"/neither a republican nor a democrat."
Same here, and I saw GWB speak once as well. I was struck by the fact that he wasn't nearly as bad of a speaker as he appeared to be when I saw him on television. Gave the whole speech without notes or a teleprompter and never fumbled around at all. I was really surprised by that.
EDIT - I can't even begin to say how hilarious I think it is that some of you are negging this post. There is NOTHING that could possibly be controversial or even disagreeable in what I've written here considering that it's a simple observation of my own experience. Too funny...
I agree that there is no possible way to take anything negative from your post.
I plus'd most of your comments above, except when you said that a commencement speaker is irrelevant. It is pretty sad.
Haha, thanks. I realize that my position on the importance of speakers is an outlier. I'm cool with that.
I bet he feels threatened by Zoltan's emperorship. Sorry bud, my allegiance lies with the punter before the president, it's nothing personal.
Hopefully this will be a golden opportunity to affect meaningful change in our community.
My dream scenario involves his speech focusing on the need to eliminate the scourge that is RAWK MUZIK at college football games.
hoping for change ... back to winning teams and no rawk musik. Those have to be progressive ideals, right?
(So old my class had Bush Sr.)
I think it's cool beans
My housemate is rocking the benediction. He's super nervous now
I still preferred Bill Clinton for my graduation back in 2007, but I may need to try to find a ticket to this event now.
Impact on recruiting?
Looking forward to a chart...
ARGH why can't he wait a year (maybe 2 not sure)?!!
How bad were previous commencement speakers? Mine was Cathy Guisewite...from the Cathy cartoon strips. One reason why I didn't even go...
Really? The Cathy cartoon creator? That's so...awful. Did she talk about clothes and crappy comic strips? She's an expert on both, I'd imagine.
WAY better than Obama in my opinion.