Michigan takes on Cleveland St tonight at Crisler 8pm ESPN2HD and with a win will be back to the Garden. I like this team could be very lethal.
Michigan 84
Cle St 60
PS: Anyone catch this week's Inside Michigan Football episode was it good?
We win by over 40 = we have the greatest team EVER
We win by 10- 40 = we are good but not THAT good, need better focus and over half the board will find something to complain about
We win by less than 10 = We have coaching issues and over half the board will find something to complain about
We lose = Someone will call for a coaching change, 3/4 of the board will find something to complain about and the other 1/4 will try and convice everybody it's actually a GOOD thing we lost

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Hahaha..Spot on.
"For the last 28 years, I've spent my life in the greatest of places, the University of Michigan." -Lloyd Carr
Are you talking about basketball or football?
More importantly, does it matter?
then Borges really needs to go!
"I'm not a vegetarian b/c I love animals. I'm a vegetarian b/c I hate plants"
Any result: MSU fans will comment on our out-of-conference schedule being subpar
is my prediction.
102-60
Phil Brabbs FTW
I loved how the first two games Michigan let them hang around early and then just dropped bombs.
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Go Blue!
Whether you have a choice in the matter or not, letting a superior opponent set the pace and trying to match that pace is never a good idea and just instills a false sense of competitiveness in the inferior team...
There was this one guy who was pretty good at letting the opponent set the pace early and expend their energy thinking they had a shot:

Not saying this is applicable to basketball per se, but any oppotunity to post a pic of THE GREATEST is an oppotunity I'll take.
The swag is back.
It's not like we let them hang around. Most team in the upper levels of D-2 and all levels of D-1 have high quality players. Plus, IUPUI shot the shit out of the 3-ball early on.
Hell, Alaska Anchorage beat Michigan the season we won the title -'89. Glen Rice also gve Palin his electoral vote!
The difference in this Michigan team is the depth as noted many times on this blog. This team could have an "off" night and still win many games because so many guys can score!
Michigan 84
Cleveland St. 52
Even if Clev. St. isn't as good as IUPUI, the score may be closer than yesterday simply due to playing on back to back days.
I predict a win.
Clev St is playing back to back days too and they actually played in OVERTIME yesterday. Plus I don't know if you watched last nights game, but IUPUI couldn't miss in the first half, and they played more normal in the second half.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
But I'd counter with the fact that Michigan shot an unusually high % from the field - 60% overall and 62% from 3. That's unlikely to stay that high especially on back-to-back nights. I also thought IUPUI shot a high percentage in part due to poor defensive rotation on Michigan's part that got ironed out a bit as the game went on. Considering the youth on the team it's entirely possible they will have defensive issues. I think talent etc. take over and they win handily, but a 40 point blowout may not be in the cards.
Then again if Clev. St. doesn't have good depth they may get run out of the gym. Having a deep bench for once will allow M to keep guys fresh which should allow them to score in transition and hit their 3's more consistently in the second halves of games.
Coincidentally enough, I was only able to watch the first half yesterday. IUPUI was definitely hitting their shots.
Tonight could easily be a blowout win just like yesterday, but if we only win by, say, 20, I wont be overly surprised. Hope I'm wrong.
but, we have beat Slippery Rock and IUPUI, not exactly the cream of college basketball. The season really begins when we host NC State. After we win that one, we can plan the parade route.
A few years ago we were in overtime with Savannah St. A team we would beat by 40 now. We are doing exactly what needs to be done; crushing opponents that we should crush. It's been a long time since M bball has been able to do that.
I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.
IUPUI is a good win considering how bad we beat them. They are a very well coached team too. Kind of sucks they were missing their best player though.
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Beating PITT and winning the pre-season NIT should be good gages to where the team is as well.
Look at the FG% and the total points we have been putting up so far this year. Look over our results from the last couple years. We never score like we are this year, even against our early season baby seals. I was skeptical of our preseason ranking, but consider the Kool Aid drunk. This team is for real.
I live in Cleveland now and all these Buckeyes are hoping we lose. I expect a comfortable victory, somewhere in the 15-20 point range.
Ill guess 82-64 unless you like odd numbers...83-65
I think it will be relatively close until midway through the second half, then Michigan pulls away for a 14 point win.
GRIII cools off from 3 point range and only gets about 12, but Trey cleans up the turonvers, Stauskas shoots the lights out (15+ pts) and McGary announces his presence with a breakout game.
"When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing." - Bo Schembechler
CSU is traditionally a strong mid major, beat #7 Vandy in Nashville last year, locks it down defensively. Michigan wins fairly easily, but not as easily as the last couple contests.
UM 68, CSU 51
The swag is back.
lost 4 starters from last year. They will regress from last year. Michigan should win this one in a blowout by at least 25 pts.
Granted I don't follow them that closely, but losing starters in CBB is often not a big deal. Case in point, Kentucky loses 5 starters every year. Now in no way am I comparing CSU to Kentucky, but at least to the naked eye, returning starters isn't as big of an indicator of success in CBB than it is in CFB.
The swag is back.
but for a mid major like CSU, that's a big deal. Look what happened to Butler, they lost a lot after two consecutive runs to NC. They missed the NCAA tourney and was medicore. It is very rare that a mid major has a great player waiting in the wings or recruited top 25 players.
In other words, I expect Michigan to win big. They have too much talent to only beat them by 10-15 pts. If they want to live up to the billing, they better beat CSU by 25 or more especially when they lost just about everybody.
Last year, they weren't very good on offense and was just medicore on defense. How can you expect the game to be close when they lose 4 starters from a team who isn't all that good to begin with?
Fair point, but the 2011 Butler national runner-ups lost 2 starters from the 2010 team that also was national runner up. And one of those was a NBA 1st round draft pick, Gordon Heyward.
They plugged and played pretty well although last year wasn't so good, obviously.
The swag is back.
like Mack and Nored to provide quality minutes whether if it's on offense or defense. Once the major contribitors are gone, regression is the norm for mid-major. This year, I expect Butler to bounce back because they got Roteni Clarke who is considered to be the best shooter in the country eligible after transferring from Arkansas.
PAIN
(In the form of them losing, of course)
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get into a land war with Asia. But only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!
This one will likely be closer than people think. By way of example, KenPom has IUPUI ranked 237. Cleveland State is 94. Michigan should still win, but the level of competition is steadily increasing.
MSG will really be a challenge as Pitt and K.State are ranked 13 and 15 respectively by KenPom.
Go Blue!
I do not have enough points to start a new thread and this may not be worthy of a new thread anyway.
Should we assume that Robinson is gone after this year? He has the body and the game to be a terrific small forward at the next level. If he continues to improve, he will be a first round pick in this year's weak draft.
Way to early to worry about that. There is a good chance, but on the positive side he may not have quite the money incentive that other players would have considering Big Dog (hopefully) still has $$ from his NBA days. Let's enjoy his growth and worry about that in April after win with the championship :)
Based on a small sample size, sure. Let the season play out though, who knows how he'll handle conference play, better opponents, etc. I plan on enjoying this year. If Burke, THIII, GRIII all head to the NBA next year, it will most likely have been a special, Kentucky-like season anyways.
The swag is back.
2 games against inferior opponents tells us very little. However, I and many others have been under the impression that GRIII has the best chance to be the first one and done here in a long time (Jamal Crawford was the last one I think...). However, while I've been extremely impressed with him thus far, his ball handling skills are definitely in need of a little improvement before he makes the jump to the pros. He gets scared and either picks it up or refuses to dribble when in traffic inside the arc, and needs to cut down on carrying the ball before he makes his move outside the three. If he doesn't fix those issues, I think it may be enough to drop him out out of the 1st round and if that's what the draft board tells him, I don't think he leaves. Then again, 2 games is misleading and maybe he's really the 2nd best dribbler on the team, but who knows.
Does anyone have a link?
Wolverines ... six hundred and forty-seven ... Cleveland state
... errrr nineteen. And it'd finally be a close game. /DaBears
MICH 91
ohio 49
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